| Author | Message | ||
     Fahren |
Jon Stewart - hilarous as usual: http://goldsilver.com/video/indecision-2012-corn-p olled-edition-ron-paul-and-the-top-tier/ | ||
| Mtjm2 |
 SAD BUT TRUE !!! Im not a big supporter but DAMN ! Thaks Fahren | ||
| B00stzx3 |
The establishment would never let someone with ideas contrary to business as usual make it! I'm surprised Pelosi/Bohener even let Mr. Paul be mentioned on TV.... | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Ron Paul's a wack job. His foreign policy is a joke. Progressives hope that Ron Paul runs as a third party candidate. | ||
| Honolulu_blue_esq |
BUMP. I think everyone who talks politics on this site needs to watch this. | ||
| Honolulu_blue_esq |
Ft bstrd: I bet you loved Sarah "I can See Russia" Palin. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Ft bstrd: I bet you loved Sarah "I can See Russia" Palin. "GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you? PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska." In the middle of the Bering Strait are two small, sparsely populated islands: Big Diomede, which sits in Russian territory, and Little Diomede, which is part of the United States. At their closest, these two islands are a little less than two and a half miles apart, which means that, on a clear day, you can definitely see one from the other. (To see the view of Big Diomede from Little Diomede, check out this webcam.) The Diomede Islands are often blanketed by persistent fog, which makes visibility difficult. On a clear day, though, a person standing at sea level can see a little less than three miles across the ocean. http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/Palin --Hillary-Open/656281 What part of her statement is incorrect? | ||
| Mtjm2 |
Hbe , REALLY ?? | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
The top republicans in the running are the equivalent to those British actors US infomercial companies pay to pitch their products. Just like Obama the candidate with the best sponsors wins and just like Obama not alot will change when they get elected. Perry the former gore supporter is oohing and ahhing conservatives right now with his religiousness and love of guns. I don't trust him. Ron Paul is so nuts I truly believe he would try to overhaul the system like it needs. The big sponsors from both sides can't let that happen. | ||
| Blake |
I like Sarah Palin. Most folks who misrepresent her and propagate lies about her don't like her so much. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Or lack the intellectual capacity to do a simple Google search. | ||
| Sifo |
The whole point of the whole "you can see Russia" statement has been completely lost unfortunately. It is because of this proximity to our cold war enemy that the Governor of AK is treated differently than the other 49 Governors with higher security clearance and inclusion on more defense briefings. Thank you MSM for completely destroying what should have been a worthwhile factor in choosing a candidate. Having said that Palin was a weak pick in a very weak field. She can stir the pot well, but I would like to think that our country can do better. | ||
| Whatever |
Well... how can you compete with "2$ a Gallon Gas" ? Yes, yes and I will vote to return to 13 colonies too... (Message edited by Whatever on August 18, 2011) | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
I agree that was stupid of bachman to say. I liked bachman the congresswoman more than bachman the campaign machine. | ||
| Daggar |
Ron Paul has got my vote. | ||
| Reindog |
Daggar, Then you play right into Obama's hands. Don't split the anti-Obama vote when the time comes. This is how Clinton got elected. Ron Paul is interesting but he tilts at windmills. There is 0% chance of him being elected. Zero. | ||
| Daggar |
Oh, I know he won't get elected, but he's the only Republican that I'd vote for. If he doesn't win the nomination, I'll vote Libertarian. For the most part, Republican and Democrat politicians are the same, at the end of the day. | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
No more lukewarm rinos. Ill take another term of the bank bought speech reader if the repubs want to keep shoveling the shit at us. | ||
| Reindog |
Then you should consider that the President nominates Supreme Court justices and can veto bills passed by Congress. I would take ANY of the Republican field over Obama. Why wouldn't you? The folks keep arguing about the importance of compromise. Libertarians will get more of what they want and will get closer to their ultimate goal under a Conservative president rather than Obama. In essence, why would you give your vote to Obama? I have friends like you and I find this attitude puzzling and troubling. | ||
| Honolulu_blue_esq |
Reindog: I could be wrong, but the general feel I get from your comments is that you like or at least respect the tea party for refusing to compromise on its principals. Why wouldn't you similarly support a voter who won't compromise on his/her candidate? Ft.: What did I say about Palin that leads you to believe I didn't know the question asked or the answer given? | ||
| Swampy |
