| Author | Message | ||
     Reindog |
How can you ladies get your knickers so twisted about someone offering an opinion about IOM? Listen to yourselves as you need a timeout. Sheesh. Go rock out on IOM as that is yer right but y'all are just plainly wrong with your hurt feelings. You are being silly and weird. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
It's a time trial. Not my idea of "unparalleled" when it comes to racing. I think most fans are drawn by the thrill of the danger rather than any excitement of competition. It's a mostly a daredevil spectacle, not much more. Two dead this year already, first day of the event. Oh boy, let's go watch? Really? I just don't get it. Yes it is "Unparalleled", there is nothing like it. I've been, & like Chris ridden the course, spent two of the best weeks of my life with the M2 going, riding, watching. The pull of this event is that it isn't roundy round circuit racing with all the safety margins & gravel traps etc. It's real world racing on real roads with bikes that aren't that far from stock. I for one take my hat off to the guys & girls who race there. And yes Blake it IS racing, just because you don't get it doesn't mean it's wrong or bad. | ||
| Britchri10 |
I lap of the mountain course. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVXc29ZgutI&feature =player_detailpage | ||
| Xdigitalx |
Thanks Britchi10. I could watch that 1,00 times and still get thrilled watching. Vacation during the TT would be fantastic, (planned well in advance with good seats and hotels and food or camping) THAT is an amazing race. | ||
| Britchri10 |
I haven't been since 1979. I camped for c10 days w/friends. Do Mad Sunday once & then don't do it again! (MAD is an understatement!) It really is great stuff & the riders are all crazy. Chris C | ||
| Xdigitalx |
What motorcycle video game has the IOM course in it?? I need to study it in case I win the lottery and buy an 1190RS and plan a trip there before I croak. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
I think its called 'TT' or something. I have it. I hate it. I got it used at Blockbuster for PS2 and played it for about thirty minutes and thats it. | ||
| Britchri10 |
Playstation2 Suzuki Superbikes http://cgi.ebay.com/SUZUKI-TT-SUPERBIKES-PS2-PLAYS TATION-2-GAME-/290565743225?pt=Video_Games_Games&h ash=item43a7116279 I had it for a while. It's not that great but it is a fairly accurate representation of the mountain course. I fall off a lot in the game but not so much in real life. (Edited 'cause I'm not good @ posting links) Chris C (Message edited by britchri10 on June 04, 2011) | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/driving/isleofmanttsup erbikes/news/6089710/isle-of-man-tt-superbikes-upd ate | ||
| Greg_e |
IOM is true road racing, running it as a time trial is about the only way to make it "safe". Very similar to off road rally racing. IOM is unique and incredibly challenging, challenging in different ways from on track racing. | ||
| Oldog |
there was a music vid posted up acdc thusderstorm?? and IOM it gave you an idea of the thing. As motorcyclists do we as a whole take a chance on the loss of our lives? what little I have seen of it I understand the draw, and Blake I disagree with you only the "sick" would go for the accidents... as far as the other comments about shitting on a thread enough already.... | ||
| Etennuly |
I'm with Blake on this to his original point. The same reason I prefer to not watch Indy cars, unlimited sprint cars, bull fighting, rodeo/ bull riding, and most events or accidents involving people jumping from or stuck at extreme heights. You know the odds are someone will die or be splattered about in the event that things don't go 100 percent correctly(what are the odds of that?). When I drove dirt track race cars I usually did not watch unlimited sprint cars even at the same track on the same nights. Funny though, I would drive the fastest most dangerous things I could get my ass into(yeah for that spark that comes from the edge of life, feeling). I put a lot of effort into not watching others do it. To watch a horrendous wreck ending in an unconscious driver in an upside down burning race car and not be able to do anything about it, has an affect on your brain. I don't know what or why it is, but as you are strapping into your own seat for the next race, it goes totally out of your mind as you focus on the events at hand. I am not anti-gorish. I don't care what you want to watch or if the reason is the realism and finality of the risk. For me, I don't particularly care for gory movies either. For what ever way my brain interprets it, I would rather be doing the risk taking than watching someone else do it. For me watching someone get seriously hurt or even more seriously, dead, repulses me to the point it can make me feel ill. Why would I want to watch these events when the odds of seeing death and bodily destruction happen are so high? I suppose the opposite could be true for some who would not enter their own body in an event such as the IOM-TT. I would not go so far as to protest or even oppose the event(s). I will just find my own way to not watch the high potential of carnage. I have other shit to do, thanks. GO TT riders! Best of luck to all! | ||
