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Drkside79
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok so the thread is different then the title but hey i have Dylan stuck in my head...

Anyway perhaps someone can explain this to me. Their is a relatively strong Cat 3 hurricane bearing down on the eastern coast. Can someone tell me why people decide to wait these things out? I just don't get it. Ask anyone in the Midwest if they knew a tornado was going to hit their house whether they would leave and the answer would be yes 99% of the time. (unfortunately Tornadoes don't give us three day warnings)

Anyway please explain if possible.
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Fed
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV9yB5PyI1w&feature =related
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 11:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tornadoes and hurricanes are very different storms. Also just the other day they weren't even sure what side of FL it was going to go on. From what they are saying now it looks like it may hit the east as it heads north. This will put the strongest winds far out over the ocean while the eye makes landfall and the storm starts to diminish. It probably wont be all that bad in reality. Flooding tends to be the worst problem and not everybody is where flooding will be an issue. For those that are where flooding may be an issue, it would be very prudent to get out of Dodge. Otherwise many structures will hold up to a Cat 3 hurricane with little problem. The funny thing is that many of the yacht owners will take their boats out to ride the storm out in the open ocean rather let them get destroyed in the harbor. You really have to evaluate your specific situation and determine what is your best option for that situation. You can't really expect to have everyone from SC to NY to leave the coast. People manage to survive hurricanes on little islands in the Caribbean all the time. For the most part it just takes a little bit of common sense and analysis of your specific situation. BTW on many of these little Islands the safest places can be the beachfront hotels. You just don't want to hang out on the first floor. DAMHIK.
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Britchri10
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I live in NE Florida. I've been here 19 years. We do not evacuate unless ordered to do so by the local/fed gov't. We stay for two main reasons. By the time it is time for us to leave all of I-95, I-10, I-75 etc' are practically at a standstill due to people evacuating from further down the Peninsula. Our house is a whole 5' above sea level, 7 miles from the coast & is separated from the coast by the Intracoastal Waterway. We are not in the 50 year flood zone. The house is 16 years old and is built to withstand winds up to 100 mph. If we chose to leave we would probably be sitting in a truck on an interstate with two dogs & a 12 year old. We would rather ride it out at home than risk being marooned somewhere without adequate access to "survival' equipment. We have food, water & shelter @ our home to last c2 weeks. We can subsist w/o power or a roof for that length of time. (tents, tarps, propane gas grill etc')
Also, we both work in Healthcare. My wife is expected to work during a storm/hurricane situation, I am expected to be available to help w/cleanup etc' immediately after the event.
As stated above, it's a personal evaluation of our situation but we would rather be on our property than stuck in traffic with a group of under prepared strangers.
Chris C
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I do question why when a coastal city that lies below sea level was threatened with a major hurricane there never was a mandatory evacuation.
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Britchri10
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can't speak for other State's but Florida (at least my area) is really hot on mandatory evacuation notices & you had better obey them or you will be forcibly removed by LE if necessary. This may have come to pass post Katrina but I work closely with my hospital's Emergency/Disaster Planning & Preparation Department & they are really on the ball & networked city/county wide.
Chris C
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Whistler
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Living all of my life within 40 to 120 miles inland along the Texas gulf coast I've been through some interesting hurricanes. Can be an amazing amount of wind, rain, and high water for a while although in my experience it's the time after the hurricane that can the most difficult. No power. For days and even weeks. Prepare for the wind and water but be especially ready to ride out the power outages. Please keep your wits about you during the cleanup too. The time to get everything ready is now. You folks be careful. We'll be thinking about you all.
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Fahren
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 01:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ha Ha - Dylan. That's cool. Time for another listening dose.
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Rkc00
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well this one so far looks like it might take the same path as Gloria in 1985. That would put it right over my house again. I am inland enough not to have a flood problem. Lets hope for the best but plan for the worst. Need to clean up the yard of furniture and loose stuff that can become airborne. Pictures to follow if I have power.
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Drkside79
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sifo,

I realize the Tornados are far more intense and it is localized.

Also i was unclear. I was more referring to people in flood zones that will become potential victims to a storm surge. Oh and a cat 3 is capable of destroying a wood home. Not saying it would but if a storm shutter fails and the pressure becomes builds inside say goodbye to your roof.
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Drkside79
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

better Gloria than the Long Island Express back in 38.

Either way i pray for all of your safety both that of you and your loved ones and that of your property.
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Fast1075
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 02:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I live 55 miles inland on the "ridge" area of Florida...my house is 165 feet above sea level...I have lived in Florida since 1956...trust me, if a cat 2 or 3 comes "eye over you", you are in for a ride.

