| Author | Message | ||
     Blake |
This is ridiculous. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/apr/28/fe ds-sting-amish-farmer-selling-raw-milk-locally/?pa ge=all#pagebreak | ||
| Pkforbes87 |
Sounds like the FDA has too much time and tax money on their hands, and nothing productive to do with any of it. | ||
| Bikertrash05 |
Absolutely ridiculous. A YEARLONG sting, for Amish and raw milk, nice use of taxes. Sounds like they operated legally, but that doesn't matter, when you've spent a year, you are going to come up with results no matter what. "He instead formed a club and had customers sign an agreement stating they supported his operation, weren’t trying to entrap the owners, and that they would be shareholders in the farm’s produce, paying only for the farmer’s labor." | ||
| Just_ziptab |
I drank A LOT of raw milk growing up. What ever "Bossey" was laying on.........her poo,piss,mud,other farm animal's poo....... was encrusted on her udders as well as what ever was encrusted on my Uncle's,my Dad's or my hands. Some of it simply HAD to flake off into the milk bucket..as well as any of the dirt in the air blowing around the barn or with carrying the open bucket to the house. Never mind the not so sanitary cream separator in the basement. It was simply rinsed out when done............no soap,no nothing. A glass of that today would kill 99% of any modern day sanitary freak in an instant............which would be a good thing.........  | ||
| Whisperstealth |
Germs are good. They kill aliens. Just ask Tom Cruise.  | ||
| Rpm4x4 |
I consume nearly a gallon of raw milk weekly for the last 38 years...(Dad is a dairy farmer) Im pretty sure thats the way it was intended to be drank. | ||
| Cowboy |
As a ranch/farm raised kid I was 17 yrs. old before having pasturized milk.@ almost 75 yrs old and still going strong I guess it is ok. | ||
| Danger_dave |
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| Jaimec |
...if you're a CALF. | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
My grandpa gave me a glass of still warm fresh from the cow milk when I was a pup. BLLAAAARRSGHDKJHDJKHSLA!!! Not cool grandpa. It's definitely an acquired taste. | ||
| Birdy |
Shame when Amish go bad. I mean what's next? CARS????  Yep Our tax dollars at work. | ||
| Iamike |
Just like OSHA, they've covered the major issues affecting job safety. Now to justify themselves they just nitpick. | ||
| Andymnelson |
blech! I can't stand milk, and honestly I never understood those who like it so much....we are the only species that drinks another species milk- that's nasty! | ||
| Slaughter |
You know where milk COMES FROM??? Next thing you know, we'll be pulling food out of a chicken's A S S. OH WAIT A MINUTE.... | ||
| Just_ziptab |
Next thing you know, we'll be pulling food out of a chicken's A S S. Damn it Slaughter,you just reminded me of "Two girls,one cup"...........barf! | ||
| Blackm2 |
I would buy from that guy. A half gallon of raw milk costs 9 bucks here. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
my neighbor down the block has goats, I get a quart of fresh goat milk once a week, and two dozen fresh eggs. A mile and a half down the road is a butcher that only specializes in local grown farm fresh meats. I walk to both stores, and walk back. I have not changed my diet.... I have lost 45 pounds in 6 months. they can keep their chemical irratiated meat, milk and eggs. come after my locals.... and well 'Cows with guns' indeed. | ||
| Etennuly |
So are you saying that the goat's milk and eggs as well as the fresh meat is what has you loosing weight and controlling your diet? Damn, I just looked for goat's eggs. Can't find them here!  | ||
| Cityxslicker |
dont make me put a damn comma in there, somnabiatch goat's milk fresh banty eggs local dead cow, pig, turkey, lamb, goat. and if you look at the Jared's diet, its not that he ate subways.... its that he WALKED to and from the subway shop for every meal. and yes, it works. | ||
| Whisperstealth |
City +1 I had lost at one point 140 pounds. Walking was a huge, huge factor along with a low carb diet. The weight I've gained back is due from eating crap food and not exercising. | ||
| Danger_dave |
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| Benm2 |