| Americanmadexb |
http://www.itv.com/sport/isleofmantt/default.html Or not. Can't seem to get the video to play. Says it will have highlights everyday from tonight till next Saturday. (Message edited by americanmadexb on June 04, 2011) | ||
| Ezblast |
I had a friend - still recovering from a wreck there of over 5 years ago - who raced side car - he and his partner's favorite quote is "Racing is a dangerous sport!" He's right - it is, but so many other things are dangerous as well - hang gliding, surfing, etc. - that's the way men are wired to push the limits, and there are always consequences for pushing in the wrong way, or going beyond those safe limits - that is life. I ride for the pure fun of it, but in that experience I understand the lure and fun such a thing - racing - and surely can see the why of the sport. TT racing is just an older form and highly respected. I respect Blake's opinion even when disagreeing with it, and find this thread offensive because he is the owner of this board and has as much right to his opinion as you do yours - and shouldn't have to be called on it. Personally - get a life! Oops - wrong thread - lol EZ (Message edited by ezblast on June 04, 2011) | ||
| Fresnobuell |
"Little Leaguer dies after being hit by ball--A 13-year-old Arizona boy is killed in a freak accident that devastates a close-knit community." Anyone can die at anytime. | ||
| Danger_dave |
Thanks. | ||
| Glitch |
Or not. After I saw that the PS3 was compatible with their video, I got an error message about availability. We're in the wrong country I reckon | ||
| Fast1075 |
If someone can't understand what drives people to do exciting/risky things....they never will understand...they can't...it's not in their genetic makeup. I have slowed way down with my adventures as I have gotten older...but a few things are unforgettable...carrying the front wheel at 1000 feet on a sub-eight second pass...the unreal sensation of speed at 125mph+ in a friends drag boat...freefall at 15,000 ft...Immelmanns...land/sky/land/sky in a rock crawler...water ski jumps...damn...now I feel old. | ||
| Blake |
Harlan, >>> Anyone can die at anytime. Not so much. What are you trying to say? Seems that you are saying that participating in any recklessly life-threatening activity is no different than playing baseball. If so, that is a position that seems indefensible. The accurate statement is that one never knows what incredibly improbable accident might happen. The probability of dying while racing at the IOM is around 1%, while the probability of dying while playing little league baseball is near zero, literally less than one in a million. I've done risky things all my life and still do. I'd be thrilled to have a chance to ride around the IOM course. I'd absolutely do it. I'd not race, but I'd ride the roads just like I ride most twisty roads, with plenty of margin to spare. What I won't do is support a deadly blood sport, the folks who promote and commercialize it, and I won't glorify it. That's all. You do as you like. Thanks Tom and Ed and Vern. You've proved yourselves once again to be rational and self-confident good folks.  (Message edited by Blake on June 06, 2011) | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
rational = agreeing with Blake. Blake, I dont think anyone is promoting the deaths and using that to try to bring more people in. I've never seen any advertisement like 'watch the IOM races! There might be death to see!' And anyone CAN die at anytime. Thats fact. | ||
| Trbulnt |
Doesn't it all come down to the riders choice. They are the ones choosing to participate in this event and until no one participates it will continue to happen. Just like we have a choice to either watch and support the event or not watch and support it. | ||
| Reindog |
Aye caramba! Hybrid, stop poking your finger up yer nose and flinging boogers. Its unsightly for all to see. Let it go. Tell us about IOMTT which is an interesting topic. Reindong. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
I'd rather be flinging boogers than some of the stuff that Blake is spewing. Truth be told, I understand Blakes point, and respect his opinion. But what I dont agree with is the part where he states that they promote a blood sport. Yes, I agree, its unfortunate that people lose their lives there every year, and it is much more deadly than any other track/race. But I've never seen anyone trying to profit off of the deaths at the races | ||
| Reindog |
Good. If you understand Blake's point, then let's move along. Thanks! -Reindong. | ||
| Pwnzor |
