| Author | Message | ||
     Dwardo |
I say build a 40' deep 50' tall wall across the entire border of Mexico. It will provide American jobs and keep the Mexican cartel scum on their side of the fence. I say, let "them" build it. Any time an illegal is caught here, take their prints before deporting them. If they get caught a second time, it's 5 years hard labor building the wall, and no sending money home to Mamasita. That goes for the women, too. | ||
| Sifo |
Also stop the BS talk about splitting families by sending illegals home. I have no problem at all with sending the entire family south of the border. If I were caught living illegally in a foreign country, I wouldn't expect special treatment because I brought the rest of my family along with me. | ||
| Whatever |
60 % is a stab in the dark... from the end of WW II to present I would say 60% to 40%... When the gov releases All The Data (not holding my breath) including money ear marked 'confidential' we will know the truth... probably never... | ||
| Drkside79 |
Again, simply eliminating corporate taxes will be a big first step in getting corporations to set up shop here. The incentive to move offshore is because of the taxes imposed on corporations. Sure there are other factors, but taxation is one of the few factors that the government has any control over. Right now they are providing the incentive to locate almost anywhere BUT the US. It's proving to be effective too. Couldn't we make it so painful to import into the US that it forces them to bring the jobs back? Level astronomical fines on any company that outsources jobs to under paid countries which in a sense is a sweat shop. | ||
| Drkside79 |
Also stop the BS talk about splitting families by sending illegals home. I have no problem at all with sending the entire family south of the border. Problem is a child born of illegals in the US is a US Citizen. So you would be deporting an American without cause of leaving a child without parents. The Supreme Court in an 1898 decision known as 'U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark' made new law with its new interpretation that children of foreign citizens born in the US soil are US citizens. | ||
| Whatever |
Both borders razor wire and posts with snipers... Equal opportunity enforcement. Alligators won't work... at Big Bend the Rio Grande is 18 inches deep abd 20 feet wide... but you get points for creativity. Let's focus the war on drugs funding porportional to violent crimes committed. If some dumb pot head wants to be a stupid couch potato... let him, as long as he is not on public assisstance. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Couldn't we make it so painful to import into the US that it forces them to bring the jobs back? Level astronomical fines on any company that outsources jobs to under paid countries which in a sense is a sweat shop. (See Smoot-Hawley, protectionism) BAD juju. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Problem is a child born of illegals in the US is a US Citizen. So you would be deporting an American without cause of leaving a child without parents. The Supreme Court in an 1898 decision known as 'U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark' made new law with its new interpretation that children of foreign citizens born in the US soil are US citizens. The Supreme Court got this one VERY wrong. It was NEVER the original intent of the 14th Amendment per the transcripts of the original debates. A clarification Amendment is necessary. No anchor babies. No automatic citizenship. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I'd also like to see mandatory testing for folks on public assistance. You test positive for drugs, you're off. You test positive for alcohol, you're off. You test positive for nicotine, you're off. You refuse to have Norplant or other long term contraceptive installed or become pregnant, you're off. If you are on public assistance, you will show up at 8:00 each morning Monday-Friday at the public assistance office to receive your work assignment. You will pick up trash, clear brush, mow the grass at government offices, sweep floors, trim hedges, paint, drive shuttles. If we are going to pay you, we are going to get value for what we pay you. You refuse to show up for your job, you're off. If you receive unemployment for more than 180 days, you will also be required to report to the work assignment office. I have lost jobs and been unemployed. I've worked for friends doing basic, low end, menial jobs. I didn't make much money. I was motivated to make more, to do more with myself. It's amazing how much one can think and plan and dream mopping a floor or painting a fence or digging a ditch. The greatest inventors in the world thought their greatest thoughts doing basic, menial jobs. Hell, Erik was probably thinking about the 1125R while he was working on FXRs. | ||
| Drkside79 |
If i felt for a minute that giving corporations a break to come back would mean that they would pass a break on to Americans I would be all for it. They haven't and they won't they will cut every possible job to raise their bottom line. Than charge more and blame expenses. I worry for my children a lot with the way things are going.... | ||
| Drkside79 |
