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Whatever
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok... so I was not going to post about this, but I think now I will because I just need to vent. I hate looking for work, especially with the bullsh*t involved... but I thought this was a little extraordinary.

I had an interview on Monday the 18th of July, and hands down this had to be the most screwed up situation I had to interview for.

The client (a large American production corporation) had an Environmental Engineer that they hired from another country to run thier environmental compliance programs. She has been there for 6 months AND they had my former employer as a consultant to help her learn the American (Fed, State and Local) environmental programs so she can do her job.

My former employer the consultant (a large American engineering firm) I had run the environmental programs for at 5 locations near Milwaukee simultaneously for almost a year... SO I know how to do the job at hand that my so called potential client supervisor does not.

I was interviewing for a postion at 88% of my former pay to run the waste disposal and recycling programs for the client and would be a contractor (and an employee at large American waste corporation).

So, basically I would have been hired to be on-site to do work that I have not specialized in extensively but could surely have handled.

This person (the client EE) asked me some really stupid questions that left me at a loss for words when she asked them... note, not technical questions like... do you feel confident that you can handle RCRA, CERCLA, DOT, Emergency Planning, etc. requirements essential to this job?

But, "Have you ever made a graph like this" of job duties ? Honestly, I must have had a WTF look on my face bc the contractor boss who was there from half way across the country tried to answer the question for me.

He was cool, and professional and really excited about me interviewing there. He even came outside to have a smoke and chat with me after we left the bimbo client EE interview.

I told him, "Well I wish that would have gone better..."!!!

So, no word for a week and I get this response from the client EE... and her english and communication is so bad I do not even know what the hell this means ???

Why are incompetent people in professional positions that are good paying jobs that Americans should be able to get and keep ?

WTF ?????

Anyone help me out here ???


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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is completely screw-ball.

She has been there for 6 months AND they had my former employer as a consultant to help her learn the American (Fed, State and Local) environmental programs so she can do her job.

Char- Isn't that about 99% of what her job entails, knowing the Federal, State, and Local environmental programs? I worked in the field for about 3 years, and it seemed that environmental engineering technical knowledge (like how you might actually clean up an environmental mess) was rarely used. The vast majority of the work concerned knowing the regulations.

Who in their right mind would hire someone based on being skilled at 1% of a job with no knowledge of the other 99%?
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

she want have sex with you.... she love you long time

opportunity for bed to get you in
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Whatever
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The world is full of f*cktards, and I just seem to be a f*cktard magnet these days... oh well... carry on !
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Drkside79
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just wrote and received a similar follow up and received a similar vague response. It sucks and I feel for you. Mine came after 3 fricking interviews.
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Whatever
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, kind makes you want to rob a bank, doesn't it ???
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Pwnzor
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I still need people with commercial driver licenses in Georgia.

Just saying.

Just bought 4 late model Kenworths, need to fill the driver seats.

(Message edited by pwnzor on July 26, 2011)
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Whatever
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually starting to look into the CDL thing, but I need to stay in this area.
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Moxnix
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm tempted to hijack this into a toilet thread, as in having to teach certain folk from the Indian subcontinent how to use an American one. Of course they were earning more than I.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 04:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WELCOME to the world over diversity White males have exactly the same problem for about 20 years. Being a women is not enough any more you need ethincity.
Talk to them in Norskie and ask for the translator and you ll be hired!
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 05:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I saw the title, I woulda swore it was about Jeese James and Kat Von D breaking up.

Don't get into truck driving, it'll take 10 years off your life and give you a bad attitude.
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Whatever
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I already have a bad attitude. At my age taking ten years off would put me in my mid to low 30's!
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Mtjm2
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whatever , GUNS , CDL ,

Are you becoming a CONSERVATIVE ?

Oh , sorry
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Whatever
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I told you I was an Independent... I am really liberal on some issues and really coservative on other issues... you have not been paying attention ! I also despise mixing religion with politics. Nooooo cooookie for you today.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

She is on the path to being a true conservative. I also noticed she was wishing the norskie shooter was meted out justice in the after life. There is hope on that front to.
fatty should we send Char cliff notes on JOB? she is a Court Choker becareful
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Whatever
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court enjoys being slapped. He pays me for that stuff. He just eats it up.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

OOOOOO TMI next thing you ll tell me he is really a congressman!
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Swampy
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So this weekend I am fishing, and I'm trolling 50 feet from a swimming area, and this rental pontoon full of dot heads come full throttle between me and the swimming bouys. The dip driving the pontoon recognizes me from earlier in the day when he ran over my fishing lines on a rental jet ski.
I was like WTF? Whats with you people? Where is the GD water deputy when you need him.

Just because they are smiling and nodding their head in agreement doesn't mean they understand anything you are saying.

I am hoping they don't have an anchor child here or we will never get rid of them.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I recommend what I call the "Morgan Freeman speech near the end of Shawshank Redemption" for your next job interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE7mhZgME2k

(embedding disabled)

Which boils down to "Don't waste my time- hire me or don't!"
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Oldfartnbuell
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Badlionsfan,
I was an over the road truck driver for 51 years and I have a great attitude and I would do it all over again! If it took 10 yrs off my life I've never noticed. It had better hurry up before I die of old age.
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01x1buell
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 09:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hey there you know i drive trucks as well as op heavy equipment ( mostly drive trucks) and i love it sometimes the other drivers piss me off but it is all good cause i ma on the open road and loving life. it is not a bad career and if u get a hazmat cert u can make some good money.i ahve doubles triples tank and hazmat and i do not use any of those.. i wish i could
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Whatever
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What I AM working on is the Certified Hazardous Materials Manager... it will cost me around $1000 total probably and be a bear to pass the test but it is what I want to do.

