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Whatever
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No one 'meated' me in California!
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Alfau
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)




Thought this might help the afflicted .
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Buellathebuzzer
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Let's remember that Homophobia is a vernacular term popularized by the gay community and their supporters to describe someone who has extreme dislike for homosexuals. It is NOT a psychiatric condition like arachnophobia.

Whatever: I have no doubt that you understand a lot about HIV, but your arguments are so focused on HIV in the US and judgments based on those statistics and totally ignores the fact that in Africa and Asia the primary vector for infection is heterosexual sex. There is little or no reason why transmission in the US couldn't or wouldn't move into the heterosexual community.

I love Archer. I also love butt sex jokes.
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Buellathebuzzer
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BTW: is there a prize for starting the most viral thread of the week?
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 06:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"There is little or no reason why transmission in the US couldn't or wouldn't move into the heterosexual community."

The big one is that the heterosexual community isn't as promiscuous as the homosexual community. Women generally put the brake on in that group. Homosexual men are still men, and men like to have sex. Men are sluts. If women were as slutty as men are, I think you'd see HIV infection rates in heterosexuals right on par with homosexual men.

Another reason, as several have stated, is that the receiver of bodily fluid is more likely to contract HIV than the giver. A heterosexual man has a low chance of being exposed. Heterosexual women have a greater chance, but are less likely to engage in risky sexual behavior than men are.

There may be other factors, but those two jump out at me.

Infections in heterosexual women and children in Africa is largely the result of rape.

Google africa aids rape. It's appalling.

(Message edited by hootowl on January 18, 2012)
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the fact that in Africa and Asia the primary vector for infection is heterosexual sex

It probably doesn't help that for some perverted reason many in Africa seem to believe in a thing called the "virgin cure" where raping a virgin girl is supposed to cure you of STDs. Pretty sick stuff. http://www.scienceinafrica.co.za/2002/april/virgin .htm
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Whatever
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did not bring up the subject of AIDS in Africa because it does not have anything to do with your original post. I am well aware of the AIDS epidemic in Africa having been to that continent twice. I am also well aware of the epidemic of AIDS in infants and children that have the disease transmitted during birth. Unfortunately it is something that many people who associate AIDS with being gay over look. Too bad you make presumptions about my knowledge of the epidemic based on what your stereotype of me is. I had a good friend get in a bus accident in Africa in the late 1980's, around the time I went to Kenya, who was terrified he may have contracted the disease because he was more than willing to jump in and help the accident victims. Be very careful what you assume a person may or may not know.

(Message edited by Whatever on January 18, 2012)
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Whatever
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I also have a problem with anyone who thinks that because a man has sex with another man means that they do not use protection or are automatically promiscious.

This may have been the case in the 1970's and the early 1980's... but I assure you it is not the case with the gay men I know today. Many of those men are middle aged and were reckless when younger but have completley changed their ways after losing very close friends and family.
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Mtjm2
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Char, was that time ,research and development ?

Risky life styles are risky .
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Spatten1
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So, would you ride with a guy if you knew he was gay?

Not if he was a crappy rider or a jerk. If he can ride and is a nice guy, sure, why not?
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Char, who are you talking to? If it is me,

1. Don't presume to know what I think of you or think I know about you or what you know. It sounds like you'd be wrong. I certainly never implied that I knew any of that.

2. I did not say that two men who have sex with each other are promiscuous, that's just what you appear to have heard. I was speaking of groups in general, and taken as a whole, what I said was accurate.

3. Your middle aged gay friends may not be promiscuous. No argument there. Most middle aged men aren't. However, young men, gay or straight, are indeed, as a group, promiscuous. But gay men don't have women restraining their sex lives. The infection rates bear this out.
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Whatever
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hoot... I was talking to the OP... and then people in general... at least I thought I was...

So, no, I was not specifically aiming my comments at you, but you apparently know a lot of young, gay guys... what is up with that?
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 08:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know several, though none of them young. Young hip people don't generally want to hang around with people as old or as boring as I am.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The stats in Broward county Fl do not correlate to the assertion of not having many partners or having safe what ever.
The age group is younger and must feel virus proof.
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Slaughter
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OK so I still have to ask - how many riders here are at risk of contracting aids because they are riding with a gay rider in their group (whether they know it or not)
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Buellriderx
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hehehe A bunch of middle to older age guys discussing gay guys. This is priceless
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Slaughter
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 11:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I dunno - bikers... aren't they a bunch of masculine manly men doing manly things among masculine manly men? No girls allowed?

Kinda like football, sweaty men in tights... getting all rough and grabby with each other. After the foreplay, they shower together...

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Skinstains
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fahren, see my first post in this thread.