You test positive for drugs, you're off. You test positive for alcohol, you're off. You test positive for nicotine, you're off. You refuse to have Norplant or other long term contraceptive installed or become pregnant, you're off. I agree with the drugs The rest though is a bit..........  | ||
| Crackhead |
ft_bstrd is on the right track. Show up to work at the gov office or the local community center. The buss and equipment will be waiting. If you pop positive, we will ship you to work in the middle of no where away from all of the vices. Think of it as Uncle Sam rehab. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
If i felt for a minute that giving corporations a break to come back would mean that they would pass a break on to Americans I would be all for it. They haven't and they won't they will cut every possible job to raise their bottom line. Than charge more and blame expenses. I worry for my children a lot with the way things are going.... I would buy this if it weren't for competition. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
The rest though is a bit.......... If you are going to be a ward of the state, you can't complain when the state places requirements on the life you are provided. There can't be freedom without responsibility. You want to blow off math class, fail to learn how to read, and drop out of school (provided free to you), you have made a choice. There are consequences for that choice. You want to have 5 children with 4 different men none of which you are married to and can't afford any of them, you have made a choice. There are consequences for that choice. You drink and wreck your liver, or smoke and wreck your lungs, or take drugs and jack your self up, you have made a choice. There are consequences for that choice. You engage in high risk sexual activities with members of the same or different sex and contract an STD or AIDS, you have made a choice. There are consequences for that choice. You can't ask for freedom to do what you want and then require that I help pay to mitigate the negative consequences for that freedom. I have made both good and bad decisions in my life. I've born the consequences for both. I AM bearing the consequences for both. | ||
| Moxnix |
Corporations lack patriotism, not just the need to export jobs overseas to cut costs and raise the bottom line for stockholders. I like investing in family started and family run businesses, if one can find them. Today's news is just more celebration of "clinkity clank...clank...clank...clink. Nothing from Washington of which to be proud. Funny, around the half rusted city of St. Loser, where they put an income tax on those who work within the confines of the St. Loo city limits to discourage business from being there or coming in, the folk with 2 to 4 trotters in the public trough have multiple TVs and A/C. And vote for more subsidies for themselves through the ballot box. I live in another city, part of the greater metro area, good schoo's for which we pay taxes expecting them to remain good, etc. People make choices and should live with them, but not expect a paid for house, two paid for cars, 4 computers, 3 TVs, A/C in the summertime, a son in private school, and police who are not responding to shots fired at the drop of a hat. Oh, gettin' worked up again. Washington, DC, is broken and doesn't want to be fixed. | ||
| Drkside79 |
Honestly Fat i agree with you to a point. I loathe people who abuse welfare. I also believe that there is no way to do what you are suggesting without becoming worse people in general. Honestly i believe you should get two chances fail a test, or have a kid, or be found piss drunk at noon Strike 1 Strike two your out I would love to see that happen.... Problem is what happens to the kids of these wretched POS? The kids are innocent and the system is no picnic. | ||
| Kenm123t |
The folks that have never run a company seem to hate corporations. In mechanical contracting the best and biggest companies try for a 10% net reality is 3.75.5.5%. When you complain about what business owners make you better think about the risk. Vegas has nothing on the Contracting world in risk. Risk much gain much. If you want entitlements sign up for serfdom. I dont care but leave those of us that prefer freedom alone. Oh and Enron those idiots in Calif that hated corps built the beast that was called Enron Calif built the system an then bitched when they got screwed by it. Enron was every thing Calif greenies and corp haters wanted The lights are still dim in parts of Calif lol | ||
| Mtjm2 |
1) Build a wall around DC. 2) Get rid of the Dept. of energy 3) get rid of the EPA 4) Get rid of the Dept. of education 5) Put the troops around the border 6) Get rid of The all mighty O I give the floor back to Court | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Corporations shouldn't be "patriotic". Corporations should serve to make those who have supplied the capital to creat them a profit. Period. A "patriotic" company that can't turn a profit will cease to exist. Quickly. Wal-Mart was a mom and pop 5 and dime once upon a time. So was Woolworths and Ford. Only successful company models become Fortune 500 companies. Why loathe them? | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Fix the Federal Government? Article 1, Section 8 Tenth Amendment Lunchtime everyone. | ||
| Sifo |