I also have Emergency Management courses on-line I gotta start... I have been so possessed with finding work I forgot I downloaded some 200 hours worth of material I want to learn to pass certifications from FEMA.

I was thinking about the scene in The Wrestler with Mickey Rourke when he quits the deli job by slashing up his hand, rubbing blood all over his face and then runs through the store screaming and knocking sh*t off the shelves.

However, I can't afford to burn bridges in this economy... maybe they will fire Ms. Bozoid and ask me to interview as her replacement... you never know.
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL, loved Rourke in that movie... I could see you reprising it...

Keep your chin up, and your eyes on the prize.
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Greg_e
Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2011 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/job-listings-u nemployed-not-apply-133143362.html
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Calm down everyone, it was meant as a tongue and cheek, sarcastic comment.

01 I pull doubles every once in a while the last four years or so, and regularly when I was at Con-Way in 06. Can be a pain in the ass to hook and ya can't back a set up very far before it'll fold up like an accordion, and the single axle tractors are tricky in the snow. The upside is they turn great, and once you get over the initial nerves you realize they're no different than a 53' running down the highway. The best part is if you get a car hanging along your rear trailer, just a little twitch of the wheel will give a crack the whip effect and get their attention enough to make them go away.
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Whatever
Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Soon every job you can get will be minimum wage, with an extra helping of humiliation for your bonus !!!

http://vimeo.com/5772938
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Dwardo
Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What Moxnix said. I too, must work with imports from the near and far East. Never mind that there are most likely thousands of competent, American software engineers within a 20-mile radius who are looking for work. The best (worst) thing about the Hindus is that they really can't leave that caste s**t behind. When my boss goes to talk to them they literally stand at attention. When I tell them to do something (or not) they do exactly what the f*ck they want to do, then they think I am going to do their testing for them (that being perceived as a low class task). I've been in this business 30 years and I know exactly what the f*ck I'm doing, but you wouldn't know that from the response I get. Oh well, at least I have a job. Thanks for letting me vent. Thank you, come again!
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Whatever
Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh God !

That reminds me of a good service industry story...

I have worked over the years at various "blue collar" jobs... driving cab four years, being a welder in home construction two years, being a baker in a cafe a year, and also various food service positions... there is NOTHING in my opinion more horrid than working in food service, especially when people are rude and inappropriate and you can't just tell them to f*ck off like you would in any normal situation because you are only making two dollars an hour.

So, it was a summer I was working two jobs to get by... driving cab in the mornings around 32 hours a week and working at Starbuck's as a barista 20 hours a week. Good times !

Actually Starbuck's was one of the few somewhat tolerable food service jobs I have worked... every other one had put me on the verge of a nervous breakdown and I had to choose between walking out or hurting someone...

So, I worked at a Starbuck's in downtown Madison... and you have to picture this shop. The pay was decent, I think they had us at 75 cents over minimum wage and then we had tips which came to two or three dollars an hour usually, so not too terrible. The head mananger was pretty cool too...

They ragged on me a lot if my till was over or under a few cents, but I guess that is to be expected... Well SBX is very quality conscious. They had a module system for training people that was reading an SOP manual and also then they had practical training where they showed you what to do and then you did it.

So the best part was getting on the espresso machine and making drinks. The rudest customers were always the sorority girls who ordered a grande, skim, sugar free, mocha with no whip, etc. etc. etc. and then they bitched that there was no whip cream on it.

ALWAYS had to re-make the drink to make the customer happy, so, there was a lot of time and energy spent kissing a**.

So this one guy...
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Whatever
Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We called him "Twenty Two Second Shot Guy". He was smug and self-righteous and quite frankly the biggest diva we had to deal with... he was friggin ugly too... kind of like the forgettable face you want to forget if you know what I mean.

So, the SBX training manual says that when you hit the button on the espresso machine after you pack it that the shot should draw out to 21 to 25 seconds for the espresso to be brewed properly. And the espresso machine was like a slot machine... completley random at how lond it took to draw out a shot... you pack it and press the button and it usually would pull a shot anywhere between 18 to 30 seconds, depending on how much pressure was in the pump, how much hot water was int he machine and how hard or how full you packed the espresso into the stem.

So, when it got super busy, like non stop insanity, and there were twenty people lined up out the door and a dozen drinks backed up behind the machine, we usually would not pay as much attention to the timer on the espresso machine... if it comes out hot and without some grounds in it... in the cup it goes, finish the drink and then move onto the next.

But this guy would only accept 22 second shots AND he would stand in the corner of the store and smash his beady little eyes up to the counter to watch the timer on the machine, so he would KNOW that the shots took 22 seconds to draw.

And usually you had to draw anywhere from three to ten times to make him happy.
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Whatever
Posted on Wednesday, July 27, 2011 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So, the manager was this blonde recent college graduate. She was really cool, unlike the other one who reminded me of Nurse Ratchet.

And she was on the floor fixing up displays and this guy actually grabbed her a** and squeezed it. OMG ! She was so so mad... and if I were her I would have filed a report with the police myself and then banned him from entering the store again... but she was like, storming around in the back calling him "Freak Show" and didn't kick him out or anything.

After that he was not known as Twenty Second Shot Guy, but as Freak Show and we never turned our backs to him again.

Fun times !!!
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