| Author | Message | ||
     Froggy |
I don't really have a problem with NASCAR in general, but does anyone else think the Daytona 500 is really over hyped? I watch it every year at my co workers house, and it feels like they keep trying harder and harder to make it interesting, but between the annoying commentators and nearly identical cars, the racing feels fake. | ||
| 46champ |
It's plate racing what do you want? It's not like anyone has any horsepower to pass. They probably need to redo Daytona and Talladega with 20 degree banks and take the plates away. | ||
| Svh |
There is a reason ESPN.com has a "Racing" section and a separate "NASCAR" section. I really can't stand watching the races. Beyond the only left turns in a circle, I too feel like the racers and their fighting is the only thing that is compelling about the series. Various phantom "Debris on the racing surface" yellows during certain people leading probably doesn't help their case for the races not being fake/fixed at times. The only time I like to watch racing in circles is when dirt is involved. | ||
| Kenm123t |
May be Froggy but dont say that to my kid he will do Kart burnouts in your bedroom. Its the big race but its also the first of the season so its always a wild card. We go to Homestead every other year Its a bike week type experience all manner of stuff before the race around the track. Actually seeing the race and keeping up with the postions is better on TV Fox has the best cameras. | ||
| Hughlysses |
Racist!  | ||
| Jhallgren |
 I thought the same thing when I read the title Hugh. | ||
| Kenm123t |
Froggy is too young to remember the 60s He is venturi Illiterate ! If he falls into salt water he will go out fizzing like Speedy Alkaseltzer from all the shorting out batteries . | ||
| Just_ziptab |
It seems to be getting to be about as fake/staged as wrestling.Never mind the praise in every mouthful to the sponsors and people. It's getting old and tiring for me. They just want your "fan money"......./ | ||
| Blake |
Too much promotion, not enough interesting racing. I agree! Best thing they could do is break the races up into three or four shorter ones. Don't allow any garage work in between to maintain the endurance aspect. I'd much sooner watch that than one sleep inducing 500 mile race. One thing that never fails to impress are the track cameras that really display a true sense of the incredible speed. | ||
| 86129squids |
Never understood the draw of NASCAR. I'd rather watch a figure 8 race with school buses. Driving fast and turning left- heck, I did that and flipped my go-kart when I was 9. Never got a sponsorship for that... | ||
| Jramsey |
Flush the stool and pour in a bag of Skittles,same effect....more excitement. | ||
| Cyclonedon |
When the Daytona 500 is run, football season is already over with and nothing else to watch on tv. Would you rather be watching figure skating? | ||
| Blake |
>>> Never understood the draw of NASCAR Really? Just put yourself in the driver's seat... 200 MPH, bumper to bumper, three wide... Junior Johnson, Richard Petty, Yarborough, Waltrip, Earnhardt... I think it's incredibly exciting, just not for three or more hours a shot. | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
i really enjoy the tech aspect of it. all the work that goes in before the engine gets started on the grid. some real genius level work going on in some of those shops. hard for me to stay focused long enough to watch a 500mi race though. | ||
| U4euh |
Blake, you bring up some great names, unfortunatley we wont see the likes of those kinds again. | ||
| Andymnelson |
"I'd rather watch a figure 8 race with school buses" we go to "friday night destruction" at a local track at least once/year! School bus races (including figure 8s), burn out contests, flag pole races, roll over contests....SO much fun! | ||
| Swordsman |
I'd rather watch a figure 8 race with school buses. That sounds awesome!  ~SM | ||
| Crackhead |
I agree with Froggy a little bit more each year. The cars aero, motor, chasis, and suspension package gets regulated to be less and less diverse every year. Eventually the only difference will be the driver and the car color. | ||
| Hootowl |
"Would you rather be watching figure skating" I would. Power and grace. And hot chicks too  | ||
| Badlionsfan |
It may sound cliche, but NASCAR, and the DAYTONA 500 were much better when it was less popular and NASCAR wasn't meddling with it so much. The drivers aren't as interesting, having a personality is frowned on now. Maybe it's cuz I was a fan, but I really don't think NASCAR has recovered from the loss of Dale Earnhardt. It didn't matter if he was racing for 1st or 21st, everyone always knew where he was on the track. No one since has commanded such attention and respect since. That's what's wrong. | ||
| 99buellx1 |
There is one race at a NASCAR race that I enjoy......green flag pit stops! That is fun to watch! | ||