Raw milk is legal in PA, and we switched to it about a year and a half ago. Kids allergies better, less colds, and so on. But - I'm really hesitant to disclose the source to anyone, even though it is a fully licensed and legal operation. It is precisely because of the article above - either some government FDA agent or some sue-happy dirtbag will get the operation shut down. There are safe ways to get it, and to make sure its safe, even without pastuerizing it. If you think this is bad, you should read about glyphosphate. | ||
| Blake |
You mean "glyphosate" aka Round-Up herbicide and the like? | ||
| Etennuly |
Why the hell is it that we cannot choose? If I go to a farm and buy a half gallon of whole farm fresh farm milk, why does that even have a legal ramification? Must be the control of the GOT MILK legislators. It should be my choice if I want to purchase something whole and real, verses socially protected for my own safety. No doubt pasteurization is a great idea. The vast majority of people live far enough from a farm that it is the only way for them to safely get milk. City......  Sorry, I couldn't help myself. Since it is not in stores, I'm off to the goat farm to see if I can do a little "collecting"! | ||
| Benm2 |
Glyphosate - sorry I spelled it wrong. Yes, that's the one. The rise of GMO corn that has been modified to give it resistance to glyphosate is scary to me. I drive past cornfields that are filled with green in the spring, then sprayed & planted with corn. The resulting field is a mass of deal plants with the corn rising up above. I just don't believe that its safe. Raw milk is harder to make right. You can't just boil it to fix it, it has to be right coming out of the cow. Commercial milk is a race to the bottom: I know commerical dairy farmers just scraping by in my former hometown. I honestly don't understand the race to the bottom for food costs - fundamentally you get what you pay for. We pay $8 a gallon for ours, and drive 60 miles every weekend to get it. Its worth every penny to me, I've met the farmer face to face, I know his name, and I drive past his pasture and see the cows on the way. | ||
| Blake |
>>> I just don't believe that its safe. Based on what? | ||
| Teeps |
Just_ziptab Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2011 I drank A LOT of raw milk growing up. Your description of milk delivery details almost to the letter, my experience living on my uncle's farm, in Ark. in the 60's. Now, we know better..... | ||
| Benm2 |
Blake - based on my research. We did alot of reading before the switch, and what I found I didn't like. There's plenty of information about it on the internet. As with most funded research, there is conflicting information - that's both for the GMO corn (glyphosate) and for the hazards of raw milk. Read what you like and draw your own conclusions. From our perspective, our kids get less allergies and get sick less often since we switched. YMMV. Ben | ||
| Blake |
Ben, >>> Based on my research. Let me try again. Ben, what did you find in your research that led you to conclude that the corn is not safe? | ||
| Benm2 |
Blake - I can't play, sorry. If you really want to know, Google is your friend. | ||
| Slaughter |
Raw sex Raw milk You could do a whole lot worse | ||
| Blake |
Was just wondering what your reasoning was, Ben. Thanks for the anti-discussion.  | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Just got back from the farm ! Farmer Josephine was kind enough to offer up a 3lb supply of local crawfish ! Local producers for the win. Keep your corporate box behemouths. I love livin in the middle o nowhere; seems the center of my little world. | ||
| Benm2 |
Sorry Blake. The only engineering work I could find requires that I travel 20% of the time, overseas. When I'm home, I'm supporting projects in two time zones, 5 and 6 hours earlier. The rest of the time when I'm home I play Mr. Mom since my wife has a 30-mile commute each way. I know how in-depth you like to get in these debates, and I can't let myself get dragged in. We switched to an all-organic diet about 2 years ago, and the milk was part of the switch. At the time, I did a lot of research into synthetic pesticides. Glyphosate is used in growing corn, cotton, and soybeans. The parent company, Monsanto, has developed GMO foods that are resistant to glyphosate. They own the patents and sell the seed. Farmers can't save seeds, and aren't allow to collect & regrow from season to season. In addition now weeds are growing that are resistant to glyphosate, resulting in a search for different pesticides. The latest development has been to develop glyphosate resistant alfalfa, bringing yet another food into the milk foodchain. Ben |
