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     Blake |
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/may/17/se nator-questions-benefits-to-adult-baby/
Who is willing to pay taxes to support these moochers? Not I. | ||
| Blake |
Another unbelievably self-entitled moocher story: http://www.freep.com/article/20110517/NEWS06/11051 7023/Michigan-man-still-food-stamps-despite-winnin g-2M
Who is willing to pay taxes to support this moocher? Not I. | ||
| Blake |
http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/2011/05/montgo mery-council-would-put-viagra-funding-back-budget Who is willing to pay taxes so public employees can get a stiffy or stop wrinkly skin as they age? Not I. | ||
| Crusty |
There are well over 300 million people in this country, and you're getting worked up about a couple of scamming bottom feeders? Why aren't you outraged over the fact that a Senator only has to serve one term to get 100% pay with 100% full medical coverage for life? Isn't that a bigger scam? | ||
| Not_purple_s2 |
+1 Crusty! | ||
| Court |
>>>Isn't that a bigger scam? It is. I like these types of discussions . . . as EVERYBODY is right. No one is "worked up" over the lazy SOB who won $2,000,000 and is still getting food stamps . . it's just that he is a criminal and needs to be treated accordingly. The scariest part, and to Blake's point . . . is at least the Senator, like the law or not (for the record I think politicians should be paid the average wage in their district plus 25% and a COLA for the Washington area ONLY. . or something short of the wealthy welfare we currently allow them) the Senator, just like you and I when we deduct mortgage interest, is 100% within the law. Priorities. FIRST . . enforce laws. SECOND . . correct wanting laws. Scarier yet is the tried to talk to the guy today and his defense was: 1) We need to be sympathetic that "nearly half" of his $2,000,000 went to taxes. 2) Somehow he thinks we "owe" it to him. Frickin' deadbeat. | ||
| Ulynut |
Who is willing to pay the "government" of Pakistan to harbor and give aid to our enemies of war? Not I. | ||
| Xdigitalx |
stick him in a cell (yea jail/prison) with a treadmill, don't feed him unless he walks xx miles a day. Otherwise only water. And give him a daddy to play with,...no more mommy. Make him run 5 websites like the one he is running (for charities) that is all he is doing now anyways... if taxpayers are paying for him...why not pay for him to get better. Keep him there for 90/180 days. | ||
| Blake |
John (Crusty), >>> There are well over 300 million people in this country, and you're getting worked up about a couple of scamming bottom feeders? Not so much. I'm outraged at the pathetic miserable "system" that allows and supports them. I hate nanny-state-ism, aka socialism. If you think these moochers are just a few in three hundred million, I have little doubt that you would be in for a shock if truth be told. The news media rarely covers such issues. Recall in high school how many fellow students were scammers, cheats, and moochers? I recall plenty. I don't expect the proportion decreases through life's stages. | ||
| Glitch |
+35% in food stamps. I wonder how many are scammed.  | ||
| Panhead_dan |
It's so easy to scam the U.S. Government. Just ask any Mexican. In fact, in the case of Mexicans, our government seems to support it. (Now I got no beef with Mexicans. Some of my best friends are Mexican Americans. This stuff pisses them off too.) A huge amount of money could be had by trimming this fat. People talk about all the money spent on wars and humanitarian aid etc. while the real problem lies with the way all government entities are budgeted. Now I'm not saying I know how to fix it, but the problem does exist. All government entities have to spend the amount that they want (or need) for next year this year in order to qualify. I have seen money shoveled into the shitter to accomplish this firsthand. The combined amount would easily fix our country's financial problem. More to the O.P.'s point from my stinkin opinion; the bible says that one who won't work shouldn't eat. (Message edited by panhead_dan on May 18, 2011) | ||
| Pkforbes87 |
Every September at work: "Keep these jets airborne! We have to fly around in circles and burn xxx more gallons of JP-8 (similar to Kerosene) so our fuel budget isn't smaller next year!" The system is flawed. | ||
| Rocketsprink |