| Hughlysses |
The cars aero, motor, chassis, and suspension package gets regulated to be less and less diverse every year. Don't forget the tracks. All the recently-built tracks have been virtual copies of Charlotte's tri-oval. Several of the oldest tracks have been cut out of the schedule and even Darlington is down to one race a year. I rarely bother to watch any more. | ||
| Etennuly |
I watched the Daytona 500 from the stands, the back stretch stands, and the infield over several years. Also went to the Saturday Busch series races. There is a lot of stuff that you just cannot see or feel on TV, although you have a better seat for viewing. One year for the Busch races we sat on the bleachers out of turn two. The next day we were in the infield near there. Ernie Irvan wrecked trying to run three wide out of two, which never worked back in the late 80's early 90's. His hood came off and flew into the stands very near where we sat the day before. I think four people were seriously injured and maybe one of them died from that deal. We only heard rumors. I sat on the front straight near the exit of pit row, where Davy Allison came out of his pit and probably was well over 100 mph before his jack came out from under the car and flung across the end of the grass. I was at Darlington when Cale Yarboro showed his colors in the mid 80's. They took the green flag when he pulled in on the end of the first lap. He took his steering wheel off and was beating the inside of the car with it and swinging it out the window at his crew. They changed four tires, he flew back onto the track a lap down was a man on a mission. He ran like he was on fire. There was no hesitation passing anyone. He won that race by nearly a full lap over second place. They say Bristol is the best track to watch from, but I like the big tracks much better. Bristol is so busy you cannot keep focus on anything for a second or two. It is so loud that even ear plugs give up and a couple of years ago there was no wind so being in the stands was tough due to the exhaust fumes that gathered where we were in turn four. My favorite way to watch the races is to get a cold drink, bag of chips and dip, recline in my favorite chair. I watch the first fifty to eighty laps and sleep to about thirty to fifty laps to go. Watch the end and recaps of what I missed, then go out to mow the lawn. Their return to Saturday night racing has messed up my style.  I don't watch it much anymore. The best place to watch dirt track racing is from the driver's seat!  | ||
| Pwnzor |
NASCAR =  LeMans & Dakkar =  | ||
| Blake |
The DVR has helped improve the TV viewing experience. Same for football and baseball. You can watch every play in a football game in around twenty minutes. | ||
| Etennuly |
You can watch every play in a football game in around twenty minutes But the nap in the middle is the important part!  | ||
| Bads1 |
Want EXCITEMENT??? Take a bag of Skittles and flush them down the toilet. The first color that goes down wins. Also solves the problem of a long race. You could split the bag into 1/4's and have four short races. You'd be done in under 2 minutes. (Message edited by bads1 on October 06, 2011) | ||
| 86129squids |
Blake, et al- Yeah, I'd appreciate going fast, but give me MC racing of any kind over NASCAR. Also, the Tour de France! I will say that I have a great appreciation for the origins and history of NASCAR, but the modern version has no appeal- the sponsorship thing really has gone overboard. (As with many popular sports as well.) I expect someone's logo to show up on driver's eyelids any day now. | ||
| Kenney83 |
 then there is this after words  | ||
| Danger_dave |
What have the Certians ever done to you? | ||
| Gunut75 |
I was a rear tire changer for International Harvester series a while back (2002?). Even got to sit in on a few driver's meetings. I liked doing the job while getting carted all over the country every weekend. The long track races I find boring. The short track and street courses is really a test of the drivers and pit crews. What really gets me going is when you stand on the concrete about 10 feet from a car doing 160 mph+. I don't think I can change 2 rear tires in under 18 seconds anymore though. Out of practice ya know....... Yes, it's o.k. to hate. Each to their own. | ||
| Barker |
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| Danger_dave |
Ovals are for squares. | ||
| Sarodude |
When people ask why I don't like NASCAR, I don't talk about overweight zero tech cars (actually, not a bad formula for racing), left only turns (the challenges and focuses are different), or even the lack of standing starts (we all eventually get over that). To me, NASCAR is to racing what the WWF / WWE / whatever is to any sort of fighting art / sport. Not what I'm interested in (which is racing, btw). However, it is VERY accessible to its fans. -Saro |
