| Author | Message | ||
     Drkside79 |
So has anybody used Nitrogen in their tires? Is it worth it? Pros cons or is it all hogwash. Any info will be appreciated. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
I wouldn't bother. You're breathing %70 N right now. The only advantage I can think of is that there is no water in it like normal air. I like normal air. The price is right. | ||
| Crusty |
I think that Seasonal Air is more important than running a straight gas with no additives. This is the stuff that I use in my tires  Everyone knows that temperature can have a great impact in your tire pressure. This is why you absolutely should use the correct air for your tires! For example, your car should usually have the tires set to 32psi. If you are using summer air in the summer, this is fine. However! If you use this summer air in the dead of winter, your may actually only be running at about 22psi! Each can will do one average sized tire. Sold in sets of 1 each. | ||
| 86129squids |
When I worked at the dealership, AFAIK we were the first shop in the area that used nitrogen to inflate tires- the benefits were as follows: - Nitrogen maintains a constant pressure reading either hot or cold - Nitrogen molecules leak much more slowly than regular air - No air = no potential for oxidization of the tire internally nor to the wheel components - Nitrogen filled tires will run cooler than air filled tires (NASCAR and most all truckers run it because of this) There may be more bennies, but you might have to Wiki it- that's all I can remember. Given the hot temps we have lately, I'd say give it a try. | ||
| Fast1075 |
The characteristics of dry nitrogen make it ideal for tires. The temperature/pressure relationship at the temperatures normally encountered in tires results in very small pressure swings. The culprit in normal "shop air" is the moisture and to some degree the oxygen. The problem I have with it is what is charged for tire inflation at most shops. Lets just say they make a HUGE profit. I always run dry nitrogen in my drag slicks...(the normal pressure in a slick is 3-12 psi depending on the size of the tire, rim width, and some other factors.) At the normal 8.5 psi (cold) I ran my 8" tire bike at.....with "shop air" the pressure after a burnout would be as much as 15 psi...with dry nitrogen, it would run around 9-9.5....very critical when trying to put 175-250 hp on the track...too much pressure and you spin...too little pressure and you wad the tire up and get the dreaded tire shake. Whatever you use..dry air os ok..dry nitrogen is better...argon is great too, but pricey....don't EVER use CO2 in a tire. | ||
| Drkside79 |
I got quoted $7 a tire. Is that about average? | ||
| Fast1075 |
The local Harley dealer charges $22.00 per tire. | ||
| Greg_e |
Most places around here are about $20 per tire. It's a scam built on the fact that race teams use nitrogen and therefor it must be better for everyone. The reason they use a pure gas is so that they can compute the pressure change per degree. Since they closely monitor tire temperature they can they decide on the correct pressure whether the tire is ambient or heated. The water and other 22% may be a small issue, water being the biggest issue: http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2694/is-i t-better-to-fill-your-tires-with-nitrogen-instead- of-air (Message edited by Greg_E on June 10, 2011) | ||
| Beugs |
I run it in both my bikes and all my cars. It is always very consistent. I use it for all the reasons squids mentioned and because it's free for me, I work at a cadillac, bmw, mercedes dealer. usually we charge 19.95 for it unless you buy 4 tires. | ||
| 86129squids |
"The local Harley dealer charges $22.00 per tire."  Do you get a reacharound with that? | ||
| Hootowl |
I doubt it. They probably rest their coffee on your back too. | ||
| Azxb9r |
The nitrogen is more thermally stable and leaks more slowly, which are both desirable, but in order for you to get the benefit of the "drier" air the tire would have to be put into a vacuum to remove all the normal air and any moisture. If you air up your tires later with normal air you have just introduced moisture to the tire again. imo airing up your tires with nitrogen is good, but not worth paying for under normal street use. For what it is worth, a few years ago GM released a TSB explaining the ups and downs of nitrogen, and basically said not to waste your money on it. | ||
| Fahren |
Meh. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
I don't get this leaks less, & corosion business. If you're not regularly checking your tyres & their pressures, you're just plain stupid. And if on top of that you think your tyres will last longer due to less corrosion by using nitrogen, well you mustn't be doing very many miles then. I've never changed a tyre due to age, I wear em out. Might as well put helium in, it's an inert gas, & will reduce your unsprung weight too. Personally I use seasonal air like Crusty, but I've found a way to siphon it off before it goes into the canning plant.  (Message edited by Mr_grumpy on June 11, 2011) | ||
| Pammy |
I've never paid for it, but I have N in the tires of my 'Vette. It didn't come that way, but after having to air the tires on nearly a daily basis when I first bought the car, I switched. I think I have added N once in 4 years. | ||
| Pwnzor |
Buddy up with the tire guys at your local Costco. Roll in there, empty your tires out and they'll generally fill them up with the nitrogen for free. | ||
| Crusty |
Uh; how do I empty out all the air in my tires? When I try, I can't get the air out of the top 3/4. Only the bottom goes flat. Excuse me; I have to go check my blinker fluid now. I also have to make sure none of the smoke is escaping from the wires. | ||
| Slaughter |
If you're not measuring your tire pressures HOT, you really aren't able to KNOW what your running pressures actually ARE. Dry air = good, water in air = bad I have however found Fall seasonal air (79% Nitrogen) to be best. Free nitrogen = good, $$ nitrogen = waste | ||
| Froggy |
+1, I would love to be able to control my tire pressures better, but I am not paying for something that is free. | ||
| Crusty |
Is Natural Nitrogen better than Synthetic Nitrogen? | ||
| Tbolt_pilot |
Whether you get the 'Organic' or Synthetic nitrogen make for sure it's not expired. And watch out for that 'blended' nitrogen mix. What's THAT all about? ...blended nitrogen SUCKS!  | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
"Might as well put helium in, it's an inert gas, & will reduce your unsprung weight too." Actually that will be worse than air. Why? The molecular size of He is smaller than that of N or O. We use it here where I work to check for leaks in hermetically sealed components. I bet Neon is a better noble gas for your bike  | ||
| Preybird1 |
The atmosphere contains 78% nitrogen naturally. The equipment to service nitrogen is stupid expensive. It must be pure or very close to it to even benefit from it. I find it a waste of time and money. | ||
| Skntpig |
Doesn't it defeat the purpose if you don't first create a vacuum to get most of the air out? | ||
| Lightstick |
With oil, there are different additive packages used in motorcycle engine oil compared to automobile engine oil. Would motorcycle tires need different nitrogen than automobile tires? What about truck tires? | ||
| Revz |
for a full report, more than you would ever want read this ... http://home.comcast.net/~prestondrake/N2_for_tires _FAQ.htm He also sells "mojolevers" which help to put tires on without scuffing rims. Regarding mojolevers: Not meant to offend a sponsor, not affiliated with seller and if a sponsor sells these I will gladly take this comment down, or understand if it happens... Larry | ||
| Slaughter |
DO NOT USE NON-HARLEY NITROGEN! You will void your warranty! | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Using non compliant gas may cause you to lose control of the motorcycle causing injury or DEATH, if in doubt consult your nearest authorized dealer. | ||
| Crusty |
Is H-D Syn 3 Nitrogen better than Mobil 1 Nitrogen? | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Don't tell anyone I said so, but my cousin's brother in law has a friend who's aunt used to service vending machines at the factory & apparently she said it's exactly the same stuff. Just a different label. | ||
| Slaughter |
Probably re-badged gas from Citgo. I just won't be buyin no COMMUNIST nitrogen! I only buys me air from the GOOD OL USA |
