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B00stzx3
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So I'm trying to order some touchup paint for my Buell. No problem if it were stock, but the bike was custom painted few years ago. I can't remember who painted it, but I do recall the painter emailing me saying that he believes they used "Phantom Gray/Grey" paint on it. The bike looks black to me. I've searched Phantom grey and found both actual gray looking cars with that paint name and then black looking cars with that paint name (old Honda Civics). Does anyone know which variation would be the "black" looking one? I was looking for a paint code to order then touchup paint but am stumped. Attached is a picture of my bike for paint reference



I also have been looking for a local paint shop that uses spectrometer to perfectly match the paint but none sell just touchup paint, it's always for full paint jobs!

(Message edited by b00stzx3 on August 15, 2011)
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Etennuly
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 02:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you find a spectrometer that makes perfect color matches I want to see it.

Have you tried some local body/paint shops? An independent shop with a color mixing system would be your best bet.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

or just don't scratch it : )
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Stirz007
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Most automotive paint supply places will custom mix as little as a pint. Bring your part into the store - a lot of these guys are more than willing to help you out. I like the Centauri (DuPont product) single-stage stuff for most applications. Goes on easy, can apply multiple coats at once and it levels nicely. HOK if you have the bucks, but mucho many steps for a paint job...

I swear that looks like gloss black in the photo......
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86129squids
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks black with a twinge of blue/purple somehow...

I was gonna say holler at Vern, but...



My solution: Find a kewl sticker, apply as needed.
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86129squids
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey Boo- how far back does your email memory go?
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A spectrometer will get it pretty close. From there a good paint guy can fine tune the tint if necessary. You will be in for buying a pint though and it probably needs a clear coat too. That's going to be 2 pints of paint for a touch up that if you don't know what you're doing will probably look worse than any nicks or scratches you currently have.

I went through this on a black Sportster fender. True black is easy to match. That was the good news for me. I had gravel scratches down to bare metal though. I carefully filled the scratches with black base coat with multiple coats and wet sanded it smooth with 600 paper. Then brushed a couple of coats of clear over the area extending each coat slightly further to keep the edge feathered. Then it got wet sanded down to 2000 grit and polished. It looked great except you could tell the difference between the new clear coat and the old clear coat. It was real easy to spot as a repair and looked terrible. I then sprayed the entire fender with a new clear coat and the result was flawless. It was worth the hassle to me on this fender just because I saved the pinstriping that was less than a 1/4 inch from severe scratches.

Ask yourself if you know what you are doing / do you have the experience, before you start down a road that may make things worse. Amazing things can be done with paint both good and bad. When it goes bad, it can really be ugly. Just saying.

I'll be more than happy to answer any other questions within my knowledge base. Paints have changed a lot since I've painted professionally though. I had to do a lot of new learning for a couple projects I've done in the last few years.
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U4euh
Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 09:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is it metallic? sorry my crappy monitor I can't tell. The reason I ask is because my Z1000 stock paint is called Phantom Black. You really don't notice the metallic flake unless the sun is right on it. If so I'm sure I could find the part number from the local shop, hell I bet they could order a can of touch up.
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B00stzx3
Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 11:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the help all! Figured spectrometer would be best bet, but seems best idea to go to a paint store even if you have to buy more. Will most likely use it!!! It looks like a metallic black, might try getting gloss black and the phantom gray touch up paints, try both and see what looks best. Sifo - kinda scared to screw it up a bit, had surprisingly good luck with Langka Paint Chip kit. Haven't tried wetsanding yet but heard alotta good stuff about it. Might have to go the respray route as you did.

Thanks again folks!
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The hard part with wet sanding is knowing when to stop. It's real easy to turn a small nick into a big spot of primer showing.
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B00stzx3
Posted on Friday, August 19, 2011 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, I'm going to have to have my old man show me how, after of course cramming some Autopia posts and youtube vids in my brain. Thanks again for everyone's help! There seems to be too much variation with what "Phantom Grey" is among the imports (can't rely on imports for nothing lol), going to go with Midnight Black toughup paint. Shouldn't look to bad, just some scratches. Thanks again all!

I owe ya'll beers at next years Homecoming..
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