Drkside, Don't worry about turning conservative. The labels pundits hang on people are almost always wrong. Few people are all one thing. Though we do see some very useful idiot Occupiers that think they are.
I'm a fiscal conservative. ( spending money you don't have has consequences + The Almighty State must have limits or you are no longer free.... at all. )
Hawk ( Never Pay Danegeld. You Never get rid of the Dane. (fighting back against bullies may get you beat up, but soon you get to keep your lunch money. You are too much trouble for cowards to deal with.) Evil exists and if you don't fight it, who will? Ask the Jews of Warsaw in the '30's about that. There are a few left. )
Social liberal. ( equal rights, women, minorities, etc. Equal outcomes is a Myth of Evil people. Mostly, it's none of your (governments) business what I do. ( An it harm none do what ye will }
Constitutionalist. ( not perfect, just better than anyone has come up with in 14,000 years of war and strife. Basic concept is very wise and very simple. Limit the power of some over all so you don't get Kings who care nothing of the people and become authoritarian. Don't let the Mob rule ( why we are a Republic and NOT a Democracy ) since evil men can exploit them. )
I'm NOT a happy days conservative, nor a progressive leftist. I note that history shows that those who wish power have used the ideas of Marx ( largely stolen from ancient Christians ) to gain power at all costs and in the process have murdered hundreds of millions of people. Examples abound. N. Korea, The Soviet Empire, Zimbabwe, Red China, Cambodia, Burma, Cuba, Venezuela, .............
It always starts with idealistic youth. After the Revolution they are the first up against the wall and shot. Evil men are behind this.
Reindog, the nazi's are already there.
Sifo, re: your 11:55 video post. Woman has kids. Won't do a job that would violate her political standards. Or not pay enough. Or be full time. That leaves her either letting the children die, or being a stripper. Good luck! Cherry Pie! ( your new stage name )
Coffee cart owner Linda Jenson and hot dog cart operators Letty and Pete Soto said they initially provided free food and drink to demonstrators, but when they stopped, the protesters became violent. . . . “Both carts have had items stolen, have had their covers vandalized with markings and graffiti, as well as one of the carts had urine and blood splattered on it,” said Councilman Carl DeMaio.
The damages will likely require at least a complete cleaning if not a replacement of the cart covers, DeMaio said.
In addition to the attacks, the vendors also said they recently received death threats.
So this is how they treat those who have fed them with free food! Imagine if you don't agree with them!
What a flash from the past. I haven't heard Bob Avakian's name since I was a warehouseman at UPS in 1980. One of the sorters belonged to the RCP and treated Avakian as a mixture of Mao and Christ. I never saw evidence of the charisma that his followers exuberantly saw. He repeatedly tried to get the workers to sing "The International" to no avail. When asked what we are going to do after the Revolution, he said we would spend our free time building houses for the poor in Oakland. When I asked who was going to build my house, there was nothing but indignant silence. I said the hell with it and worked for my Masters Degree in Electrical Engineering instead of Raging Against the Machine.
I guess things haven't changed much with these folks.
That may be true. I suspect the reality of "Communist" rule would simply kill most of these folk even before they were shot in the back of the head after signing their confessions.
... Probably for the first time in history, one side pins its hopes of winning on the other’s gullibility and willingness to believe even the most patently impossible things: Polar bears who can’t swim! Melting ice caps! Seas rising! And that’s simply “global warming,” the magnificent hoax with which we succeeded “global cooling” when that one didn’t work out 30 years ago.
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 07:19 am:
"Today is the anniversary of Kristallnacht, the night in 1938 when German Nazis coordinated a nationwide attack on Jewish homes, businesses, and synagogues. The attack was inspired by the murder of a German diplomat by a Jew in Paris. When Hitler heard the news, he got the idea to stage a mass uprising in response. He and Joseph Goebbels contacted storm troopers around the country, and told them to attack Jewish buildings but to make the attacks look like spontaneous demonstrations. The police were told not to interfere with the demonstrators, but instead to arrest the Jewish victims. Fire fighters were told only to put out fires in any adjacent Aryan properties. Everyone cooperated. In all, more than 1,000 synagogues were burned or destroyed. Rioters looted about 7,500 Jewish businesses and vandalized Jewish hospitals, homes, schools, and cemeteries. Many of the attackers were neighbors of the victims. The Nazis confiscated any compensation claims that insurance companies paid to Jews. They also imposed a huge collective fine on the Jewish community for having supposedly incited the violence. The event was used to justify barring Jews from schools and most public places, and forcing them to adhere to new curfews. In the days following, thousands of Jews were sent to concentration camps. The event was called Kristallnacht, which means, "Night of Broken Glass." It's generally considered the official beginning of the Holocaust. Before that night, the Nazis had killed people secretly and individually. After Kristallnacht, the Nazis felt free to persecute the Jews openly, because they knew no one would stop them"
From an e-mail forwarded to me.
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
Think the owners and workers in the shops having their windows smashed by a mob of masked thugs are going to support the Revolution? Or do they fear they are the next target for the Mob?
We'll never have another Stalin. Another Mao. It'll be a Khan Noonien Singh, and he'll order the slaughter of millions for power. The excuse might be different than previous despots, but the millions murdered won't care.
The shattered windows in Oakland are not the SAME as the German Jewish Ghetto. The ones doing the window breaking to intimidate, and, mostly get a thrill, may claim different motivations, but the REAL reason is the same. Power for a very few self appointed "leaders". Speeches are given to blame troubles on a small group, then violence to intimidate, then, in hopefully rare cases ( we wish ) the mass slaughter.
The mass slaughter part seems only to be inevitable when the idiotology is one of the marxist religions. Like OWS.
At what point does a protest movement become an excuse for camping? At what point is utopianism discredited by the seedy, dangerous, derelict fun fair it creates? At what point do the excesses of a movement become so prevalent they can reasonably be called its essence? At what point do Democratic politicians need to repudiate a form of idealism that makes use of Molotov cocktails?
Anyone that supports the Happy Face of Marx, Lenin, Mao, Stalin is an idiot, blind, ignorant, and in the face of reality and history.
PS, the Communists have a LONG history of murdering Homosexuals - I don't think they will take the time to find out the personal issues of gender reassignment vs homosexuality.... If you are lucky, it is a bullet to the head, if you are not, it is buried alive by a bull dozer . And as recently as 96. Welcome to the new freedom Comrade.
I have to ask from some of the members that were around during the counter culture movement of the Hippies of the 60's.... are these not the same useful idiots ?
I know my Grandfather thought they were dumb ass lazy moron slackers that did nothing but fornicate, smoke dope and shiate on themselves. (he long ago disowned a could of uncles because of their Hippy Ways)
PS I do find it funny that the generation that said trust noone over 35 ... has be driving the train since disco was around.