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Mr_grumpy
| | Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2012 - 05:20 pm: | 
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500w halogens & motion sensors. |
Britchri10
| | Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2012 - 05:23 pm: |
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Big dog (preferably a black one), long leash & an IR camera set up.
Chris C |
Ourdee
| | Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2012 - 07:11 pm: |
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Richard Kuklinski |
Whatever
| | Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2012 - 07:54 pm: |
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Well then come out with a loaded gun. I do not like thieves and liars, no matter how old they are. |
Ratbuell
| | Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2012 - 07:59 pm: |
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The only problem is, if they've already decided to be a thief and a liar...killer isn't far behind.
It's a roleplaying game to them. |
Cyclonedon
| | Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2012 - 08:19 pm: |
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12 gauge shotgun loaded with rock salt. That will give them a burning sensation that they won't soon forget! |
Thumper74
| | Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2012 - 10:21 pm: |
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I've got a pit mix, sounds and looks ferocious, plus three other dogs.
We've got the floodlight... All it does is give them the light to do whatever they're up to that night. I've got a couple 12 ga shotguns and a Tippman 98. I was recently made aware of pepper paint balls, but they're $3/rd.
Iamike, I'm not giving these kids 'grief'. They're breaking into cars and vandalizing property. Whatever grief they get, is self inflicted. We're not yelling at them for cutting across the yard... Last summer one was driving golf balls into the parked cars.
Ratbuell, it could be assault on a minor in Ohio. I can't use lethal force to defend property, nor do I want to. However, if I confronted them and they got aggressive, I would be entirely justified as three fourteen year old delinquents could easily overpower an adult. The paintball idea isn't terrible, I could probably do it 'anonymously'.
(Message edited by Thumper74 on January 01, 2012) |
Just_ziptab
| | Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2012 - 11:09 pm: |
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Oh hell,just give them some of this.
(I removed the link,but it was a rick roll video that takes many clicks to close)
(Message edited by just_ziptab on January 01, 2012) |
Ratbuell
| | Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2012 - 11:26 pm: |
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I'm not talking "the floodlight"...I'm talking jailhouse searchlight-levels of lighting.
Again - enough light won't give them "light to see what they're doing"...it'll get EVERYbody's attention on the street. Especially if coupled with some sort of siren.
None of this stuff is expensive. Pain in the ass, sure...but cheap enough, easy to install, and easily UN-installed once they either grow up or learn their lesson. Radio Shack is your friend. |
Rah7777777
| | Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2012 - 11:44 pm: |
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If you do a camera system, make sure it's a higher TVL rating. I recently bought a Samsung system that has 600 TVL for the cameras.
All the ones you will find at most local stores are only 480 maybe 500 TVL. Of course of you have big bucks, get an HD unit, but that's a grand easy for a 4-channel.
The night vision part isn't that great, but daylight it's pretty good.
Get some 100watt floodlights and put them on motion lights around the house. But hurry, they're about to be impossible to buy.
Good luck! If it was me I'd be sleeping on my roof with night vision goggles and a paintball gun!
( and real gun in case stuff gets real hairy) |
Rah7777777
| | Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2012 - 11:50 pm: |
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Oh and a few trip wires around concrete. Hopefully they'll trip and get knocked out by the curb :-) |
Pmjolly
| | Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2012 - 11:56 pm: |
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@ziptab OK. I get it. You got me. I did not stay on the page long enough to click through all the pop ups to turn it off. I went into panic mode. I took evasive maneuvers to get it turned off. Task manager showed that page running three times simultaneously. I thought my browser had been hijacked. I was doing all I could to turn it off. That's why I posted the warning to others. I'm glad it was not malicious, and only a joke. |
Thumper74
| | Posted on Monday, January 02, 2012 - 01:39 am: |
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The roof thing isn't a terrible idea. Rah, why would floodlights be impossible buy? |
Froggy
| | Posted on Monday, January 02, 2012 - 02:10 am: |
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100W incandescent bulbs are no longer legal to manufacture or import, so anything still on the shelves is all that is left. Lower wattage bulbs will be getting phased out over the next few years. |
Buellriderx
| | Posted on Monday, January 02, 2012 - 02:29 am: |
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they've already decided to be a thief and a liar
Don't mean to thread jack but have you never stolen anything? Or told a lie? If you have then you're on your way to be a killer.} |
Ratbuell
| | Posted on Monday, January 02, 2012 - 09:32 am: |
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I've never made a habit (and that's what this is, apparently) of vandalizing someone's home, or hard-earned property, no. Never even done it once, actually (unless you want to count some TP in a tree).
