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Geforce
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For those of you that have heard of him...

What are your thoughts on Mr. Cain?

Do you think he has a chance to win?
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Everyone has a chance to win.

Who would have thought a saxophone player governor would have won? Thanks Perot. : |

If there is a third candidate, Obama wins re-election like Clinton did in '92.

The more I hear from Herman Cain, the more I like him. The thing I like most about Obama is that he is black (or at least half). It's time that race is diminished as an issue. It's time the race pimps are out of business.

What would be cool is to have two black candidates to give black voters a philosophical choice where race isn't even a consideration. I believe there are many conservative black voters who held their nose and voted for Obama because of the historical event. I believe many are now regretting that vote.

I believe Cain's political and philosophic positions more closely mirror black conservative voters positions.

I want us to get to a point where we don't have to refer to someone as the "black candidate" or talk about the "black caucus" or the "black community".

An Obama/Cain election would finally remove that distinction.
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Geforce
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree with you entirely FT.

What I find most appealing about Mr. Cain is his achievements and experience as a CEO. As a business major myself I have studied his work at GodFather's and Burger King. He has some exceptional ideas about working through the economic conditions instead of throwing money on the fire.

Time will tell. I just hope he can muster up enough support to get into the debates. THAT will be an eye opening experience for many Americans.

Like all people... he isn't perfect. No one is or ever will be. I just hope he can get his things together and prepare for the attacks to come when he lays waste to the President's community organizer skills in debates.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He seems more white than Obama!! haha
What were those words Biden said about Obama?? I forget...j/k
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Cowboy
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I like his platform but he is unelectol as prez. I think he could go to the white house if he hooked up with a strong prex. canadate and ran as V.P. I am sure he could do a great job for our country. I think this is the best way to get him into the white house. My intrest is in America not who shot John.
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Geforce
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cowboy, why do you feel he is unelectable?
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Cowboy
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There in evidence of business man ever having been elected.
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Cowboy
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The same reasons D Trump could not have nade it.
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Glitch
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've known Herman for a few years now.
I can't say if he's "electable" or not, I can say however, he is very serious about common sense and how it can help America.
I first met him a few years ago when we were trying to get the word out about the Fair Tax.
He's a great public speaker.
When the Tea Party got going I met up with him again organizing rallies.
He's a great person, and an excellent businessman.
I'll support his campaign as best I can.
I think he'd make a great president, and he's defiantly got my vote.
He'll not split the party, if he doesn't get the Republican nomination, he'll publicly support the nominee.
He's said so.
He's going to make the best run he can, but he's not the type to get his ego in the way, and split the party.
He knows that'll not end well.
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Imonabuss
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would love to see him as President or VP, preferable President so we don't fall into the trap of believing diversity means socialism. He is bright, capable, articulate and honest. That probably means he doesn't have a chance...
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Geforce
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"There in evidence of business man ever having been elected."

The absence of evidence is not evidence enough to suggest that a business man can not be elected. Perhaps you mean to say that his chances are very low based upon historical data...

Either way, given what our country faces in the uncertain future... we need more people like Mr. Cain to step up to the plate and break the normal expectations of potential political candidates.

Glitch, thanks for your input. I also think he will do the best he can without breaking the party votes up too much.
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Cowboy
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 02:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is what I am saying it is that if he dont make it I would hope to see him in another posision so we dont lose him.
I hope I am not misundersstood.
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Geforce
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I gotcha now. I tend to think that many people see the need for leaders with experience and not political backgrounds alone.

Regardless of the precedents of the past we have to motivate those who CAN do a good job.

I remain optimistic though, many do not.
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Mountainstorm
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The rent is too damn high. Oops. Wrong guy.
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 06:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He would be attacked with more venom than gwb or palin imo. Progressives hate black conservatives with passion enough to assault them in public. The big labor unions would petition poor blacks to come work on their plantation of hate in an effort to paint herman as an uncle tom all the while being cloaked in sheets of racial equality and freedom of speech.
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Sifo
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The more I hear from Herman Cain, the more I like him. The thing I like most about Obama is that he is black (or at least half). It's time that race is diminished as an issue.

Unfortunately our first black President seems to have divided the country even more along race lines. Perhaps putting up another black candidate would close that division some, I'm really not sure. That isn't why I like Cain though. I just like his common sense business approach to things.

I just hope he can muster up enough support to get into the debates. THAT will be an eye opening experience for many Americans.

He was in the first debate. I only caught a bit of the debate, but still have it recorded. I did see some of the analysis afterwards done by Frank Luntz. He does some interesting things with focus groups. Cain cleaned up according to the focus group they had assembled.

I'm not sure that Cain would run as a black candidate per say. I'm really not sure what the black voters would do. It would provide them some interesting options though. If nobody is running against BO they could at least vote for Cain in the Primary, and if successful guarantee a black President in 2012. I would prefer a world where race isn't the issue though, I'm just not that naive. I really have my doubts that Cain would really win over the majority of the black vote. He really doesn't represent what the blacks seem to want to hear IMO. I would love to be proven wrong on that last part though.
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Cataract2
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't know him. Is there any place I can get the reader's digest info on him?
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Geforce
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Start here...

http://www.hermancain.com/

Then go search his name and look into his business history.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 07:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2011 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just what is the 'American' Dream
Do better than the last generation? nope
Own a house? nope
White picket fence? nope
A good paying job with a retirement? nope
marriage? at 50% attrition rate?!
A car ? pft - gas at nearing $5 a gallon?!
2.3 kids? not personally, and nationally the trend is downward, unless you are of the non professional non educated mostly entitlement

meh, see ya overseas. stupid people are indeed ruining America.
and now for your dose of tinfoil hat paranoia....
http://www.stansberryresearch.com/pro/1011PSISBBVD /PPSIM444/PR

the debasement of the dollar happens after this next election, and before the 2016. Right in line with the centinenial celebration of the first Soviet !
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, May 23, 2011 - 12:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hope he DOESN'T run as a "black candidate". I hope he runs as a candidate.

Running as a "black candidate" is like being a hyphenated American.

You are a citizen or you aren't. Adding the hyphen is like adding chrome to a Uly.

Just doesn't belong.
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, May 23, 2011 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cain is supposed to be on Hannity tonight on Fox News. I think I'll check it out.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Monday, May 23, 2011 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would love to see him take a run at it.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, May 23, 2011 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Obama has become divisive on the race issue because it suits his purposes. If things are going well, he's the first post-racial black President. If things are going poorly, it's because he's black and his opponents are racist.

The really sad part is that the majority of the people who want racial equality and an end to the divisiveness are WHITE. There is a large portion of the "black community" that is economically and politically vested in racial conflict.

Without racism to blame, black individuals will be forced to stand on their own two feet and the work of their own hands. If you are poor and black and it isn't because "the man" is keeping you down, then you have to look introspectively at yourself. You have only yourself and the choices you make in life to blame.
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Chadhargis
Posted on Sunday, May 29, 2011 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm with you Fatty. Race is irrelevant. Either you are the right person for the job or you aren't. Doesn't matter if you are black, white, brown, or purple.

Anyone who wants true equality should be against things like affirmative action, United Negro College Fund, Rainbow Coalition, NAACP, and any other organization that fosters the notion that a particular race can't advance without their help.

I like what I've heard from Herman Cain. Not because he's black, but because he's the best conservative in the running right now.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Monday, May 30, 2011 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Herman Cain is a great conservitive I hope he does well. if not in the white house in Congress.
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Dwiggs
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 - 04:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Herman Cain doesn't believe we need to audit the Federal Reserve. That alone is enough for me to place my support elsewhere.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiAkeFJXwUk

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