| Author | Message | ||
     Whatever |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15834476 Secret Net Tor used by pedophiles to circulate sexual abuse photos ? Sick. | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
Not bizarre. The people who prey on children virtually or in the real world have long sought anonymous ways to peddle their wares and promote their ideologies. They are just capitalizing on a new use of technology. Believe me, law enforcement will have a response. | ||
| Froggy |
Nothing new. Tor is great, but like facebook, myspace and similar, if you get enough people using it, eventually someone is going to use it for malicious purposes. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
"Nothing new. Tor is great, but like facebook, myspace and similar, if you get enough people using it, eventually someone is going to use it for malicious purposes." I just commented on another post you made earlier, and now this post. Another solid opinion. I agree, sometimes people abuse things including technology. It sucks, but hopefully they'll get shut down and dealt with soon enough | ||
| Satori |
+1 Froggy Its just sad that it happens, it seriously screws people up for the rest of their lives. Had a girlfiend that had been abused as a early teen, repeatedly raped by her step father. she has a hard time having a normal relationship. Oviously it ended for us, to bad hard not liking a woman who rides sport bikes and cooks! | ||
| Froggy |
Unfortunately its going to happen with any technology. Bittorrent started out as a way to share files with each other with ease, so it didn't take long for people to figure out its great for piracy. Telephones started off as a way to communicate with others over a great distance, then eventually they became tools to remotely detonate bombs. Cars started off as a way to travel vast distances with ease, yet more than a few people have been intentionally run down over the past century. Tor was used to help circumvent censorship in countries, but it can also be used as a tool to get kiddie porn. Anything can be used differently than intended, it is just a shame that the first mentions of many great things will be of criminal acts, making people think that everyone associated with it is a criminal. Hell it is the same thing us motorcyclists have to deal with because of a handful of 1%'ers and squids. | ||
| Ezblast |
amen | ||
| Singledark |
anyway, good luck for u. | ||
| Whatever |
Of course they do not elaborate very much on exactly what other illegal activities that includes besides kiddie porn. And yes, I hate to call it something innocuous like kiddie porn... despite what the media says, the Elizabeth Smart type survivors (women who have seemed to transcend sexual abuse fairly unscathed) are few and far between. What I also do not understand about the article is that all of it is routed through Amazon.com ??? That makes absolutely no sense to me, either. It might be time to delete my Amazon account and stop shopping there if this is the case! (Message edited by Whatever on November 23, 2011) | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
The term kiddie porn sort of trivializes it. It should be called evidence of child sexual abuse. Criminals will always find a way to commit crimes, and law enforcement will always try to stop them. | ||
| Froggy |
Given that it provides security and anonymity, it will be popular with those looking to perform illegal activities.
No. Amazon provides services including web hosting and CPU power. Think of it like being able to rent a super computer and running a website off of it. Tor relies on a series of thousands of computers to route data, and currently 14 of the 2457 active routers are hosted on Amazon computers. Amazon didn't set these up, and is only renting out their bandwidth and computer power like they do for several hundred thousand of other websites and businesses. The BBC article unjustly paints Amazon in a bad light, as they are doing nothing wrong. | ||
| 86129squids |
"Hell it is the same thing us motorcyclists have to deal with because of a handful of 1%'ers and squids." Hey!! Back OT, there's surely a special place in hell for pedophiles... | ||
| Whatever |
So... I don't get it Froggy... are you saying Amazon is an isp provider like Time Warner Cable... Which by the way... TWC sux some major a## these days... I have done everything I can think of to scan my laptop and defrag and it is still running slow... Have Trend Micro Virus subscription... and just did a full scan with them and with MS Security Essentials. I got the laptop in February of 2009 and has been running great up until about three weeks ago... Any ideas what to do now Froggers? | ||
| Froggy |
No, they do web hosting, like GoDaddy. Websites and various web resources are stored on Amazon servers. They do not provide internet access, that is what the ISP (Time Warner) does.
These days? That implies they never sucked. 
Do you mean that just internet is slow, or the computer itself is acting slow? Most of the time the computer itself is running slow and people will blame the internet provider. Having Trend Micro and MS Security at the same time will cause extra slowness, as they will be in a sense fighting each other to check files. I don't have any experience with Trend Micro, but I know the MS Security is great. Slowness can be caused by a number of things, so it is hard to speculate without looking at it myself, but it may be crap running in the background sucking up your resources. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
As has been said it's a useful tool but it just depends whose using it. All the news agencies will hang a child-porn/paedophilia connection on any story they can as it creates more buzz than corporate fraud or dodging your taxes. As for Amazon, I only just found out they sell more than books & cd's these days. One day I'll wake up & find I'm living in the corporate state of somethingorother (tm). | ||
| Buellinmke |
TOR was designed for the DoD/intelligence departments for anonymous communication throughout the world. http://cryptome.org/0003/tor-spy.htm | ||
| Whatever |
So should I turn MS Security back off? I pay for trend so it stays for now. | ||
| Thumper74 |
Whatever, I see what you're saying. Men/boys are as likely to be sexually abused as women/girls are. The sad part is that many, but not all, of these children grow up to perpetrate the acts that were performed against them. It's a vicious cycle. As far as victims of sexual abuse go, no victim comes away relatively unscathed. The memories may be repressed for 20 years and then come back with a vengence, or they may have tons of counseling, but they are deeply affected by their expereinces. I does leave scars. I have a hard time explaining my thoughts when it comes to my beliefs, but the short of it is that anyone who forces dominance over anyone else sexually (without the dominated person's willing, knowing consent) is less than human. |
