| Author | Message | ||
     Honolulu_blue_esq |
Oops. I must have been excited to post that. | ||
| Reindog |
HBE, if you are looking to be banned, then my guess is that you will most likely get your wish. I have mostly enjoyed reading your posts so I hope you decide to stick around. You might want to consider ceasing your "double dog dare tactics". Stick around. | ||
| Ulyranger |
Being aware and informed is not paranoid. Indifference and ignorance lead to a place I don't want to visit. It is not a far stretch to realize that a relatively small scale catastrophe can lead to all sorts of mayhem (read: crisis that must be taken advantage of..). Modern western humans are dependent in nature, not providers. Our "leaders" are Progressive (notice I didn't write Dem/Rep) in nature, meaning they've got a major "Dad knows best" attitude. Chaos is just the next ??? crisis away.......and choas must be controlled at some point.... The class warfare, haves vs. have nots, Dems vs. Reps, Cons vs. Libs, Big Corp vs. Big Union, etc.... is all just window dressing for consumption by the sheeple. Been done before, it's a well proven formula unfortunately. City, have a close family member that's stomped some of the same turf. Again unfortunately, I fear the indicators are obvious to those paying attention. Those mocking being prepared are the very same that are the first with their hand out after the hurricane/flood/insert crisis here. I grow, harvest and store as much as I can to provide my family. I am far from paranoid, but my family is as prepared as can be for whatever comes next. Whether that comes in the form of a major weather event or ?? Living in the country helps. Helping your community starts in your household. You cannot help your neighbor if your household is in shambles(and this goes well beyond food/water....). If all else fails, I've always got my cabin in the mountains off the grid and very difficult to access...... | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I'm not banned. What does that tell you? That you haven't become annoying enough. Yet. It's ok, we've seen your trajectory before. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Hell what have you done to make your local community better? Maybe you havent gathered from my posts, I am not a community organizer - nor am I a fan there of. What have you done to protect yourself? Can you survive 3 days from a natural disaster? Can you survive 21 days without food, money, sanitation? Do you think that your situation is better to count on someone else in their preparations rather than taking matters into our own hands ? That is exactly the notion that gets you in front of FEMA; and wondering why aid isnt coming, or coming fast enough, or quantity enough. nope. Past preparations predict piss poor performance but cheer up, I will leave a box of tin foil hats ; where should I forward them to? | ||
| Spiderman |
Maybe you havent gathered from my posts, I am not a community organizer - nor am I a fan there of. That's right it is easier to run than help or fix... What have you done to protect yourself? Can you survive 3 days from a natural disaster? Can you survive 21 days without food, money, sanitation? Do you think that your situation is better to count on someone else in their preparations rather than taking matters into our own hands ? More than you could ever be aware, the benefits of having an Ex Navy seal as a Scout leader and a family of military, But I don't feel the need to brag or boast. I rely on no one. But neither do I fear anyone coming to steal me land. If I did I would move to Eastern Europe where the toilet paper is a plenty! | ||
| Pwnzor |
I won't discuss what I have stockpiled or where it's located, other than to say it's sufficient for me and mine to last a minimum of 45 days of total self containment. Anybody with less than 2 weeks' worth of such supplies is really not thinking straight, in my opinion. | ||
| Honolulu_blue_esq |
Pwnzor: "Anybody with less than 2 weeks' worth of such supplies is really not thinking straight, in my opinion." Awesome. Reminds me of a conversation I had with my brother-in-law a few years back. He was telling me about his evacuation plan and how he has a months worth of supplies stockpiled, etc. He went on and on about his food and water and medicine. When he finished I asked him: "Who else knows about this?" He replied, "a few people." My response: "Do they have more guns than you?" My stockpile now consists of ammunition and firearms, a bunch of gasoline, a "go sack" with a week of rations for my family, a truck that is fueled daily, and map of back roads to my brother-in-laws. | ||
| Blake |
