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     Cataract2 |
Ok, background. I was trying to replace the head gasket due to a small oil leak coming from it outside the engine. Well, I pulled the timing belt off to remove the head of course and now I'm in the process of putting it back together. I have attempted to ensure the engine was at TDC, but I can not find the area on the flywheel case that is the inspection plug to see the markings and I'm not certain where on this engine that is. I did ensure the #1 cylinder for the cams was closed and from what I can tell the injector pump is lined up for that as well. Anyways, because I'm a dumb @$$ I need some help. I can't get the engine to start. It cranks, but won't catch. I've bled the injectors and there is verified fuel going to each. I'm thinking it's timing, but if you think otherwise please let me know. Also, does anyone know of a good instruction manual that I can view online for getting the timing belt timing correct just so I can rule that out? I like pictures showing where things are. I'm going to go get a beer now. (Beer and pizza for me.) | ||
| Xdigitalx |
http://forums.vwvortex.com/forumdisplay.php?22-TDI -and-Diesel-Forum http://forums.tdiclub.com/ | ||
| Brother_in_buells |
the vw's have also timing marks on the pulley side (passenger side)and a little punch or stripe on/in the engine block ,but you have to remove all the belt covers and clean that area to see it. this is how it looks on the flywheel side  | ||
| Cataract2 |
Ug, the way that plastic cover is on there I'm ready to cut the POS off. | ||
| Brother_in_buells |
yes that sounds the simplest ,but probably the crankshaft seal go,s south if you let it off because all the road crap this is how it looks on the pulley side http://www.problemcar.nl/viewtopic.php?id=61760 it is no diesel picture but it gives the idea right!? | ||
| Cataract2 |
Throwing in the towel. This is the first time I've had to admit that I can't get this. Talked with my landlord's sister and found out that she takes her and her parents cars to a shop right here in town. Going to talk with this tomorrow and see if they can help me on this or even just get the damned thing to run. | ||
| Cataract2 |
Well, talked with the mechanic today. What amazed me was instead of him doing it he printed out the instructions and lent me the tools needed. So I did the work and the car is running again. Although I did find that both the crank and cam were out of time as well. Kinda wonder if I should pull the head and check the valves or not. I don't hear anything out of wack... Going to get this guy a case of beer for a thanks to him. I asked if he would want any cash for lending me the tools and he said no. | ||
| Hootowl |
"I don't hear anything out of wack... " Do you know whether it is an interference engine? Just a hunch, but I think diesels get their compression from their long strokes, not tiny combustion chambers. Plus, since it's a low RPM engine, the valve lift is probably pretty low. Not a diesel guy (though I do own one) so again, just a hunch. Probably isn't too hard to find out if it is an interference type engine though. Ask your mechanic buddy when you drop off the beer  | ||
| Hughlysses |
Glad you got it figured out. I'm almost certain that a VW TDI is an interference engine. OTOH- if his is running now, I'd say odds are good he didn't bend anything. | ||
| Hootowl |
I did a bit of googling, and all I get is conflicting information. The VW forums say some are and some aren't, and when people ask about a specific model, the answer is "take your timing belt off and find out". Found a site that lists all interference engines from 1970 to present, but the VW section is vague. It doesn't list the diesel models at all. Sorry. Maybe your mechanic will know. Does your service manual say anything? | ||
| Hughlysses |
Even TDIforum.com (my normal go-to site) isn't 100% certain about the subject, even in the FAQ section on this model of TDI:
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| Aesquire |
Glad you got it fixed.  Just got my '09 TDI Sportwagen back from the shop..$500 poorer. While on 2 week camping trip, mice moved into the engine, snug under the plastic cover and ate my wiring. What flabbergasts ME is that..... a. the dang thing actually RAN with the damage, and got to the dealer. Felt like 15 ft. lbs. of torque. Vibrated like a mule under load, and dropped to 20 mph going up steep hills. But RAN. b The Freaking mice were still there! The mechanic took video! 5 live mice ( & 2 dead ) and packed nest stuff filled the underside of the plastic cover. Can't believe the little buggers didn't run. | ||
| Hootowl |
Or get cooked. |