If you are not in a flood zone, the biggest danger is from the imbedded tornadoes...there are LOTS of tornadoes inside hurricanes...as said earlier, in the northern hemisphere, the strongest winds and heaviest rains are to the northwest of the eye....We are getting erratic rain bands today and it is a bit breezy, but that is all we will get unless it takes a hard turn to the west.

Since the last bunch of bad storms, the trees have once again overgrown a lot of power lines...if we have a good blow, we could be without power for some time...last time we had a hard blow, I was without power for nearly 3 weeks...I hate to think of how expensive it would be to run a generator with gas at 3.65 a gallon.

I recently moved into a new apartment that will handle just about anything...armored windows, poured reinforced walls, welded beam roof trusses and bolted down double 5/8" roof deck.

And if I lose power, my new A/C unit will run on 1800 watts.
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

fun fact about hurricanes the eye wall spawns tornados.... storm surge if you're in the area, wow. exploding houses due to pressure dif's are interesting too. like Brit if i am ordered mandatory evac then i will leave otherwise i am going to hang ten. course i am much much further from teh ocean about 20 miles by sky
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



(Message edited by americanmadexb on August 25, 2011)
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Whistler
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just in case you need it, hurricane preparedness information.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/HAW2/english/disaster_prev ention.shtml
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Rkc00
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fahren
Lets hope it takes a hard turn to the east. Looks like I will not be making it out by you on Sunday. Might stop out on Saturday for the morning. Stay safe.
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Whatever
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You would think when you are at work, and there is an armed guard coming around to tell you to get in the basement, you would get in the basement... but we had one guy who goes out in the parking lot to take a look at the tornado... it touched down less than a half of a mile from our building. Some people are dumb. Others, like Chris figure to take a calculated risk and actually know what they are doing.
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Britchri10
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I worked in Arkansas we had a tornado approaching my workplace. The boss invited me to go onto the 8th floor roof of the main building to film it. I went to the basement!
He didn't get any film but he didn't die either. You make your choices in this life & you have to live with the results!
Chris C
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Dfishman
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have stayed for just about every hurricane since '83 here on Hatteras Island.Know where to be & how to prepare makes a lot of difference on survival.My place is in the woods a quarter mile from the ocean & a quarter mile from the sound.The sound flooded my yard during Emily('93) and came up to the bottom of my floor joists.I had pine trees on the roof and lost 2 vehicles to flooding.That was the first year in my place.Now I know where to park the vehicles & I don't have any trees that can fall on the house.In 2003 Isabel hit & the storm surge wiped out miles of dunes.Ocean overwash was in certain place.My place is protected from ocean overwash by the largest dunes on the Island & a high ridge full of live oaks.
Having said all that.I have boarded up & cleaned & I'm leaving.Not to some boring motel just inland.No I'm headed to the blue ridge mountains with my van packed(2 bikes) & plan on some riding
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Whatever
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Donnie, I am glad you are getting out of there. You never know when some freaky thing might happen. Let us all know when you are out of harm's way when you get to the mountains. Maybe next year we can start a Hatteras Buell Rally, complete with fishing!
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Dfishman
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll be leaving when my old prostate wakes me up to pee(about 2 am)So we should be in Patrick Springs by 9-10am.A little work on the property then off to Willville to set up the tent.Then I will start working on the sides of my tires instead of the middle.
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Billyo
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I plan on spending what hurricane there is in Bristow, Virginia at the Buffett concert.
Should be interesting. Hope the ponchos hold up!
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Fahren
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Staying put in Montauk. It looks to be only cat 1 by the time it gets here.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My orders are to report for duty starting 7:00pm Saturday ...... Ahhhhhh, the life of a transmission lineman. I don't do all-nighters as nicely as I used too
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Ducxl
Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 12:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I salute you

It 'll be Cat 1 once here in NE .Easy to ride (no pun) ouout.
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F_skinner
Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 09:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I report to work 1800 Saturday.... 12 hour mid shifts...

I am done when DOD support is done.
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Oldog
Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 09:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Be careful all you northeasterners perhaps it will change course and go out to sea,
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Whatever
Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All my hummingbirds have dissapeared.

It is really interesting how animals know what is coming. Beautiful day today. Should rain a lot tomorrow.

Time to get alot of work (job apps and studying chemistry) done.
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Fltwistygirl
Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Be careful all you northeasterners perhaps it will change course and go out to sea"

my sentiments exactly.

We Central Floridians got plain ol' lucky with Irene. A few rogue rain bands, a nice breeze, and lower humidity. Was actually quite pleasant riding yesterday.

Be safe, y'all.
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Davegess
Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court, you be careful out there.
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