Justin (Honolulu), So, lets play with your little attempted political slant on the Bible: I don't "play" with scripture or try to slant it. I apply it to real life. The left is consumed with convincing the "poor" that they are entitled to have that which they have not earned, to covet what their neighbor has. "If everyone would abide by the "thou shalt not covet" rule, the capitalists would be out of business. Their entire existence has become contingent upon convincing people that if they covet something bad enough, all they have to do is work really really hard and earn it for themselves! It's downright evil." You have a point. Yet your use of the term "capitalist" is typically naive. The term "capital" simply refers to money or assets. What you seem to be attacking is free enterprise, the idea of folks trading one thing of value for another, each party happy that they are receiving what they view as something of higher value. People who grow food, brew beer, build houses, build motorcycles, make clothing, repair vehicles, look after our health may all be classified as participants in free enterprise. To not be a capitalist, one would need to be a communist or a hermit. You'll have a tough time convincing wise folks that such a path is preferable. As to the commandment to not covet, it surely applies to unhealthy preoccupation with "keeping up with the Joneses" or the use of unethical means to dupe others into trade as you seem to imply. It doesn't apply to people conducting wholesome and fair trade, what we call free enterprise. The Bible is absolutely clear on that. If you wish to argue otherwise, you'll need to show scriptural evidence in support of such a notion. I find none. Seek truth. Your behavior here has included traits of a troll. You've now seen fit to attack me personally, calling me a "fascist". I guess that too must make you "giggle like a school girl." Have fun with that. It's a queer affectation in my view, but whatever trips your trigger I guess. How about you stick to discussion of issues and avoid the personal attacks. Better yet, study up on the Constitution and the Bible. They are both deserving of far better understanding than you've exhibited. (Message edited by Blake on August 11, 2011) | ||
| Honolulu_blue_esq |
Blake: I'm not sure capitalists and capitalism mean what you think they mean. For the record, I wasn't attacking anything. Just pointing out how easy it is to manipulate apolitical things into political ones, as you like to do. Turning a biblical quote into an attack on liberalism? Give me a break. Also, you calling someone else out for "personal attacks" is laughable, and I'm pretty sure the objective masses would agree with that. I don't have to go far to find some of your best work, but it pops up on almost every political thread I've ever seen you post on eventually: "Justin (Homolulu), who likes to imagine himself a giggling school girl, says..." "I guess that too must make you "giggle like a school girl." Have fun with that. It's queer affectation in my view, but whatever trips your trigger I guess. " | ||
| Pwnzor |
Honolulu, your point is well taken. As I mentioned above, I'll not discuss where my stockpile(s) are located, nor will I discuss my defense capabilities. I'll leave it at this, those who approach peacefully and pass my scrutiny will be given what aid I can afford to spare. I am a Christian and will aid my fellow man... Approach me with anything other than palms outstretched, and a different outcome is inevitable. I wish everyone well in the coming difficulties. They are, in fact, coming. The breadth and scope of the situation remains to be seen. | ||
| Blake |
Are you saying that you don't like to imagine yourself giggling like a schoolgirl? You've stated that you've done so more than once. So it's not an attack just an observation of your actual behavior. As to your point, it's not so much "liberalism" but the long corrupted communism in disguise, what is now called "Progressivism" that promote covetousness. Three simple facts. First, Progressivism absolutely seeks to impart feelings of entitlement, to convince people that they ought to have that which they have not earned. Examples of that are not difficult to find and are plentiful. Second, feeling entitled to that which one has not earned, to take from ones neighbors for oneself is absolutely covetous. Third, God commands that we shall not covet anything of our neighbors. It has nothing to do with politics other than being a shoe that happens to fit one particular political ideology. The one constantly preaching victimhood and entitlement. The one that seeks to redistribute, take from some to give to others, theft. | ||
| Reindog |
Blake, you forgot to add, "Who is John Galt?".  This thread is awesome. It is going in about five different directions simultaneously. | ||
| Honolulu_blue_esq |
"Are you saying that you don't like to imagine yourself giggling like a schoolgirl?" I don't imagine it, I actually do it. But you took that and turned it into: "homolulu" "likes to imagine himself a giggling school girl" "It's queer affectation" Are you really going to take the position that those are not attempts at personal insult? You have no right to call anyone else out for personal attacks. Others here. You do not. Your hands are not clean, and they haven't been for a very long time. | ||
| Pwnzor |
I can't wait for the day that somebody tries to covet my MRE's. | ||
| Blake |
