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Drkside79
| Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 - 12:26 pm: |
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I will have to speak up and support Honolulu. While i am not one of his PM supporters I honestly must say i respect him for arguing. I wish i had the patience and typing speed to fight for my beliefs. If we ever meet face to face I would love to have a beer and debate with some of you as I am much more formidable that way. To be honest he has argued his point well and so has Sifo. Yet he is being called a troll this I don't understand. |
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Reindog
| Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 - 01:43 pm: |
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HBE was doing fine until, well, you know. He is not a troll so there is a point of agreement with the Darkside. HBE: There are flavors of Conservatism, most of which have everything to do with sound fiscal policy and an unwavering support of the Constitution as it IS written. Conservatives believe in minimal government in the workplace AND the bedroom so I don't understand where you are coming from. |
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Sifo
| Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 - 01:51 pm: |
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I think the reason Honolulu got called a troll is because I spent an entire day trying to get him to give a direct answer to a simple question. Also there was a repeated misstatement of my position that continued despite numerous corrections. Sorry, but that is troll behavior. He continued this same behavior with Blake after I dropped it. I see he continues with the BS about conservatives want government in the bedroom. |
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Drkside79
| Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 - 02:11 pm: |
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To be fair Sifo your tactic (at one point) was to get him to answer in your direction for one part of the equation in an effort to sway the complete argument. It was a good tactic but alas he recognized and didn't take the bait. I will take your bait yes not all of congress got to weigh in on this particular bill in the drafting segment. However as they all were able to vote they ALL had the opportunity to note against and start over. (Admittedly it may have been career suicide) So in the end they all got a say. I have to assume everything brought in front of congress gets done this way a small group drafts it the larger approves it. Or am i wrong? |
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Reindog
| Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 - 02:15 pm: |
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However, this was one of the better debating threads even if I didn't have an opinion on the topic. Sifo and HBE were both a little snippy at times but we have all seen a lot worse behavior at the BDS (Badweb Debating Society). After his tongue lashing, I bet HBE never pulls that stunt in front of a Judge saying that anonymous people agreed that his client is innocent, therefore, his client is innocent. OK, lets get to the real dirt. Who PM(S)'ed HBE? My money is on Rocco and the liver-lilied-coward-varmint Gess Also, Crusty has been a little TOO quiet lately. . |
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Moxnix
| Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 - 02:18 pm: |
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My wife is conservative. She governs our bedroom. |
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Darth_villar
| Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 - 02:24 pm: |
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Something a troll would do. "I'm right, study XXXX and you would see." Instead of citing actual sources. I appreciate differing opinions, as it gives me a chance to learn. A logical, factual debate, is essential to the betterment of an open mind. |
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Drkside79
| Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 - 02:30 pm: |
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liver-lilied-coward-varmint Gess ?????? |
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Blake
| Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 - 02:41 pm: |
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Darth speaks truth. Thank you for that. I REALLY appreciate it. Trolls suck. |
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Reindog
| Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 - 02:45 pm: |
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You must have missed the emoticon or don't recognize Dave Gess's name. I wrote, "liver-lilied-coward-varmint Gess " He is a BHL who feigns disgust at our brilliant Conservative minds. |
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Court
| Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 - 02:45 pm: |
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Not Dave. Dave and I are on two polar opposite ends of the political spectrum but his views (wrong as they may be ) are always well thought out and he is able to articulate and defend them. I enjoy visiting with folks who hold diverse views. We are all the product of culture, experience, upbringing and background. I've never maintained my view was correct. . . it's simply what I believe. Dave's a smart guy and fails to meet any of the "liver-lilied-coward-varmint" criteria. Court |
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Reindog
| Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 - 02:47 pm: |
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I kinda pictured myself as Yosemite Sam when I wrote that satirical sentence. Sheesh. |
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Sifo
| Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 - 02:59 pm: |
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To be fair Sifo your tactic (at one point) was to get him to answer in your direction for one part of the equation in an effort to sway the complete argument. It was a good tactic but alas he recognized and didn't take the bait. He didn't take the bait by refusing to answer the direct question. Smart as far as not wanting to be proven wrong, but nevertheless, wrong. The rest of your post about passing the bill is only partially correct. There's more that can be done than simply vote yea or nay. That's where this whole scheme fails. |
