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Slaughter
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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It's not an easy decision to make, but it was either going to be him or my son. And it wasn't going to be my son. There's nothing more dangerous than a woman with a child.




Bravo!

http://abcnews.go.com/US/okla-woman-shoots-kills-i ntruder911-operators-shoot/story?id=15285605
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Blackm2
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I read that this morning, pretty awesome.
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Kyrocket
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good for her, she just saved the tax payers of Oklahoma a ton of money and someone else the heartache of getting their stuff stolen by the no good thief.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"There is nothing more dangerous than a mother with a child"

I love that line!

(Message edited by wolfridgerider on January 04, 2012)
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 02:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hooray for gun control. She hit the bastard.
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Slaughter
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gun control is first round on target.
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Geforce
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good riddance to the filth she put down. I hope her luck changes soon, looks like she could use it after her husband died and the New Years incident.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hell yeah!

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Weaponxbs
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 06:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And she scared the other one enough to turn himself in.

Mess with me ALL you want. . . . .Don't even think of messin with my child ! !
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Rotzaruck
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On the phone for 21 minutes with 911. Good thing she was prepared and able!
Still, stupid people think the government can take care of them.
I'm proud of that girl!
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

She did what she had to, thank God she was prepaired. The sad thing is that even if it's justified, killing somebody can really mess with your mind. Hope she can deal with it. This reminds me, time to get some more range time in with my daughter.
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Ltbuell
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

..+1 to what everyone else has said."Gun control is being able to hit your target".In some states(unfortunately)they'd be going after her for having a gun(thank you anti-gun fruit cakes)and relatives/family members would sue her and do the whiny slobbering story of "he was a really good person blah,blah,blah.." lines of bs...piss on 'em all.Hooray for her and the 911 dispatcher for keeping the girl cool.Got rid of that pos the least expensive way!!!!
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

'I can't tell you you can but you do what you have to to protect your baby'

BOOOOOOM!!!!!!!

End of his story...
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Luckily, the po-po didn't show up and ruin the party.

I guess when they heard that this lovely and plucky young mother was fully armed, they realized that there was no need.

Saved the State of Oklahoma a small fortune, and I am sure the victim's buddy will think twice before breaking into another citizens home. Or not.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

She's better than just ok in my book.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

She will probably be sued by the victim's family.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"She will probably be sued by the victim's family."
Did she yell out a verbal warning or a give warning shot? Seems like it would be obvious that she would have.
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Ulyranger
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

She should be fine legally, every State recognizes the "castle doctrine" though to differing degrees. Basically it means that one must attempt to retreat from a threat before utilizing deadly physical force EXCEPT in one's domicile. Where one has a reasonable expectation of being safe and should NOT have to flee that safety in the face of danger. The Criminal Law is generally clear on this principle. Civil law can and may be different though, so yeah, she may indeed be party to a wrongful death suit. In light of the circumstances, multiple intruders, young mother/widow with baby, in the safety of her home, called the authorities for assistance, etc. I would hope any decision would be in her favor or else our country really has fallen into the rabbit hole.

Nothing more fearsome in nature than a mother with her offspring. Good for her and hopefully the message is heeded by those who dare invade someone else's home....
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Funny thing about guns and law suits. I was at the range this morning. One of my friends had his lawyer show up for the first time with a new gun. Apparently they have had "gun discussions" in the past. So the lawyer is asking for some basic training from my friend. I got done and hung in the lobby with some others (we usually hit lunch after the range on Thursdays). So my buddy teaching the lawyer comes out and says, lets get the heck out of hear. He was really kind of spooked about teaching his lawyer to shoot, saying there's no telling how long that could follow him. I can see his point.

She's better than just ok in my book.

That would be OK as in Okrahoma.

She did what she had to do. Good for her! I hope she can deal with the mental aftermath. Situations like that can really mess with you. If anything she should be able to sue the surviving intruder for the suffering caused to her and her child.

BTW... Merry Christmas!
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I hope she can deal with the mental aftermath"

Yes. Killing someone is no small thing, even if you were only defending your self. It's going to leave a mark. Having some bastard break into her house and threaten her with a knife isn't the end of the torment she will suffer. I wish her a speedy recovery.



(Message edited by hootowl on January 05, 2012)
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just heard that the second guy is being charged with "accomplice murder". I didn't know they could do that.
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86129squids
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wheee!!!

POP goes the weasel...

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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep. Someone died as a direct result of his criminal activity. He's on the hook.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep. Someone died as a direct result of his criminal activity. He's on the hook.

Not sure it would work that way in the Republic of Cook County. (That would be Chicago for you out of towners.)
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2734
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"On the phone for 21 minutes with 911. Good thing she was prepared and able!
Still, stupid people think the government can take care of them."

21 minutes on the phone. I wonder how long until a cruiser actually made the scene....

Not good, not good at all

I'll bet there is more to the story and it hasnt come out yet.
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Etennuly
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This story brought a tear to my eye. Justice, plain, simple, swift, and correctly done. The good guys get to win one!

It was great to see a gun owner who knew, with confidence, how to handle the weapon. She knew what would happen when it was aimed and the trigger squeezed.

I should only hope my wife could do the same.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hearing the 911 tape she was amazingly collected, at least she sounded collected. When you get out in the country the police can be over an hour away. Even in a city they are most likely going to only show up for the clean up.
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Gregtonn
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sifo,
Not sure about Obamaville, but in most places if someone is killed as a result of a crime you participated in you can be charged with murder.

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Kenney83
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

She will probably be sued by the victim's family.


I am sure with a good lawyer she could sue there family for the emotional stress she will have from having to kill him. I hope some bleeding hart liberal doesn't try and mess with her. Good on her!!!
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Obamaville isn't most places. IL is the only state that still has no concealed carry provision what so ever. Crook county has made it very difficult to buy a gun. First you must get approved training from a qualified range that aren't that will never be allowed to open their doors.

Even in DuPage county where I live it's tough to open a range. We have a range that just opened close to my home. Great news, but it was a long time coming. Literally years! That's a long time to have a huge amount of capital tied up. Even the name the chose caused problems. Imagine a gun shop not being allowed to call themselves "Gun World". Between the PC police and the EPA I'm amazed they finally opened their doors. The good news for them now is that they have very little competition in the area. It's little wonder that some of the folks I shoot with travel from Crook county to do it. I do my best to never cross their border with my gun bag in my car. I've heard stories of guns being illegally confiscated in car searches. Sure you can fight in court, but unless the gun is very expensive, it's cheaper to just replace it and they know that. They just want the guns "off the streets" even if they are only taking away guns from the legal owners.

Damn, now you have me ranting!
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