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Shags
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a dilemma i need a new truck.I am stuck between the Ford f150 super crew 5.0L,or the Toyota crewmax 5.7L.I pull a max of around 8,500 lbs.They are similar in price and fuel millage.So any thoughts or experience with either,thanks for your help.[GOD I HATE BUYING A NEW VEHICLE]
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Moved.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As a man who has just got out from under his 1990 Toyota pick up, I can attest that they last as long as they don't rust in half.
On that note, Anyone know a good place to buy a new wiring harness?
The previous owner thought it would be a cool idea to install the trailer light adapter with those accursed crimp things that bite into the insulation.

I'm going to find that guy and install the corroded remnants of this harness in his rectum.
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Redefine420
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ummmm, I'm partial to Ford. I have three Ford work trucks and all three have been worked hard. Driven by employees who don't give a sh!t about them no matter how much I try. Years of of reliable service have won me over.

The Toyotas are nice too. I don't have any personal experience with them, but I would drive one if the right deal came along (free maybe?). I see nice one's around town. I believe they're assembled here.
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Court
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 06:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pulling 8,500#?

EcoBoost
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Jramsey
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Too bad your stuck between those two choices.

Neither of them would pull a "w hore' off off piss pot let alone pull 8,500 lbs for any length of time.

Find a clean early '90s Dodge/Cummins.
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Psykick_machanik
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 06:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hummmmmmm.
id go with another Buell instead.
get a friend with a truck.

iv got a late 90's toyota tacoma and it pulls the boat without breaking a sweat. never had a full sized ford so i cant compair. these days i bet their all prety close, prob just what your more cumfy in.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Both are built here by Americans. Both are good.

I've had two Toyota trucks back to back and I can attest that after 200,000 miles each, they were both running like new.

Now if you're pulling weight, I'd also suggest diesel. Unfortunately, it'll be more expensive up front and rules out the Toyota.
Just as long as you don't buy Dodge or Chevy.
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Shags
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court,i read some things about the EcoBoost that bother me.I am not a big fan of turbos in that application, don't no if they would last the life of the truck.I drive semi and when a turbo goes its ugly and expensive.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on that ecoboost.
I took one for a test drive and was impressed a great deal.
I was REALLY impressed by the $37,000 price though.
OOf.
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Guell
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a toyota truck, was indestructable, now i have a ford. My next truck will be a toyota again, nuff said.
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Dennis_c
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

buy not a JAP truck if its made here the money still leaves the country
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

truck if its made here the money still leaves the country

False.


The profit from business operations is paid in the form of dividends to the shareholder or as interest on loan money in the form of coupons on corporate bonds.

Besides Japan, the largest shareholders for Toyota stock and corporate are American investors.

Ford stock shareholders are not only domestic but foreign as well.

Toyota trucks are built in TX. I don't really care where the corporation is domiciled as long as US workers were utilized in the construction of the product.
If you own a large cap mutual fund, you own Toyota stock. If you own a corporate bond fund or a balanced fund, you own Toyota debt.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd buy Ford for one reason, Ford didn't take government money.

I'd buy Toyota for two reasons, Toyota didn't take government money and doesn't use UAW labor.
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01x1buell
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i would go with a ford 250 with a 7.3 liter diesel 99-03 great engines . i have over 200,000 on mine amd still kicking ass
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

I'd buy Ford for one reason, Ford didn't take government money.




They did. Just not as much as the others.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a friend who races with me that just traded his toyota in for a new f150, he gets better mpg and it pulls better.
It was the 5.7 Toyota and his Ford has the EcoBoost motor in it.
He loves it.

I have no other experience with them, just thought I'd add the above
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They did. Just not as much as the others.


How Ford Restructured Without Federal Help


Ford accepted a $5.9 billion loan subsidy under the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 (EISA)


Different loan and DIDN'T abrogate shareholder and creditor rights.
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01x1buell
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hey hey now.
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Etennuly
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you are thinking about a used truck, don't even walk near a Ford Diesel powered truck from 2003 to 2010. For thousands of owners these trucks came with two payment books. One for the purchase, the other to spend four grand a year keeping it running.