Ron Paul is a danger to the democracy, but he is a hero to the republic. I am also a firm believer that the ONLY reason ANY of the political talk shows exist are simply to sell commercials, that is it, period. If a Ron Paul house and senate were ever elected, there would be no story. They are nothing but Patriots for Profit, 25 years ago they were Liberals for Profit. It does not matter, the motivation is the same. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Ft.: What did I say about Palin that leads you to believe I didn't know the question asked or the answer given? You brought up her statement as a pejorative. One would only utilize her statement it as such if it was believed that she indeed said "she could see Russia from her house". If you believed that her statement was factually accurate, why mention it? It would be like calling her Sarah "the sky is blue" Palin. It would make little sense. Or were you aware that her statement was factually accurate but wanted to continue to propagate the popular progressive myth that he said she could "see Russia from her house"? | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
All third party candidates are "take your ball and go home" types as are the people who vote for them. If you are serious about a third party candidate, work to change the election process requiring that a candidate must win more than 50% of the popular vote in order to be elected. Otherwise there is a run off. In 1992, Perot won exactly ZERO electoral votes. He siphoned off 19% of the popular vote. The majority of those votes would have gone to Bush. Clinton won 43% of the popular vote. Bush had 37% and Perot had 19%. Perot had a snowball's chance in hell (about the same odds as Ron Paul). His entry into the race as a third party candidate guaranteed Clinton's election. We saw very similar although not as striking results in the 2000 election. Nader managed to steal about 3,000,000 popular votes from Gore. The result was 271 electoral votes for Bush 266 electoral votes for Gore. Those 3,000,000 votes would have been enough to win Gore the Presidency. If you vote third party, regardless of what that party is, you are pissing into your own face. | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
I'd rather they get on with what they want which is fundamental change rather than keep pecking. You saw what happened to Americans when they forced obamacare on us. Let them continue on the same path and see how many more Americans come out of their daze. | ||
| Notpurples2 |
Gotta love third party candidates. The Rep Party and the republican news machine are ignoring Ron Paul for exactly the reason mentioned above, he'll split the vote. He'll probably still end up splitting the vote if he runs with or without big news coverage. It happens with both parties. Remember 2000? Ralph Nader. I hope Bush sent him a nice thank you letter. Nader's votes in florida or new hampshire would have given Gore the electoral votes to win. | ||
| Honolulu_blue_esq |
Ft. "You brought up her statement as a pejorative. One would only utilize her statement it as such if it was believed that she indeed said "she could see Russia from her house"." Where in my comment did you see anything about Sarah Palin's house? My favorite part about Palin's statement is that people defend it as a reasonable, meaningful answer. There would be a thread on this forum 97 pages long ripping on Obama if he said something like this, and you know it. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
I am surprised i didnt see anything about Obama saying that he has it worse than Lincoln..... I'll say this, I really like Bachman. . . . . . Turner Overdrive  | ||
| Moxnix |
Yes, 3rd parties are just a bothersome sideshow. Ron Paul is a libertarian who belongs to the Republican party where he can do his thing for the constituents who keep reelecting him. I like him because he understands how the system works and broadcasts continually how the system fails. The media marginalizes him, but even the press, sometimes, believes what he says is true. They make their living on the political coverage, burying as much truth as they tell. | ||
| Moxnix |
Ron Paul knows that a non-gold backed paper money is the bridge from politics to reality. His peers on the Hill are having trouble with that historic fact. | ||
| Reindog |
Good point and the answer is a matter of degree. Sometimes compromise is possible and leads to a win-win but sometime compromise is not possible because it contradicts fundamental principles and leads to a lose situation. Ever since Lyndon Johnson's War on Poverty (and arguably before that), America has tended towards increasing the size and power of the Federal government. Although well intentioned, it is killing us. As Fatty said, this time we are going to cut first and then raise revenue later. I believe this road has never been taken and it requires an uncompromising position simply because the Monster is bloated and demands to be fed. If the Tea Party had caved early on, the seed of the growing revolution inside American's head would not have happened. Now, virtually EVERY American is more aware of our economic problems because the Tea Party has taken a hard line. This is a good thing. A Libertarian who compromises by voting for the Republican candidate, will further his own agenda even if it is not at the rate that is hoped for. The Conservative president will appoint Conservative judges and can prod Congress into passing Conservative laws. This nudges us towards, not away, from the Libertarian agenda. This too, is a good thing. Keep 'em coming. If just one Badweb'r slowly wakes up to the importance of Conservative ideas, then all this bantering on an Internet outpost will not have been in vain. But don't forget to love your Buell because that is why we are really here. Go take a look at the Yosemite pix I posted from our XB12XP Buell Adventure and someone buy my 06 Uly because it needs a new home as it is a great bike. |
