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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, September 30, 2011 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hoot...yep!
Blake, thank you.

Gregtonn (couldn't find the Kettle drum Icon )
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, September 30, 2011 - 09:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://jerrypournelle.com/chaosmanor/?p=2227

As far as I know, I'm the only one asking this question.
"We need a terawatt of power to charge electric cars. If we get that power from windmills.... what does taking that energy out of the Weather system do?"
No one I've asked has a clue.
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Gregtonn
Posted on Friday, September 30, 2011 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hoot,

Yes indeed Donald Sutherland as Oddball.
Great movie, great music.
http://youtu.be/AhKnEo9ZyEs
The negetive waves thing comes in at the end of the song.

Blake,
Where did that say anything about zero CO2?
If I had meant take all the CO2 out of the atmosphere I would have said just that.
I was merely pointing out that trying to grow plants for bio-fuels while taking away significant amounts of the very gas that they require for growth is a dumb idea.

Nature has been dealing with high levels of CO2 and many other noxious gases (that is; noxious to humans) long before man came along.

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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, September 30, 2011 - 11:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wouldn't worry about dropping CO2 low enough to affect plant yield. The actual changes in historic times are down in the statistical noise, as far as plant growth goes. Real, but small, so far. It's a big planet.

And I'm all for biofuels. A mutant grass you mow for Diesel? I'll plant 2 acres. The current idiocy of food to fuel has to stop though.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2011 - 12:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not work or child safe.
"Stop the Environment."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2_Ad4cVyks
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Etennuly
Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2011 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake, Veganism for all

I had a '74 Vega, not very green or fuel economy minded for it's size.
















And I am still eating cows, pigs, deer, fish etc.just to keep them from farting if nothing else!

Hey, has anyone ever thought of the weight of water in the oceans and what it does to plate tectonics? If you add and inch of heavy salt water across the billions of square miles of oceans, that weight has to make a difference. If it pushes down harder on the tectonic plates will it not force them to move faster or in different ways that would possibly then cause more natural catastrophes such as earth quakes and volcanos'? Kind of like squeezing a mud pie through your fingers.

The lessening weight of the melting snow and ice of the Arctics as water also would move to the oceans towards the center of the Earth's rotational mass making it larger and could that not change the planets rotational characteristics? Things like speed, wobble, gravitational affects on the Moon. The poles getting lighter would magnify the affect like the proverbial spinning skater extending their arms. Then that stuff would mess up the magnetic poles.

As a species, we better find a way off this dynamic rock before it becomes uninhabitable.
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Hootowl
Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2011 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have often wondered about the energy the windmills take out of the wind, and what effect that might have on weather patterns.

I believe it is an infinitesimally small amount of the total energy available. Look how small a wind mill is compared to the volume of air moving near it.

It's probably no more important to the planetary weather system than adding a couple of parts per million of CO2 to the air over hundreds of years. Huh. Is the cure worse than the disease?

Will the energy collected by solar panels that isn't allowed to warm the Earth cause another ice age?

Quick, somebody get me a government grant to put together an exploratory committee to determine whether this impending catastrophe needs further research. We'll have our meetings in the Virgin Islands. You're all invited. : )
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