I have a 2004 that has a book value of around $18,000. No dealer will allow more than $6,500 on a trade because it costs too much for them to fix them to get them to an auction. Even Ford dealers don't want them.

The trap is to loose $11,500 to trade or to spend $5,000 to fix the problems that they came with, and that is with no guarantee the truck will run a week after the repairs are done.

A lot of Ford folks say the best repair is to put in the Dodge Cummins engine. Aftermarket companies even make installation kits to do so now.

I have been reading the 2011 Ford diesel has it fixed, but I would be damned to buy one after what I have been through and have seen others suffer with. Ford and International really left a lot of companies and individual owners hanging by their check books.

Of the two the 'yoda is looking like the better choice if you can get past it's ugly "trying to be a big truck" look. I have a customer who has one. He does a lot of miles with it doing sales work. He says it is a nice truck with no problems, but he feels the same way about it's looks.
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01x1buell
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

nope i would go with a ford with a 7.3 last year they made them was first half of 03 anything before that you are good to go i have had not one problem with mine.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just avoid the ones that burn up in your garage. ; )
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Cowboy
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

depends on trany stick go with ford---auto go with toyota.
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a dilemma i need a new truck.I am stuck between the Ford f150 super crew 5.0L,or the Toyota crewmax 5.7L.I pull a max of around 8,500 lbs.They are similar in price and fuel millage.So any thoughts or experience with either,thanks for your help.[GOD I HATE BUYING A NEW VEHICLE]

Not sure why all the diesel talk.

I really like the Ford. }
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Dobr24
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As you already know i have the Toyota and love it! My useless.02! Neither is gonna get you up that hill in winter!
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Spike240sx
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I own a 2010 SR5 Tundra Crewmax with the 5.7. On average I tow about 9500 Pounds about 4 times a month. I go and pick up broken down trucks for Iowa Steak Company. They have over 16 locations nationwide. So typically im pulling a Nissan Frontier with a slide in freezer. Add in the weight of the 28 foot trailer, Im pulling right about 9500 lbs. Typically its a minimum of 2000 miles round trip in a single weekend. Sometimes alot farther.

This truck has never missed a single beat! It pulls great! It does not sag much with a full load. I do use a weight distribution hitch and that help with any swaying. Ride is smooth also. As for power, well, Ive pissed off more than my share of Fords, Chevys, and Dodges pulling a full load up hill. All while averaging about 12-13.5 miles per gallon depending on quality of fuel.

In town to towing I average closer to 18 MPG Which nets me about 400 miles to a tank

My only complaint is the size of the fuel tank. At only 29 gallons I get about 300 miles before the low fuel light comes on. And that is at 25 gallons used.

Full K&N cold air intake, magnaflow cat back exhaust and a hyper tech tunner is in the works to pick up some fuel mileage.

I knew what I wanted to do with my truck when I was looking for one. I wanted to stick with gasoline and less than $50K in price. After comparing all the trucks in that range, it was a no brainer for me to pick the Tundra. Compare all the specs and you will see why

This truck is solid built! It is 3/4 ton frame by the way. Thats how they get away with advertising it will haul 10K. And its not a lie.


Old 24 Foot trailer but you get the idea!
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Spike240sx
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

By the way! Ive had the truck for exactly 1 year. Bought it brand new and now have over 35,000 miles on it!
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Court
Posted on Sunday, August 07, 2011 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been very happy with my Ford trucks but when they get some mikes they get expensive.

$3,200 for s transmission last month at 84,000 miles.

Truck is going bye bye.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, August 08, 2011 - 07:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've not heard of a tranny going bad that soon or being that expensive to repair.
What happened?
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Court
Posted on Monday, August 08, 2011 - 07:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The low and overdrive went out in the transmission.

Dealer installed a rebuilt transmission.

I'm going to approach Ford but, at the risk of overusing the phrase, " it is what it is ".

Not a stellar statement about American products. Judging from the Ford truck forum the problem is neither unknown nor unique to my truck.

But...... My primary reason for Ditching the truck is that I simply don't use a truck anymore. I used to haul bikes a lot. These days it's me and a briefcase ...... Nothing 2 seats and a couple hundred hp can't handle.

Impressive read about the Tundra.
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