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Pwnzor
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Incredibly poor guess on your part, ludicrously so.

Well... if you only look at the Quick board, maybe...
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Macbuell
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

$5K? That's a lot of dough to spend on a laptop from a publicly traded company that made over $7B in profit last quarter.

I see a lot of hypocrisy in this whole thing.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just out of interest, does the anti-semitic lady-of-color (or whatever you call it these days) still have a job?

Anyone in Europe expounding such views publicly while working in education would be out on their ear in short order.
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Strokizator
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My guess, she's on "paid administrative leave" pending a hearing with a union rep in attendance.
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Superdavetfft
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 05:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

court; COPS BEAT WHO you ask? I'm not surprised that you, and many on this site, appear to be misinformed. If you're watching fox news you're completely off base, other outlets vary but the majority are twisting it a great deal.

well anyway there's a ton to choose from, more new ones each day as cops get more violent, here's a sample...

The point being is that the media isn't broadcasting this side. The cops are violent, the protesters are not.


violence
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzke07SiwFs&feature =related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1R2MBuVQPA&feature =related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_7rZbVerlI&feature =related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt6XCq1dm6A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=nMoKsZp5iao



do you want MORE proof? quit being close minded and watch what the people are doing


And a veterans perspective;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7v-Na4sip0&feature =related

and his interview

personal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvzuQO4CczU

and olberman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJcPqUkdy4w


and this antisemitic BS started by the media misreporting events;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEPgAp5Mkyc


and info about the park;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpNJvWqHQ2A

basically the media is feeding the public BS and if you don't educate yourself by seeking additional information you're not getting the real story...

and in case you still don't get WHAT they are demanding here it is; (because the media likes to act as if they have no 'real demands')

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_OCo_LsinE


think folks, these people got rich off of your mortgages, your 401k, your taxes from the bailouts and yet no punishment is dolled out and they still got massive bonuses?!? WTF

Read, Watch, Think...

Please don't trust some idiot on TV paid by these very corporations...
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dave, you're only showing us video from the point the police decide to take action. Show video of the 5 minutes BEFORE the police decided to make an arrest. My guess is you'll see abusive and arrogant actions on the part of the protesters. If a protester touches a cop, they're going to get arrested. If they resist arrest, they're going to get taken down. They know what happens. These folks are professional protesters (most of them) and the ones getting arrested want to get arrested. That's why they're there. Their buddy records it and puts it on youtube and folks just eat it up. You're being used. Your sympathy is misplaced.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree that the media is doing heavy malpractice.

Here's the bottom line.

No matter how righteous the cause of the first 3 guys who showed up to protest, it's NOW about a leftist revolution, and the evil guys that profit from that. Nazi's, Communists, the very evil rich. ( Soros ) Throw in the attempt to co-opt the protests by the Dems?

If you preach hate and envy.. you are bad.

Period fracking dot.

There may be good people there with good reasons to want change. ( That THEY can believe in? ) Too bad. They are now in with people who want trouble, and I bet you a dollar it's going to be violent.

Remember the Chicago lesson of 1968?

a.Never throw shit at an armed man.
b.Never stand next to someone who is throwing shit at an armed man.


( thanks to Larry Niven http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niven's_laws )

I also like Never fire a laser at a mirror.

Trust me, that is relevant.
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Superdavetfft
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hootowl are you kidding me? 'professional protesters'???

Are those gals that were sprayed point blank with mace by a cowardly cop professionals?

Where do you get this from? did you even WATCH the videos??

"My guess... " aha there you admit you don't know so watch and figure it out. Don't just regurgitate some conservative talking point that doesn't even apply.

Do these folks look like 'pros'???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GazhaLD_Daw

People who ignore issues and just assume the 'news' is right, like you, are a huge part of this country's problems. Start thinking for yourself and stop GUESSING....
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

and in case you still don't get WHAT they are demanding here it is; (because the media likes to act as if they have no 'real demands')

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_OCo_LsinE


So... Anti-capitalism? That's pretty much what I've been able to gather. A bunch of useful idiots that would make the former Soviet Union proud.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dave, even in some of the videos you've shown to support your side you can see the crowd is unruly and uncooperative with the cops. In one you can see them tearing down the fencing the police have put up. Try that sort of crap with a cop on any given day; You will wind up with the cop kneeling on your neck as they put the cuffs on you. The SHOULD put away the pepper spray and beat them like baby seals.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>Please don't trust some idiot on TV paid by these very corporations...

I never would.

If you have nothing better than those videos to make your point . . .you, my friend, are screwed.

I do confess to being suitably entertained watching these low life bastards protest "big business" while holding a protest sign in one hand and an iPhone (Apple announced profits today) and using Starbucks WiFi.

It's an indictment of the educational system.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's an indictment of the educational system.

You got that right.
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Cowboy
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This bring to mind the old saying it is a shame that youth is waisted on the young.
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J2blue
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 07:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some people seem to think that life is fair. It isn't. Most ordinary humans strive to make life fair, but conflicts inevitably arise. Sometimes the only right thing to do will be terribly unfair to some, yet is best for the whole. There will always be situations that to an individual will seem unfair. Philosophers have struggled with this issue for many thousands of years. The ultimate conclusion? Life is unfair, get over it.

