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Datsaxman
| | Posted on Monday, December 05, 2011 - 07:33 pm: | 
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Bolivar,
It's cool if you don't "get" Easy Rider. You may be ten years too young...Lots of people don't get Miles Davis or Mozart... As the squid points out, it was the first time on TV or cinema that ANY bikers were more than cartoonish and one dimensional. Yes, it has it's rough spots.
It was a movie that *mattered*. Still does.
I rode a rally last Spring. Not the "biker" kind, the scavenger hunt kind. A list of bonus locations with points values and a task at each location (get a photo, a souvenir, some info), a time limit, and rules...The bonus locations were from "Torque". After I got home from it - and over 1000 miles in under 24 hours on the Ulysses - I saw Torque for the first time. "Oooh, I was there!" "Hey, I went the other way on that road", "WOW, that road is super cool!" through most of the movie. It turned an otherwise dreadful movie into a good time.
Car movies? Le Mans...Grand Prix...Bullitt... |
Kenm123t
| | Posted on Monday, December 05, 2011 - 07:50 pm: |
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Like most 60 70s Important or things that mattered You had to be stoned to get them Like Dylans music
Most of the 60 70s that is considered cool to day is marketing to nostalgia.
Stoners yippies hippies and the clinton type Reformers were considered the losers they really are! |
86129squids
| | Posted on Monday, December 05, 2011 - 09:58 pm: |
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When were you born, Ken?
The above post informs me that you've really, no clue.
DD- I appreciate your aspect. Or, POV.
Easy Rider is too important to be lost to those who don't understand.
Let's all kumbayaa long enough to grok one another.  |
86129squids
| | Posted on Monday, December 05, 2011 - 10:40 pm: |
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OK, gotta cross-pollinate threads...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1698010/reviews |
Kenm123t
| | Posted on Monday, December 05, 2011 - 11:16 pm: |
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59 The 60-70s annoyed me I m the youngest. Easy Rider wasnt that good
Wandering around on a bike getting stoned just isnt that cool. After Hollister and some of the other 1% Yahoos grabbing grabbing women off the street. Riding around looking like them then complaining about THE MAN was just plain stupid. We had our share of girls gang raped and left for dead tied to trees in the swamps. In florida it is a wonder every ( Harley rider ) wasnt shot on sight after 68 4 girls killed one month. |
86129squids
| | Posted on Monday, December 05, 2011 - 11:29 pm: |
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Wow. Thanks Ken, glad to have your perspective.
Sounds like you might've witnessed the "heyday" of the biker gangs, for the worse.
I draw a parallel with college fraternities- both groups had honorable origins, but regularly fell to evil.
When I was in college, I wanted to do a frat shirt with "gamma/delta/iota"... I never joined, just went to drink their beer during rush, mebbe mack on the sorority chicks that were worthwhile.
Whilst in college I studied sociology. Still trying to this day.
(Message edited by 86129squids on December 05, 2011) |
Bolthead
| | Posted on Monday, December 05, 2011 - 11:43 pm: |
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OK, I've been following this thread closely for the last couple of weeks. Taking a very broad view of the whole subject to biker movies, car movies, and porn flicks; I have concluded that we need a new hyphenated word in the English language, viz. "mech-porn." Really a flick involving good-looking motorcycles and a sub-borderline plot is stylistically equivalent to the typical skin-flick with a phone book for a story-line. And then there was the 1997 movie Titanic, staring DiCaprio & Winslet...if that isn't mech-porn I don't know what is. |
Kenm123t
| | Posted on Monday, December 05, 2011 - 11:47 pm: |
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Socialogy is a waste of time it leads too many down the path of evil. psychology has been corrupted as well.
Read machiavelli The federalist papers The Bible anything our founders wrote lincoln, Sun tzu , Classical Greek and Norse Mythology , Aesops fables Greek morality plays.If all else fails the original Star Trek they were morality plays Roddenberry shared the outlook of Rod Serling Scifi was political commentary of the times as was Shakespeare. Many other sources are out there |
86129squids
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 12:30 am: |
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Most folks who pursue Sociology go on to become our LEO's. The other branch is generally academic.