Rep. Graves Calls GOP’s Billions In Oil Subsidies ‘Market Manipulation;’ Forgets That He Voted To Extend Them Editor’s note: We spoke to Rep. Tom Graves (R-GA), not Rep. Sam Graves (R-MO). The name has been corrected. In February and again in March, Republicans in the House of Representatives, on a largely party-line roll call, voted to extend tens of billions in taxpayer subsidies to big oil companies. At the sparsely attended “Continuing Revolution” Tea Party rally on Thursday calling for more budget cuts, we talked to a number of attendees about their thoughts on Republicans giving so much taxpayer money away to already ultra-profitable oil companies. Rep. Tom Graves (R-GA) was among the many lawmakers to vote twice to extend over $50 billion in taxpayer subsidies to the oil companies: – House Vote 153 on H.J.Res.44: Graves voted to extend billions in oil subsidies. – House Vote 109 on H.R.1: Graves voted to extend billions in oil subsidies. However, when we caught up with Graves yesterday, he said he had no idea that the vote had taken place. He didn’t seem to remember voting for them. In fact, after pressing the congressman, Graves called the idea of giving oil companies taxpayer subsidies “a manipulation of the market place”: FANG: Four billion dollars in oil subsidies that the Congress just passed to extend for the next ten years maybe forty billion for the next ten years to oil companies. Do you agree with that type of subsidy given the state our budget and deficit? GRAVES: Uh, when was that passed? I’m not aware of what you’re speaking. FANG: It was in the continuing resolution debate. I think the Democrats raised a point of order to vote on it and it passed. GRAVES: Hm. Yeah as far as subsidies, I mean I believe in the free market system all together, the capitalism system one hundred percent. Let the markets determine who is going to succeed throughout the market place. KEYES: Do you think those subsidies are an aberration of the free market? GRAVES: I mean they definitely influence the market place. Its somewhat of a manipulation of the market place if products aren’t willing, aren’t able to succeed on their own because of consumer demand and likeness of that product then why should government get in there and manipulate it? And Glitch. thanks for posting the list above that your buddy GWB dumped on us and is still having adverse effects. Wanna give GWB credit for the Bin Laden thing? then he can also take the credit for F'ing this country over. He did a masterful job. So, where are all the jobs the republicans promised to help create during the last election cycle? Probably would help even out the above list. How's the whole job creating thing working out for y'all? | ||
| Rocketsprink |
And your all okay with corporate welfare? Wow. | ||
| Reindog |
Rocco conveniently forgets that Congress, controlled by the Democratic Party, is mostly responsible for this mess. Look at the acceleration of spending since January 2009. Nice try, Rocco, but blaming Bush is only part of the problem. I give Obama credit for Osama Porn Laden. I give Bush credit for Osama Bin Wackin. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
I could go overseas, come back in two years with a new id, new accent, a tan, and bilk the system raw. because as single white able bodied american male (no kids, not married, not criminal, not disabled), I am entitled to nothing and afforded no collar. As recent immigre from Ukraine, grants for house, care, phone, job networking, of course food, community assistance, medical benefits, AND i dont have to pay taxes ! I see it every week. If you reset ALL the entitlements to equal what the SWABM is eligible for, I bet that budget gets balanced real fast. It would work the same for Julio or Jose, I just dont speak any Spanish. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Rocco, what "subsidies" do the oil companies get and what is the total value of these subsidies? Break them down for us. Don't just parrot what some partisan hack stated. I'll bet you can't. More importantly, what are the real "benefits" the oil companies receive vs. what they pay in Federal taxes? Please think critically and don't just cut and paste from specious Progressive outlets. http://thinkprogress.org/2011/04/02/graves-oil-subsidies-forgot/ (Message edited by ft bstrd on May 19, 2011) | ||
| Cowboy |
Damn City--- I sure wish you could show me how to do that. my grand son Has just spent 2 yrs and $30,000.00 getting his wife here. | ||
| Danger_dave |
>> I just dont speak any Spanish.<< And you look like George. | ||
| Aesquire |
Glitch, if you extend the chart there back to when the Dem's took over Congress, it's even worse. Ironic that the Dem's got back in when the Rep's spent too much money and got kicked out..... I hear the mantra like clockwork. "oil companies get corporate welfare" and who voted for that? Politicians of both parties that got "campaign funds". ( this is why I bitch at my union for only bribing one party. Obviously you get better deals for bribing both. Ask Exxon. Or Enron. Or ADM. ) "We need to tax the rich." Really? the math does not support that. The concept is a hate based manipulation of stupid people. I'd call it Marxist, but it's older than that by a few thousand years. "hate the rich" is a sure sign of evil intent to screw the masses. Thinking that we are "the masses" confirms the evil intent behind the propaganda. I defy anyone to find a movement that uses "hate the rich" to gain power that isn't evil. ( gains power and wealth for themselves while stealing money and freedom from those stupid people who cling to.......) Dare you. And, if you buy those mantras, ask yourself, am I just a tool? Or