G oog le BadWeB | Login/out | Topics | Search | Custodians | Register | Edit Profile


Buell Forum » Quick Board » Archives » Archive through May 21, 2011 » Dirtbike, no battery « Previous Next »

Author Message
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2011 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Im pretty new to dirtbikes but I had this thought/question yesterday - is it possible to run a dirtbike with no battery?

I was thinking of things like generators and gokarts, no batteries, just didnt know if the engines in dirtbikes were any different and needed the battery.

I do have a dirtbike currently, it has a battery, but its got electric start.
Im on no other bike sites except this one, so thought I'd ask here

Yall have a good night

go
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Gunut75
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2011 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would look into battery eliminator kits. All they give you is a big capacitor to take the battery's place.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2011 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gunut, thanks, its not something Im looking into doing to my motorcycle, just didnt know if a properly setup (carb) motorcycle with a kickstart could run fine with no battery.

I'll be honest, it was one of those 'crazy world disaster' thoughts - if an EMP attack came or something, would a dirtbike still work fine? It was that sort of thing that led me to this question
Sorry, I like historical books, biographies/autobiographies etc etc....and zombie and apocalyptic stuff. blame the books : )
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kenm123t
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2011 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Impulse Magneto
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Pkforbes87
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 12:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ride my Yamaha Zuma (50cc) every day with no battery. Blinkers some times blink faster or slower than they're supposed to.. but oh well. Losing the battery on that little thing was a huge % weight loss.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Froggy
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get in touch with Cityxslicker if you want to prepare for a disaster or zombie outbreak.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Ohsoslow
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

most "true" dirt bikes dont have batteries, the dual sport and some more trail oriented bikes have batteries.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Nillaice
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 03:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

it is very common for a motor to run without a battery, it uses a magneto to generate spark.
there is enough energy generated that you can run a headlight and some signals off it too, just don't short across your 'spark' lead

if it allready has a battery, you'll need something, like a capacitor as stated above, to replace it
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Ridenusa4l
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 04:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

kick start anyone??

Jake
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Maxbuell
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 05:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a 4 stroke 250 4 wheeler, it is suppose to have a battery have never had one in it. I just pull start it starts right up headlights work as well..
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Dfishman
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 05:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My Honda XR650R has no battery.It runs fine.At idle the blinkers will not blink,but just above idle everything works fine.I used to have an old Triumph hardtail chopper with no battery too.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Trojan
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 06:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Batteries on durt bikes are a relatively new thing really. Most 2 stroke dirt bikes never had batteries/lights/starters and just needed a good kick into life.

Batteries have only started to get common on off road bikes since electric start and fuel injection/fuel pumps/lights and other techno frippery etc started to appear : (

A few years ago I had a mental Alfer 250cc 2 stroke Supermoto that was road registered but had no battery or ignition switch. I had to chain it to the local Pit Bull whenever I left it anywhere : )



Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

None of my dirt bikes have batteries.

Two risks that I have figured out:

1) The battery is like a big spring and absorbs energy. Without it, your voltage regulator takes much more of a beating. That being said, I haven't lost one yet.

2) If you are on the street and the motor dies, you have no lights. This was an issue on my dual sported street legal KLR-250, not so much on the pure dirt bikes.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

no battery on the Sikk.... except for the one that powers the Cat Eye Mt bike lights.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you for all of the replies and information
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Just_ziptab
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 07:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Most lawn mowers don't have batteries...although the newer "high society" ones do. Can't imagine not having the gumption to start a push mower,yet still have enuf energy to push it around the yard.
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Kenm123t
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Zip you need to meet up with Floratam grass self propelled at least Rider is prefered something like a Dixie chopper they have Dual engined Diesel Mower! Floratam is like spongy horizontal bamboo
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message

Natexlh1000
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My first street-legal bike was a KLR250. It was a kick start so the battery it had was pretty damn small. I allowed it to die because, you know,
I kickstart it and the lights come on. After a while of this, it REALLY died and kinda dragged my charging circuit down to 8V.
It ran fine since the ignition was separate from the charging system.
I removed the battery from the bike and ran like that for a while.
The only bad thing with running with no battery was that the tach didn't work right.
I finally gave up and got the $17 battery from walmart : )

In hindsight, I think if I added a large capacitor, I would wager that the tach and flashers would have worked fine.
« Previous Next »

Add Your Message Here
Post:
Bold text Italics Underline Create a hyperlink Insert a clipart image

Username: Posting Information:
This is a public posting area. Enter your username and password if you have an account. Otherwise, enter your full name as your username and leave the password blank. Your e-mail address is optional.
Password:
E-mail:
Options: Post as "Anonymous" (Valid reason required. Abusers will be exposed. If unsure, ask.)
Enable HTML code in message
Automatically activate URLs in message
Action:

Topics | Last Day | Tree View | Search | User List | Help/Instructions | Rules | Program Credits Administration