Problem is a child born of illegals in the US is a US Citizen. So you would be deporting an American without cause of leaving a child without parents. You're wrong. There's no need to deport a US citizen. I'm simply pointing out that the family doesn't have to be split apart. They can all go back to their country of origin. The children can have dual citizenship until they turn 18. Then they need to make a choice. If they want to stay in the US with a legal guardian then that's fine too, but it's their choice to split the family. Don't lay that on the legal system. The Supreme Court in an 1898 decision known as 'U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark' made new law with its new interpretation that children of foreign citizens born in the US soil are US citizens. Can anyone spot a problem with this? | ||
| Drkside79 |
The US is the country of origin for the kids Sifo whether you like it or not. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Having spent alot of time overseas, and off shore doing the bidding for things from Washington, on many occasions at full errant stupidity with lack of clear intent, rules of engagement, or forced mitigated failure = the US needs to focus on its home front, for a good long time. However, NOTHING of any of the bills I have read since this administration has started are of that purpose. It is why I am headed overseas. My opportunity is BETTER, more LUCRATIVE, more SECURE, and has a longer projected estimate of return than staying domestic. And the wave of BabyBoomers that are retiring overseas know that their cost of living, quality of life is more promising out of country as well. Whatever you thought America was- it hasnt been in a long while, and it certainly isnt in the near future. | ||
| Drkside79 |
So the baby boomers F'd up my country and skipped out over seas.... Great. Mostly joking and not directed at city | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I was walking blankly through a grocery store in El Progresso Honduras when a local said in that typical Florida northern accent "Hey, how's it goin'." Shocked and not expecting to find another American, I talked with him for a while. Evidently it's very inexpensive to live in Hondras. The good parts of the country can be had for $1200/mo with the lesser areas to be had for less. I like Honduras. I might have to seriously consider moving there in retirement. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Check the immigration laws of other countries. If I'm born in Mexico to US citizen parents, I'm NOT Mexican. If I'm born in Scotland to US citizen parents, I'm NOT Scottish. McCain was born in Panama. He isn't a Panamanian citizen. We are the only country to confer citizenship to any offspring who's mother happens to fall over the border. | ||
| Dwardo |
If the cost of doing business overseas is less even without paying taxes, then they will stay overseas. If it is equal, who knows? If it is less, then they will come back. They would like to keep all of the extra profit, greedy capitalist pigs that they are, but ... they can't. They will be competing with the overseas manufacturers and other US manufacturers, who will undercut them on price. It will happen every time. Always. That's why cartels never work in the long run, because somebody gets greedy and tries to increase market share. The only time this doesn't happen is if there is a true monopoly. The only true monopolies are those that exist within government or with the connivance of government. See USPS. | ||
| Moxnix |
Pardon me, I should have stated (that) officers of corporations lack patriotism. Corporations are paper entities with patriotism only if that is written into the articles of corporation. During WW2, captains of industry came to Washington, the famous "dollar a year man" who was paid a token $1 for his efforts. Bad times. We won. WW1 was notorious for the slew of "war profiteers" who made money. WW2 dollar a year men stepped up. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
The 'never trust anyone over 30' crowd have been running and rail roading things since the 70s; why are you surprised that they have crafted their own golden parachutes ? | ||
| Sifo |
The US is the country of origin for the kids Sifo whether you like it or not. I made zero attempt to dispute that. What's your point? Is that supposed to make their illegal parents above the law? This is my country of origin too. Should my parents be above the law in some way too? Perhaps you need to re-read what I said. Check the immigration laws of other countries. If I'm born in Mexico to US citizen parents, I'm NOT Mexican. If I'm born in Scotland to US citizen parents, I'm NOT Scottish. McCain was born in Panama. He isn't a Panamanian citizen. We are the only country to confer citizenship to any offspring who's mother happens to fall over the border. I have good friends who came here from England. They did so legally with green cards and work visas. They were here for over 12 years. They had 2 children while they were here. They returned to England last year. None of that makes them citizens of the US. Their children have dual citizenship until they turn 18. At that point they must file papers denouncing their English citizenship or they lose their US citizenship. Funny how legal visitors to our country can return to their countries of origin with out tearing families apart. It's time to stop the BS about anchor babies for illegals. Breaking the law should never be a path to citizenship. |