am I really evil too? We have a really nasty congressional race going in NY right now. The incumbent quit after his ad on Craigslist with a no shirt pic trying to get laid came to national attention. He was married ( a temporary condition, I'm sure ) and Republican so out he goes. Now we have a lying sack D, a lying sack R, and a D running on the Tea party ticket, even though the Tea party says he isn't one of them. Viola! more than one tea party. Oh, and he's a lying sack too. ( since it's not actually a party, you apparently can lie about that with relative impunity. ) The ads are so obviously lies from ALL of them that the only honorable thing to do is exile them all to a Afghan cave, dynamite the entrance, and get new candidates. Since this is NY, We're going to get the most dishonest one. ( who do you think taught Chicago dirty politics? Des Moines? } As for the people scamming the social services system.... After the lottery guy admits to fraud, if nothing is done, arrest the attorney general. Convict him of fraud for his salary. Better yet, sue for malpractice. | ||
| Pammy |
Let me throw this out there for you. The oil companies are capitalist entities, no? As such will do what they can to protect profits and "bottom line". Just like me and any other business owner. So if extra taxes are levied and/or subsidies denied, who do you think will carry that burden? The "company"? If that is what you think, you are very naive. As any business will do, has to do, the costs will be passed on to the consumer. And the cycle continues.... Thing is, most, if not all businesses are consumers of this particular product (oil) in some form or fashion, so it effects every single aspect of life. Food, packaging, freight, on and on. It serves a purpose to keep society moving right along so you might call it a necessary evil. What necessity does a deadbeat welfare grifter, sucking the life out of society, offer? You know I was thinking that in the wild animals are better off if not molly coddled by outside influences. In fact their very survival depends on being able to hone the skills required to make a life for themselves and their families. You are always told not to interfere (with nature)as it will cause the animal to become dependent and typically have a devastating, life altering effect on it's survival. Yet we injure and alter millions of our own species every day by disabling them with our "charity" to the point that they have absolutely zero survival skills. This continues on through generations... Just my observation and opinion. A world wide weaning...and a sustainable solution is needed. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
"World wide weaning" That's what they call war. | ||
| Reindog |
The mantras of "the rich should be taxed more" or "the rich should pay their fair share" are nothing but code words enabling politicians to raise the taxes of the middle class. The tables from the IRS have been posted here numerous times and the only people NOT paying their fair share of taxes is the lower 47% of households who pay NOTHING or get tax credits. I personally believe (although it would require a Constitutional amendment) that EVERYONE has to have skin in the game so as long as the IRS exists, then only those who pay taxes should be allowed to vote. The looters and moochers will bring dictatorship as predicted by deTocqueville in 1821. Our Founding Fathers were similarly concerned. C'mon people. This isn't rocket science but the lefties never respond to this obvious truth. What say you? | ||
| Glitch |
Using Rocco's logic, the chart I posted is going in the right direction, only not fast enough. It took Bush 8 years to get what Obama multiplied many times over in only 2 years. Have an original thought Rocco, you may begin to make sense, though I really rather doubt it. | ||
| Gregtonn |
"...get a stiffy or stop wrinkly skin..." In my experience the first will indeed stop the second.  G | ||
| Glitch |
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| Pammy |
"That's what they call war." I disagree. As far as taxpayers being the only voters. I wholeheartedly agree with that. This country was founded on the "No taxation without representation" format. I think it should go the other way as well. No representation, without taxation. If you don't pay taxes, you don't represent. In business, you don't get to participate in any voting process unless you are a stockholder. I am just feeling expressive today. | ||
| Cowboy |
Damn Pammy you are on a roll today--and I might add right on target. It just proves what I have been saying for the last few YRs. We need more women in goverment It seems like all the male politions have been GELDED. Tks for the post. | ||
| Crusty |
I am really tempted to jump in here, but it would serve no useful purpose; and it could possibly cause me to form a really negative opinion about somebody who I would otherwise like. | ||
| Pammy |
Crusty, don't dislike me for my strong opinions....dislike me cause I'm a mean ol' bitch.  Just a friendly debate here. |