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Pwnzor
| Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 - 03:09 pm: |
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*ahem* It's "lilly-livered varmint", not "liver-lillied varmint". If you studied the case law of State of Georgia vs. Yosemite Sam and read all the PM's I got, you'd know this. |
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Blake
| Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2011 - 10:15 pm: |
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>>> He didn't take the bait engage in respectful debate by refusing to answer the direct question. Smart as far as not wanting to be proven admit being wrong, but nevertheless, wrong. Fixed it for you. ![: )](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/happy.gif) |
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Moxnix
| Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 01:41 am: |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaG4A0Bm8c4 |
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Mtjm2
| Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 11:54 am: |
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Hot air outa both ends ! |
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Blake
| Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 04:16 pm: |
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Not air! What a troll! |
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Moxnix
| Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 08:45 pm: |
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As Congressman Ron Paul points out, the "Super Congress" is just a way for the real congress to shirk its responsibility. It is also a convenient way for lobbyists to focus their efforts...and for members of the super-committee to bring in more campaign contributions. What is it unlikely to do is either cut real debt itself...or allow any sort of automatic system to cut it. Instead, it will move the "baseline" around, so that it can appear to cut debt without actually cutting anything. But this Super Congress is working out as a DC media fraud on us, which is what congress wanted to do from the start. Further deponent sayeth not. |
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Reindog
| Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 11:26 pm: |
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Senator Kerry is on the Super Congress. What a relief. |
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Kenm123t
| Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 11:34 pm: |
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Rein s been hacked or is Ill some one check on him |
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Ulyranger
| Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 11:54 pm: |
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"Senator Kerry is on the Super Congress. What a relief." http://www.theblaze.com/stories/john-kerry-media-h as-responsibility-to-not-give-equal-time-to-tea-pa rty/ Yup, this committee is going to be a hoot.....and really productive (to their wallets and power lust).... |
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Crusty
| Posted on Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 06:59 am: |
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Oh My God!!! The Sky Is Falling!!! |
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Pwnzor
| Posted on Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 07:15 am: |
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Did anyone expect anything less from someone like John Kerry? |
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Honolulu_blue_esq
| Posted on Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 08:53 am: |
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“The media has got to begin to not give equal time or equal balance to an absolutely absurd notion just because somebody asserts it or simply because somebody says something which everybody knows is not factual. It doesn’t deserve the same credit as a legitimate idea about what you do. And the problem is everything is put into this tit-for-tat equal battle and America is losing any sense of what’s real, of who’s accountable, of who is not accountable, of who’s real, who isn’t, who’s serious, who isn’t?” The quote doesn't say anything about the Tea Party. Just saying. |
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Blake
| Posted on Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 09:35 am: |
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>>> Oh My God!!! The Sky Is Falling!!! Please, stop quoting Al Gore without proper attribution. |
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Sifo
| Posted on Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 09:49 am: |
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I'd like to hear from Honolulu, just exactly what group of people he thinks JK was talking about. Here's the full clip, just in case you want to the entire context... http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2011/08/05/ john-kerry-media-has-%E2%80%98responsibility%E2%80 %99-to-%E2%80%98not-give-equal-time%E2%80%99-to-te a-party/ |
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Honolulu_blue_esq
| Posted on Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 10:14 am: |
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Sifo: My guess is the extreme left who kept talking about "no cuts!" and the extreme right who kept talking about "no tax raises!" |
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Honolulu_blue_esq
| Posted on Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 10:16 am: |
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Oh My God!!! The Sky Is Falling!!! - Al Gore and 90% of the folks in the BWB "political" discussion. Fixed it for ya Crusty. Who knew these guys agreed with Gore on something? |
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Reindog
| Posted on Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 10:20 am: |
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I thought the Tea Party members were "terrorists". I thought the Tea Party caused the "Tea Party Downgrade". I thought the Tea Party was "Astroturf". Yeah, my first thought was that JK was NOT speaking about the Tea Party. HBE, nice try at deflection. |