I've been riding motorcycles since I was a kid, like many of us have. I do not follow ANY sport, barely watch any TV at all. When I see the IOMTT on the tube, I watch and enjoy what I see. I don't however, go looking for it. I get Blake's point, and if he doesn't support the event then so be it. I don't support it either, but then I don't support ANY event anywhere. I donate money to my church and occasionally I have attended the Long Beach Grand Prix. I've been to exactly ONE motorcycle race at the California Speedway and I got those tickets for free. Like I said, I don't support any event... but I don't not support them, if that makes any sense. What I don't get is the vitriol of people here who slam the board's owner when he gives his opinion....? | ||
| Blake |
Owens, >>> rational = agreeing with Blake. No, rational would be discussing the issue rather than turning the discussion personal, which would be goofy. >>> Blake, I don't think anyone is promoting the deaths and using that to try to bring more people in. I've never seen any advertisement like 'watch the IOM races! There might be death to see!' I agree. In fact they go out of their way to ever avoid mentioning the ongoing tragedy of racing there in any of their ever more aggressive promotions of the event. If they were honest, I doubt they'd have the commercial support that is growing for the event. >>> And anyone CAN die at anytime. That's fact. People on BadWeB may some day all present logical, pertinent and meaningful content too, but it's highly unlikely. Whereas if you race a motorbike on the IOM, you have about a 1% chance of leaving the island in a box. | ||
| Etennuly |
Now wait a damn minute! Hybrid has now flung a booger on me! I did not join in this conversation to have it said that I am in what ever boat he has put Blake in. Merely on this point our boats are on a parallel course. I don't necessarily think that the promoters intentionally promote this IOM TT as a blood sport simply by promoting this race event.....but in that same contention.....they do profit from it, and they obviously can read, and probably have printed the stats of the deaths on the course at this TT show and it's pre race events on their own stationary. So the question in my mind is this race actually a blood sport if it is known that 4%, give or take a little, will not survive it by competing in it. Is it the death count that makes it a blood sport? How about injuring or maiming competitors? The last pro bull riding event I watched on TV had a rider's face smashed into the head of the bull, as he fell off he was dragged around the stadium to fall to the ground unconscious to be gored and stomped by the out of control bull. The guy lived. It was a live event, saw plenty of the stricken rider's blood.....blood sport? IMHO yes. Promoted by professional promoters who knew the risk and made money on it.....yes. I will just choose what I want to watch.....or not. But please, keep your boogers out of my boat! Rational= agreeing with Blake. Not how it is defined in my dictionary. Thank you for making me seem like an ass kisser because of a similar opinion. But I've never seen anyone trying to profit off of the deaths at the races Are you NUTS? So if it is a more spectacular event because of the risk of life and limb, and more people watch it for that reason, the promoter should take a head count and give some money back?  P.T.Barnum would have had something to say about that!People the world over are driven to watch goorish things happen to other people, you cannot say they don't use it to sell seats, tickets, and advertisement. Hell, I'd bet if no one ever got hurt in any sporting event, spectating(you know....what people pay to do(ie. watching something spectacular)) would be a non profit affair. I doubt they could sell the tickets or advertising. As Nascar has found out, safer more equal cars make for boring races if no one wrecks. That is why they are now promoting rivalries and allowing bumping and a little poke and jab at the end of a race(unless your name is Childress and you pummel the head of a Bush kid who said he is no longer a bad guy).  | ||
| Redbuelljunkie |
http://www.iomtt.com/News/2011/06/06/Statement-iss ued-on-behalf-of-the-ACU.aspx So far, there have been three racer fatalities and two non-competitor rider deaths on the island. Today is the half-way point of the event- very unfortunate. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Bloodsport? They don't show death or crashes on HDNET and the certainly don't promote the riskiness of the IOM. All I see is guys hauling ass around the course... | ||
| Brumbear |
What I like about the TT is it's a pure race and we all ride so I don't have to tell you the elation one feels racing and the streets to boot it's like a kid in the candy store to me and many others.As far as it being blood sport thats the media's doing as far as I am concerned. I watch the TT because it is simply the coolest racing I have ever seen it's not a super smooth road course it's not anything modern racing has become. It is however the most demanding race on the rider and the fans should be wary at certain points as well.Add that to the party it has become for the spectaters and viola!!!!!!!! |