And...I own guns. I guess I should lock myself up so I don't go on a spree. |
Mr_grumpy
| | Posted on Monday, January 02, 2012 - 10:06 am: |
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If there's a vantage point you can conceal yourself in in view of your house & the park, I'd pack the car on a friday evening & drive away as if going somewhere for the weekend. then sneak back with the video camera paintball gun & all.
Their lawyer will scream entrapment but trespassing is trespassing in my book.
PS, I've never been an angel. |
Rick_a
| | Posted on Monday, January 02, 2012 - 10:40 am: |
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A few paintball rounds to the face may keep them away for a while.
I was no angel. Actually a bit of a terror in my pre-teens, but I never harmed anyone's personal property or made a pest of myself...mostly just good clean fun...except for that one time...
The only property I trespassed on was a neighbor with a delicious granny smith apple tree, and another with plums. Didn't want to see all that fruit go to waste, see?
There's a lot of teenage middle-class suburbanite kids around here that wanna-be thugs. They are irritating just to see loitering around and vandalizing kids areas. My stepson has become one of these "cool" kids which just has me
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Etennuly
| | Posted on Monday, January 02, 2012 - 10:40 am: |
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Tampa was a real problematic place to utilize any of the above ideas other than lights and sirens(but after a while those just piss off the neighbors to where they would break them for you).
Dogs, and pets in general(except any relation to a Pit Bull), are held in higher esteem there than people. If you kill a neighbor over a long running dispute you will get a few months in jail. If you house a dog outside in the perpetual heat you can spend a year in jail for animal abuse.
Punks are difficult to defeat legally.
An older deputy told me if I was to get a hold of one of them, and have a proper meeting behind a wood shed with him, nothing would come of it due to these kids being clumsy and often falling while being arrested . But, I figured that would bring more retaliation than resolution.
I like country living. What never happened in the dark.....never happened. A long dark driveway usually scares them away, especially when they meet my dogs half way down. |
Mr_grumpy
| | Posted on Monday, January 02, 2012 - 12:56 pm: |
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I'd also put the christmas lights back up but in a "badly repaired" state.
"OMG I had no idea they'd come back again, the insulation must have come loose or something"
Electric cattle fence is fun too, zzzzzapp.
Related digression.
A gang of us were on the way home from a party one night in my car when nature called,
one guy pee'd so hard it passed through the hedge at the side of the road & onto the wire in the adjacent field.
I can still hear his agonised yelps amidst gales of laughter, & he still gets the mickey taken about it over 30 years on. |
86129squids
| | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 03:10 pm: |
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I've been hoping some BW LEO's might chime in on this thread- here's my update.
Happened to run into a local LEO at the store down the street yesterday afternoon, spoke with him briefly about the pill poppin/dope smoking punks- he said he knew there had been several complaints about them, but couldn't do anything unless he caught them in the act- he then said he'd drive through a few more times throughout the evening... I kept an eye out, and not *one* cop car drove by as darkness fell, even though the punks had been congregating for a while by then. I'm kinda chapped about being lied to...
Plus, my neighbor's kid, the one I've held hope about having better judgement, was hanging with them yesterday too- his dad drove by and asked me to "watch after them" as he's out of town today and tonite- not happy about that situation either. Knowing the two of them, I'd hate to have his kid caught up with the other punks...
Spoke with the landlady who rents to the instigator punk- she apparently doesn't care, said she couldn't accuse him without seeing proof- she's got the opinion that the park is a bad thing, but conveniently ignores the fact that KIDS ROOSTING at the park are the bad element, NOT the park itself...
This shit's gonna stop one way or another. |
Kenm123t
| | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 05:08 pm: |
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flash bang with a trip wire then call the them in for A bAUMING LOL IN cOURT spell |
Mr_grumpy
| | Posted on Friday, January 06, 2012 - 05:45 pm: |
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Sounds like it's time to make that an undesirable place to be.
Have you thought about ultrasound?
Some stores in the UK were having trouble with kids hanging around outside & started playing mosquito sound.
It's at a pitch above what adults can usually hear but young people who have a greater pitch range aurally can hear it & find it disturbing.
Apparently it works though I've no idea how you'd set it up.
The only downside is that it may upset pets. |
Thumper74
| | Posted on Sunday, January 08, 2012 - 01:08 am: |
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No more issues. Checked with the city, being a corner lot, I'm not allow a fence. However, there are no zoning problems with a moat. |
Mr_grumpy
| | Posted on Sunday, January 08, 2012 - 05:06 am: |
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If that's the case, what you need is a Haha;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ha-ha |
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