I've read L. Ron Hubbard, appreciated his sci-fi opus, but found lotsa holes in his philosophy. He and his followers lambaste psychology, but they're just trying to justify their tax-exempt status.
Wow. The BW spellcheck corrected "lambast" to "lambaste". I gotta get back on my game.
Ken, you're wrong, in general. Go spend some time in your local new/used bookstore, find some cheap books and some great cheap used CD's while you're there.
Take all afternoon. You'll be glad you did.
I've run out of good mentions for biker cinema. Anyone besides me seen "Man on a Wire"? |
Danger_dave
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 12:30 am: |
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>>And then there was the 1997 movie Titanic, staring DiCaprio & Winslet...if that isn't mech-porn I don't know what is.<<
You're right. You don't know what is. :-) |
86129squids
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 12:49 am: |
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Wait- lemme restate "wrong" to "too narrowly/shortly focused".
I strive to follow Pirsig's ideas of quality. Hope to lead more along that path.
So sorry about the thread drift...
Actually, given that there are so few sucky or great biker/motorcyclist/2wheeler movies out there, I submit to all youn's that we should continue to direct this thread to 4wheelin' movies, or extreme skateboarding movies.
Apparently we need to band together and produce the future of motorcycling/biker/DS'ing/carting/lawnmower racing movies.
Just sayin'.
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86129squids
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 12:52 am: |
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Weird. Just remembered that this coming Tuesday, there will be an opportunity to ride the Gap for several hours and contribute to "cinema"... |
86129squids
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 12:53 am: |
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No, not cinema, but cable TV. |
86129squids
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 12:58 am: |
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Bolt- somehow I think Bladerunner or Gattaca might fit your playbill better... thanks for the input. |
Danger_dave
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 01:53 am: |
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The problem is that the reality of what we do - zoom around and talk bikes and bull - is not very interesting if you aren't one of 'us' - so it has to be fictionalized - with said unfortunate results. |
86129squids
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 02:04 am: |
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Well, dangit DD- you're obviously not a cinematographer/writer.
IIRC you are a writer, or at least pretty good with a camera, even at speed...
I have a title for the next film.
"Life Outside Cages".
Bueller? |
86129squids
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 02:11 am: |
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I think Jay Leno has been wasting his/our time trying to do the Tonight Show, long before and since he hijacked it from Conan.
Why the heck hasn't he given in to his gearhead side, and indulged the rest of us?
Dang. |
Sparky
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 03:09 am: |
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"Why the heck hasn't he given in to his gearhead side, and indulged the rest of us?"
He does. But it's mostly every Sunday to a very limited audience. And you have to be there at the Rock Store... live... in person... before noon... sometimes. You'd be surprised at what he shows up on, or sometimes in. |
Whatever
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 09:27 am: |
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Squids... have you been drinking again? 
What we really need is Barker to do a documentary on Erik Buell... and to call it "Unleashed" or something like that.
Maybe a short spot of 45 minutes. I think that would be the best movie in the world. |
Jaimec
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 09:54 am: |
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I remember, after hearing all the hype, my reaction after seeing "Easy Rider."
WTF???
Maybe if I were in an "altered consciousness" while I watched it... it WAS the 60's after all. I had the same reaction as the curtain lowered after "2001: A Space Odyssey" too. |
86129squids
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 12:33 pm: |
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Char- ya know, that's not a bad idea at all! Hopefully you've seen "The World's Fastest Indian"- on most of the DVD's of that movie, the extras include the original documentary on Burt Munroe, which was fantastic in its own right, aside from the feature film.
Given the proper amount of historical research (hint, hint, Court, Dave Gess, et al), we could see this idea to fruition!!
Yo, Barker, you listenin?
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