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Blake
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 08:00 pm: | 
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>>> Dealer prep and shipping are separate items that MUST be specifically excluded.
According to the law they must only be excluded from the "suggested retail" price advertised.
The language governing "suggested retail" price is under subsection (b), not (a). Subsection (b) by its language apply solely to "suggested retail" price advertising.
Clearly subsection (b), wholly independent of (a) concerns only advertising of "suggested retail" prices. Otherwise we would have a contradiction between it an subsection (a) paragraphs (1) and (2). |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 08:06 pm: |
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I think you've invented a straw man there. No one, certainly not me, is arguing that all prices items be rolled into one number, just that all priced items are stated so that a total price may be understood. The TN law seems to require that.
It does, but it requires that the items be listed separately and not be included in a blanket price. The items are clearly listed on the bill of sale. You know exactly what you pay before you sign on the line. If one can't figure out what they are paying before they sign the deal, they probably shouldn't be buying a vehicle.
If you are quoted a ridiculously low price for an item, be suspicious. The price quoted is probably not the end of the story. If it is, be pleasantly surprised and take the deal. If it isn't, be prepared to negotiate further.
If I were the OP, I would have called Steve at Temecula Motorsports and asked if the freight and setup charges could be waived. If the answer is no, could part of the freight and setup charges could be waived. If the answer is no, is the deal including the freight and setup a decent one? If not, walk away. If so, take the deal.
It ain't rocket science. |
Ft_bstrd
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 08:12 pm: |
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Clearly subsection (b), wholly independent of (a) concerns only advertising of "suggested retail" prices. Otherwise we would have a contradiction between it an subsection (a) paragraphs (1) and (2).
And yet both subsection (a) and subsection (b) both contain language specifically requiring the separate and distinct listing of ANY fees from the price whether MSRP or "suggested retail price". |
Blake
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 10, 2011 - 08:42 pm: |
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>>> It does, but it requires that the items be listed separately and not be included in a blanket price.
I don't see where it disallows one total combined price listing except in the case of MSRP. I do see where it requires that the ancillary fees included as part of the total be specified separately, but not that they be excluded from inclusion in the total sale price. It actually seems to require that the advertised price must include all fees.
What's the old adage proven true time and time again? If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.
When shopping vehicles, I always ask for the "out the door" price.
(Message edited by blake on August 10, 2011) |
Daves
| | Posted on Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 11:34 am: |
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"Out the door" is the ONLY number that matters. |
Eboos
| | Posted on Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 04:37 pm: |
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Man, I hate the term "out the door". For my dealership, the pricing is simple: bike, freight, and $199 doc fee. "Out the door" has lead to more misunderstandings then I can count. The 3 items that I listed are the "out the door" prices, but the state you live in may charge sales tax, and depending on which state, I may be required to collect that tax here.
So lets say you live in MA: you come to my dealership in RI and buy a bike. I will have to collect the MA state tax on that bike which will be ontop of the price you pay for the bike. Now you shopped at a dealership in NH, they don't collect your tax, but you still pay it when you register your bike, hence the misunderstanding. In fact NH dealerships thrive on that misunderstanding in their advertisements. If you ever hear one they always say "tax free NH". |
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