Whatever, you never asked me to meat you...

I wouldn't ride with this guy...





Butt I would've certainly Hung out with him !

I wouldn't ride with this chick...




Butt I would've definately been down with hanging out with her.



(Message edited by skinstains on January 18, 2012)
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Skinstains
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would've rode with, Hung with, fought with, drank with, smoked with and probably anything else'd with her too ! Hubba hubba...

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Skinstains
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 12:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Mark, I'll be in Daytona for the races and you are more than welcome to hang out with me there, but, I will Knot ride there with you. I heard somewhere that all gay men have aids (except the ones in Arica) and they all caught it by riding motorcycles together. I guess they don't have motorcycles in Africa ? Those lucky Africans!
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Fahren
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Skin.
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Whatever
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Someone is going to photo shop that Liberace photo...
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2012 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For those of you that are still having problems with this issue, here's a few helpful tips.


The International Rules of Manhood:

1: Under no circumstances may two men share an umbrella.

2: It is OK for a man to cry ONLY under the following circumstances:
(a) When a heroic dog dies to save its master.
(b) The moment Angelina Jolie starts unbuttoning her blouse.
(c) After wrecking your boss's car.
(d) One hour, 12 minutes, 37 seconds into "The Crying Game".
(e) When she is using her teeth.

3: Any Man who brings a camera to a bachelor party may be legally killed and eaten by his buddies.

4: Unless he murdered someone in your family, you must bail a friend out of jail within 12 hours.

5: If you've known a guy for more than 24 hours, his sister is off limits forever unless you actually marry her.

6: Moaning about the brand of free beer in a buddy's fridge is forbidden. However complain at will if the temperature is unsuitable.

7: No man shall ever be required to buy a birthday present for another man. In fact, even remembering your buddy's birthday is strictly optional. At that point, you must celebrate at a strip bar of the birthday boy's choice.

8: On a road trip, the strongest bladder determines pit stops, not the weakest.

9: When stumbling upon other guys watching a sporting event, you may ask the score of the game in progress, but you may never ask who's playing.

10: You may flatulate in front of a woman only after you have brought her to climax. If you trap her head under the covers for the purpose of flatulent entertainment, she's officially your girlfriend.

11: It is permissible to drink a fruity alcohol drink only when you're sunning on a tropical beach... and it's delivered by a topless model and only when it's free.

12: Only in situations of moral and/or physical peril are you allowed to kick another guy in the nuts.

13: Unless you're in prison, never fight naked.

14: Friends don't let friends wear Speedos. Ever. Issue closed.

15: If a man's fly is down, that's his problem, you didn't see anything.

16: Women who claim they "love to watch sports" must be treated as spies until they demonstrate knowledge of the game and the ability to drink as much as the other sports watchers.

17: A man in the company of a hot, suggestively dressed woman must remain sober enough to fight.

18: Never hesitate to reach for the last beer or the last slice of pizza, but not both, that's just greedy.

19: If you compliment a guy on his six-pack, you'd better be talking about his choice of beer.

20: Never join your girlfriend or wife in discussing a friend of yours, except if she's withholding sex pending your response.

21: Phrases that may NOT be uttered to another man while lifting weights:
a) Yeah, Baby, Push it!
b) C'mon, give me one more! Harder!
c) Another set and we can hit the showers!

22: Never talk to a man in a bathroom unless you are on equal footing: i.e., both urinating, both waiting in line, etc. For all other situations, an almost imperceptible nod is all the conversation you need.

23: Never allow a telephone conversation with a woman to go on longer than you are able to have sex with her. Keep a stopwatch by the phone. Hang up if necessary.

24: The morning after you and a girl who was formerly "just a friend" have carnal, drunken monkey sex, the fact that you're feeling weird and guilty is no reason for you not to nail each other again before the discussion occurs about what a big mistake it was.

25: It is acceptable for you to drive her car. It is not acceptable for her to drive yours.

26: Thou shalt not buy a car in the colors of brown, pink, lime green, orange or sky blue.

27: The girl who replies to the question "What do you want for Christmas?" with "If you loved me, you'd know what I want!" gets an Xbox. End of story.

28: There is no reason for guys to watch Ice Skating or Men's Gymnastics. Ever. We've all heard about people having guts or balls. But do you really know the difference between them? In an effort to keep you informed, the definition of each is listed below:
"GUTS" is arriving home late after a night out with the guys, being assaulted by your wife with a broom, and having the guts to say, "are you still cleaning or are you flying somewhere?"
"BALLS" is coming home late after a night out with the guys smelling of perfume and beer, lipstick on your collar, slapping your wife on the ass and having the balls to say, "You're next!"

I hope this clears up any confusion,
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