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Dako
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok fellow Buellers. It's time to further my edu. I'm thinkin ITT. Either Computer/Electronics Engineering tech, or Information Tech (Computer networking...).
Any thoughts or recommendations?
I ask here because this forum has the largest concentration of people smarter than me!
http://www.itt-tech.edu/campus/school.cfm?lloc_num =24
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You are better off using your money to start a camp fire, and at least that will provide you some warmth.

ITT is a joke, and a legalized scam. Do some reading on the internet before you get suckered in.

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/khyj6/a m_i_the_only_one_in_the_world_that_realized_itt/
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Jim2
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - 07:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check out your local Community College. They will have a similar program without the scam. Less $$ too.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can learn a lot being froggys yo boy
You can teach him Carbs he is venturi illiterate
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Daggar
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - 08:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stay away from ITT. Go to a junior college. Way better education and way cheaper.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a friend that was successfull with an ITT degree, but I bet he would have been just as successful without it. And I know somebody else that used to be a recruiter for ITT, and it was for sure a high pressure sale environment.

Community college is good. A "college of applied science" in a bigger school would be even better. If they are doing it right, its a good solid engineering degree, but with a lot more practical labs and work (and less rocket science). The irony is that 90% of rocket science isn't rocket science. ; )
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Microchop
Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 - 11:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I worked for one guy who only had one restriction on job candidates: no ITT grads. I could elaborate, but that says it all.
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Rsh
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - 02:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I do not know anyone who ever graduated from ITT, but I know several that went to DeVry and graduated, they were all descent, and were knowledgeable in there particular fields
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on a community college.

Mine:
http://www.qcc.edu/
I was able to pay it off with my part time UPS job with only minimal financial help from my parents. (Of course living in their house is not so "minimal")

Just make sure you get PERFECT grades.
No one cares if you get C+ at a community college!
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I will say there is probably a bit of a stigma you have to overcome in technical communities if they know you have an ITT degree. Not saying it's fair or not, but it's often there.

Not so much for community colleges... its hard to tell good ones from bad ones, so people probably assume it's as good as any other college, and not a good as the ones with really good reputations (which are likely not entirely deserved).
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Dako
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow. Looks like the people have spoken! Thanks for all the honest advice. I guess I need to look around my area and see what's available...
Might even run down to Youngstown State and see what the deal is there.
Thanks again everyone!

Next ?... What kind of degree should I look into? Computer science? Information Systems? Electrical Engineering (computers)?...
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

any of the above.talk to councilor at the school and tell them what job you want and they should be able advise what track you need.
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Slaughter
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wouldn't try Electrical Engineering unless you really have a love for math and physics.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

EET (Electrical Engineering Technology) might work, its a lot less physics, and a lot more letting magic smoke out.

Microcontrollers (an intersection between software and hardware) are stupid fun for me... I probably can't make enough programming them, but I wish I could.

CS is a 900lb gorilla in terms of the jobs out there, but at the same time, it is becoming a commodity, so you are competing with India and China, and they work really cheap.

I'm in CS, but I'm a security guy, which is one of the few growth / premium fields left in CS. And it takes a particular (kinda warped) mindset. I don't know if that will last, but I'd say its one of your best bets in the CS field right now... the threats are adaptive and aggressive so the job is never "done".
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Drkside79
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on DeVry all three friend who went there benefited greatly.
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Thumper74
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - 05:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There's a Family Guy skit about DeVry or ITT, I'm at work and can't do Youtube...

I did some research about ITT... I decided against it because of negative reviews and I felt like I twas buying a car when I talked to an entrance counselor.

My local community college is one of the best in the state and I'm currently going for Electrical Engineering and it's way too much fun to be school.
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Dako
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm alright with the math and physics, my brain already works that way now.
So is the CS field more programming and such? I like fixing things, mechanical or otherwise. But I get bored once the challenge of learning,or problem solving wears off with "mastering" the job. That's why I'm looking into these fields, they seem to offer the type of ever-evolving challenge I need.
+ The pay aint too shabby either...
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Jim2
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's been awhile for me but CS at the university level is programming and interpretive languages more than two (Java, Perl, C++, UNIX). Learn operating systems, I don't mean how to use them I mean the nuts and bolts behind them, maybe write your own. Data structure theories and writing them from scratch. I took Electrical Engineering Technology at the Community College level and I feel that really taught me to think and approach things logically. Digital electronics theory and application. A/C and D/C fundamentals and applications. Tons of Math (not my strong point). Drafting(would be CAD/modeling now). Put them together and learn to design what you want as an integrated system.

Like I said it's been awhile and things have probably changed a bit.
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Two_seasons
Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2011 - 10:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

EET is the way to go.

I'm not sure you've thought about it, but working on US Navy ships or submarines as an field engineer is what I used to do. Always traveling, always busy.

Many opportunities!
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Dako
Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2011 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Big thanks to everyone here. I think Engineering is the route I'll pursue.
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