"Homolulu", Oops, that one was unintentional. LOL. Spell check was obviously no help. "Queer" as in weird, odd, bizarre. When you state that another man makes you giggle like a schoolgirl, that is just kinda queer in my view. "Insult" is a strong word. More a little friendly gigging. Not quite like calling someone a "fascist". That's downright hateful. Nice thing for me here is I get to help decide when the line between good-natured ribbing versus hateful attack is crossed. My "hands are not clean and haven't been for a very long time"?  You who blatantly misrepresent the Constitution and biblical scripture are in a position to make that judgement? And how would you possibly know; you've only been here for a little over seven months. If you feel personally attacked, take it up with another custodian. They are here to look out for the integrity of the forum, no matter who might be threatening it. I can't think of two instances where I've ignored or refused to abide by the consensus of my fellow custodians. Stop the crying and whining. Take action. Relentless crying and whining are traits of a troll. You have a choice to make. Either you may enjoin in thoughtful discussion here, or you may continue down the troll's path. It's entirely your choice. Ever call a judge with whom you disagree a "fascist" in his court? Internet bravado, another trait of a troll. | ||
| Blake |
Matt, Where's the best source for MREs? | ||
| Blake |
I'm thinking for home a sealed barrel of individual packages of dried beans and rice (with accompanying supply of Tabasco sauce) and a tank of drinking water would not be unwise to have on hand. | ||
| Honolulu_blue_esq |
Blake: I'm not going to take anything up with another custodian, because I don't give a damn what you call me or what you think of me. But for you to pretend that you don't engage in personal insult on this forum on a consistent basis is downright comical. You calling someone else out for "personal insult" is hypocritical to the umpth degree. It is your calling card. And why is calling someone a fascist so much worse than calling them a communist? How many times have I read you call the liberals communists? Own what you are buddy boy. | ||
| Blake |
Informative | ||
| Reindog |
MREs were originally called "Meals Refused by Ethiopians" when they were first introduced. How are they today? They were funky when I was a firefighter working out of Sequoia National Forest stationed in Kernville, CA. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
stocks of water will get 'stale' a cap full of bleach for about every 10 gallons. the MREs were available from Cheaper than Dirt .com but surprisingly, the Nutrisystem boxes will arrive just as quickly with more variety (just remember that you probably wont have a microwave to use, but over a camp fire, they are better than many of the MRE availabilities_) The mre's are great away from 'home' base. of course for more cash REI has the outdoor quisine section. and there is the FoodInsurance program from the Beck - an nice tote bag too. it is a pity you cant order the boxes with just the ones you like ; I could eat the breakfast one any time, but it rarely shows in rotation. the IED from the heat pack is a nice bene too. | ||
| Honolulu_blue_esq |
Blake: That IS informative. When will you be banning yourself? | ||
| Reindog |
Who let Hex (or is it Rocket) back in here?  In my best Butt Head voice, "This is gonna be ca-cool". | ||
| Reindog |
Matt, What say you about MRE acquisition? You know, with cash or palms outstretched. Where is the best place to buy them? | ||
| Pwnzor |
Where's the best source for MREs? Well, you can pay full price on Amazon, around $100 for 12 assorted meals with heaters.... OR You can buddy up to any active member of the military and pay their price... not sure what the current price is. Mine are all about 5 years old now, but I paid $1500 cash for 25 cases of 12 units. They don't expire, although they suggest a 10 year shelf life. I keep them all in a cool, dark place so I guess they're fine. I eat one about every 6 months to make sure. My favorites are the bean burrito and the beef stroganoff. | ||
| Sifo |
I had occasion to sample some military MREs a few years back on a camping trip. They really weren't bad when you're hungry. I've also sampled some of what REI sells. I would suggest trying one before stocking up. Some of the meals REI sells shouldn't be fed to your dog. Others are OK. | ||
| Pwnzor |
Just found THIS Seems like a real good deal a big pile of various dry goods, requiring heat source and some water only. | ||
| Pwnzor |
Hahah... I had been ignoring the fray, but I just read through it and checked the weather... looking cloudy!  | ||
| Blake |
>>> But for you to pretend that you don't engage in personal insult on this forum I insult folks plenty and have never pretended otherwise. I don't believe I've called anyone here a communist or a fascist. If I did, it was a reflection on their statement concerning political issues, not a backlash against how they might see fit to manage an internet forum; that is what you did Justin, lumped me in with the likes of Hitler because you don't like being exposed for your nonsense here. There's a big difference. We see it all the time here, folks who refuse to engage in thoughtful debate, who would rather lie and misrepresent than debate honorably. Then when called on their nonsense, they lash out with personal attack. Trolls. >>> Blake: That IS informative. When will you be banning yourself? Maybe when my contributions here devolve into juvenile commentary like that. You still have a chance to rejoin thoughtful participation here. I'm willing to forget and let you start anew. It's entirely up to you. The topic we should return to concerns the effects of ever more intrusive federal government meddling into the affairs of what should be free peoples. (Message edited by blake on August 11, 2011) |