Not all corporations and/or banks have made a profit that was unfair or usurious. Nor the people that work for them. There have been some executives and some ordinary con men who have, for the time being "gotten away" with other people's money. But that state of affairs is nothing new or unusual. Many will find karma of a sort, much like Madoff has. The position that somehow Walstreet has conspired against the 99% is a simpleton's thinking, based on a dubious understanding of an often misused statistic about wealth distribution in America.

How much wealth has ever been more evenly distributed in any country at any time? What do you think the 99% in any other country have? Today or a thousand years ago? Sift through all the protesters and find the ones you think have a legitimate grievance and ask the above questions about their complaints. What is their real complaint? What have they ever really been deprived of? Loans they never have to repay? In any amount the "need" to do what ever calls to them in life? That is all wishful fantasy and it is sad to see so many adults in such a deluded state. But not all of us are deluded about the nature of their discontent. We don't buy it, we grew up and moved on with our lives with an understanding that life is rarely fair and if we work hard we may find some prosperity and happiness. But we never once expected life had to work that way or that we had a right to demand it.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My opinion of the protesters comes from the very same place your videos come from. Not Fox news or Cnn and especially not Msnbc. But the ones I saw on YT capture the unruly crowd "before" the arrests were made. AND before the people got their well deserved spicy spray in the face. I don't know about professional protesters, it's common knowledge to most people what most Peace Officer procedures would do for unruly protesters. Paid protesters I hear are out there though.

the majority of those video's are after the fact and not showing the PEACE OFFICER asking the people to move or cooperate in some way... and they eagerly ignore the PEACE OFFICER's demands and then also have to RESIST, which they do. Then the PEACE OFFICER doe's his job.

I AM THE 100%
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 07:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2011/10/18/occupy-cl eveland-protester-alleges-she-was-raped/


quote:

CLEVELAND, Ohio (CBS Cleveland) – An “Occupy Cleveland” protester tells police she was raped in her tent over the weekend.

Cleveland police are investigating an alleged sexual assault incident Saturday at the “Occupy Cleveland” rally involving a 19-year-old female student from Parma.

According to police reports, the 19-year-old student was instructed by “Occupy Cleveland” personnel to “share a tent with the suspect due to a shortage of tents.” The suspect identified himself as “Leland” to the woman. The woman told police that after she had thought the suspect went to sleep in his own bed, she slept in a sleeping bag provided to her by the rally.

The student went to school Monday and told a teacher about her sexual assault incident in Public Square — which is being classified as “kidnapping/rape” — prompting the teacher to immediately contact the authorities.

“Occupy Cleveland” is one of many movements taking place nationwide in the wake of “Occupy Wall Street,” which is protesting against corporate greed.

Emails from CBS Cleveland to the “Occupy Cleveland” movement were not immediately returned.


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Reindog
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 07:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting op-ed piece by Douglas Schoen in the WSJ which warns Democrats from embracing OWS.

Polling the Occupy Wall Street Crowd

Schoen has already been attacked. I will leave you OWS lovers to find it yourself. Mr Schoen served as a pollster for President Clinton so I highly doubt he has a partisan axe to grind.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well stated XDigitalx.

Sadly, for some the ability to discern truth is inversely proportional to their desire to believe one particular side of an issue. It's indicative of either poor integrity or an inability to think critically.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting story based on polling of the protestors. On the question of violence...

quote:

nearly one-third (31%) would support violence to advance their agenda



The rest is a pretty interesting read. They are without a doubt anti-capitalism. They are also without a doubt clueless.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100014240529702044 79504576637082965745362.html
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Threatening to set people on fire and assaulting them. These idiots don't even know what reporters support them.

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Court
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They try the violence in NYC they are in for the surprise of their lives ..........
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Thumper74
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm not above violence to stop their agenda...
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Whatever
Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone who would willingly walk into the "belly of the beast" of that thing... and NOT expect any reaction from any LEO who is just doing their job, is either extremely naive, downright stupid or a masochist (or quite possibly all three).

I do understand the frustration, I just have a different outlet for it I guess. Looking for work, studying for career advancement while I have the time and volunteering in something I beleive in.

I do feel sorry for people who work down there who have to put up with it every day...

(Message edited by Whatever on October 19, 2011)
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Danger_dave
Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 12:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You heard about the German version?

Occupy Poland.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 12:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 02:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Farce is strong in this one!
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 06:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Occupy Poland.

My grandparents were at that one. I plan to be in the family compound when this one gets going strong. Violence is coming.
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Dynasport
Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 08:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

uhhmm....hello President Zero 99%ers
Just those three threads have more posts than BB&D has for weeks, maybe months.

Ludicrous.

Blake, if you wish to continue your disparaging remarks of my opinion, send me a PM if you want me to know. I won't be visiting this thread again.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 08:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



Don't like what you see and hear? Just cry more and maybe you will get your way.

While the so-called 99% are busy occupying places, the rest of us will be doing things.

So go ahead and shit all over yourselves, if your life's rewards come in the form of handouts... and I will go on earning a living.

If it comes down to Occupants vs. Us, I will pray for God to show mercy on the souls of the occupiers.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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