| Author | Message | ||
     Xl1200r |
I was all set to buy new tires for my S3T. I've had very good luck with the Pilot Road 2s I had on there - the rear is pretty whooped after 9,000 miles or so, and that includes a bunch of straight roads through the desert and checking the pressures maybe once every couple months. I was all set to buy another set when I came across the Continental Conti motions - anyone have any long term reviews on them? I've seen claims that they'll last just as long, but the kicker is they cost $80 less. Worth it? Or stay with the tried and true? | ||
| Gunut75 |
I had Conti Road Attacks for my last set. I now have PR3's. The PR3's are miles ahead of the Contis. Road Attack is supposed to be the premier Conti sport touring tire, and they only lasted 6000 miles. Both the front AND rear were toast. The Michelins have 5000+ miles on them and are still faaaar better than the Contis ever were. I can easily see another 5000+ going on the Michelins before they are beat. I know you have PR2's and are looking at Conti motions, and I have Road Attacks compared to PR3's, but I think the compound in the Michelins is far better. I know the Conti motions are a harder compound than the Road Attacks, so you will be giving up some traction. But, do you take your bike to that limit often enough to matter? I prefer the Michelins because they last longer, and have better traction all the way to the edge of the tire, which I try to use as often as possible. Anyhoo, thats my comparison of Michelin to Continental. I would spend the extra $ because my style of riding justifies it. Cheers!  | ||
| Xl1200r |
Yeah, I decided the Contis were a little too cheap. Plus, I realized that my front is still in pretty good shape, so I just ordered a PR2 rear. I know the PR2 and PR3 use the same compound, just different tread pattern on the 3, so the wear should be about the same between the two. I put a set of Road Attacks on my old 12R some years ago and they developed cracks in all of the tread grooves in a few months, so Conti has a bad taste in my mouth from the start. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I have the Conti Motions on the M2 right now and LOVE them. Best bang for the buck. I'd say I like them as much as the PR2s. | ||
| Xl1200r |
Ft_ How long have you had them? How quick do they heat up and how well are they in the rain? I may give them a second thought when the time comes to replace both tires at the same time. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I've had them for about 1000 miles. I've never had them slip. They heat up well, and the wet traction is excellent! Since they are single compound, there is a compromise. The center isn't as hard and the edges aren't as soft. This means that ultimately, you can push them beyond the capacity of the edge to hold more easily than a multi-compound tire. The other compromise is that the center will wear more quickly than a multi-compound tire. At the price of the tire deal you can get on the Motions, it's pretty damned hard to get upset at not getting all the mileage you might out of a multi-compound tire. I haven't been able to get them to break loose in aggressive riding. Here's the tire deal I got: http://www.motosport.com/motorcycle/product/CONTIN ENTAL-MOTION-TIRE-COMBO/?id=118071#BVRRWidgetID For $169 2 day shipped to my door, it's the best bang for the buck! | ||
| Buellmojo |
I have the Conti. Motion tires on one of my bikes, not as good as some of the other tires I have ran, but I was not expecting them to be either...not really any complaints though, and the money saved was a huge plus...they have seen the edges too, several times. The PR2's were also great tires, handling, mileage, and smoothness. I was going to buy them again, but for the savings, I had to try the Conti's...glad I did so far. | ||
| Union_man |
I have run a few sets of both Conti Motions and PR2's. Conti Motions last about 1/2 as long as PR2's. Less than 1/2 in my experience. Prices as of today from Motorcycle Superstore. Conti Motions $105 rear $79 front Total $184 PR2's $150 rear $116 font Total $266 Mount and Balance is $30 each. My math... Conti Motions $368 + $120 = $488 (changed twice) PR2's $266 + 60 = $326 Unless you change your own tires I don't see any savings. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I've never had any tire last more than 4000 miles. This included the PR2s. | ||
| Xl1200r |
Union and Ft_ - that's exactly the type of input I was looking for - someone who's ran both, on the same bike, same riding style. Seems we still have differing opinions, though  To be fair, I've never had a tire last less than 4000 miles - All of my sportbike tires seem to last around 5000-5500, but the PR2s on the S3 have gone somewhere around 9000 miles and the front has a lot of life left in it. I do change my own tires, but I'm also willing to spend a little more (not a TON, but a little) if it means I can do it less often both to save the hassle and the downtime for the bike. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I change my own tires with Chad Hargis's help. I've paid a TON for tires, I've paid virtually nothing (Shinko Ravens at $145 delivered). The worst mileage was from a Strada at 1800 miles. The best mileage was from an Avon Storm at 4200 miles. The PR2s were at around 4000 miles. Most of the time, I don't do two fronts to a rear. I replace them both at the same time. The last set of Shinkos I bought I did run two fronts to a rear without issue. MY results don't justify spending the extra. I'm a thick bastard on a heavy bike with poor throttle discipline. | ||
| Xl1200r |
I'm a thick bastard on a heavy bike with poor throttle discipline. I'm not so thick and with the S3, I don't hammer the throttle so hard very often - long wearing with good grip at near full lean is what I'm after on that bike. Now, the 1125CR (or the built X1 that will hopefully replace it) is another story... | ||
| Sifo |
Ft_bstrd, I'm just curious... Did you wear out the sides of your PR2s with a bunch left in the middle? I could believe that could happen if you live where you can ride twisties all the time. Living in IL I can't say enough good about the PR2s. I got over 20K on my last set and managed to have the entire carcase worn pretty evenly at the end. My experience with changing one front for two rears on the PR2s had me getting a new front early. I'm not going to try to stretch the front's life on these any more, just changing them as a pair and enjoying the fact that the front will always be in good condition. For me the price isn't an issue because of the long life I've gotten from them. They've been economical in the long run. Sorry, I know nothing about the Contis. | ||
| 46champ |
I got something on the other side of 8000 miles on a PR2 rear and 5700 on a Conti motion rear. Mostly commuting with some spirtted weekend riding. I was hoping the Conti Motions would last like the old Conti HiTouer they lasted like the old Conti Blitz. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Normal road surface in your area probably makes a HUGE difference as well. Around Ohio, I wear tires pretty slowly (6k on a rear sync on an XB9). On a two day trip to Deals Gap / Cherholoa, I can see visible wear in just a couple of days / 600 miles. I wouldn't be surprised if that NC chip-n-seal didn't eat tires 30% faster. | ||
| Rpm4x4 |
Ive got 8000 on my PR3s now and they still look fantastic. I honestly cant say enough good things about them. Very predictable and good in the wet and cold | ||
| Xl1200r |
My experience with changing one front for two rears on the PR2s had me getting a new front early. I'd guess that my front is more than half worn and I'll be in the same boat. I have a couple used front tires laying around that are in usable shape still, so I have backups if that's the case to stretch me to make it to a full-pair change. The front is so easy to it it's not much of an issue. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
The roads in TN, GA, and NC are like riding on 50 grit sand paper. It literally chews up tires. The plus side? The roads are like riding on velcro. My tires are worn from center to edges, but there is usually a little tread left on the outer edges. I tend to hang off as much as possible permitting as much vertical meat contact patch as possible. Maximum lean angles means minimum tread capacity and decreased margin of error. | ||
| Whisperstealth |
Bang for buck? Raven 009's. 10K and counting, but the rear is about done. $170 shipped to my door for a set. $30.00 to mount & balance. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Yep. Ran those last time. I like the profile of the ContiMotions better. Might have to try the Shinko 011 Verge next go around though. |
