| Author | Message | ||
     Moxnix |
Obama is still a boob. We have lots of boobs in politics. He is just another of a long line. | ||
| Whatever |
Actually, the oil industry was shut down after the BP spill as a reaction to it... and I also do not agree with that as a policy as well... The re-structuring and re-licensing of off shore wells in the Gulf needed to be concurent with the investigationa and cleanup efforts... Jobs going abroad started happening in mass long before Obama... Sorry I can't respond to the rest of your post as it doesn't really make sense to me... | ||
| Reepicheep |
Char, if you think big money isn't behind *both* sides, you are kidding yourself. Republicans just lie about that fact less. I also don't think its a solvable problem. When everyone wants *something*, those with means will more successfully find ways to achieve those ends. By lobbying people, by lobbying government, by creating organizations, you name it. Big money will always be one sure path to big influence. As will "big religion", "big media", "big educational institutions", "big actors", "big unions", etc. It's a bipartisan problem for sure, and I think the solution is probably more about making it transparent then trying to eliminate it. Otherwise you are just trying to dig a basement below the water table... | ||
| Whatever |
I am positive the ban on massive oil production on the north slope pre-dated Obama (I remember working to support it in the late 1980's) and the BP spill as well (2010 just in case you were wondering)... so I don't really see how that is related either... I believe we need to open the north slope up... very slowly with a decent and unbiased Environmental Impact Statement study as well... if such a thing actually exists... | ||
| Madduck |
I like how the lefties always change the subject from "natural Born" citizen to just citizen. There are many experts that are currently debating the subject of exactly who is "natural born" citizen. There currenty is only one class of citizen who is deemed "natural born" by every expert. Both parents were citizens at the time of birth and the birth was on american soil. Every other option has been questioned by several real constitutional experts. There is no definitive legal determination on these other choices. Obamas Natural born status is in question as was McCains. No court ever ruled on either. Technically we had a fraudulent election and are entitiled to a "do over" just because the US Senate knew of McCains' questionable status and allowed the election to proceed. | ||
| Whatever |
Big money was behind Hillary Clinton and John Kerry for sure... I was not making a generalization about the Democratic Party there... I was talking about Obama in particular... But I guess people can fabricate evidence of that... when you have a news reporter that spews out that "wasn't meant to be factual" and he gets no censure for it... | ||
| Kenm123t |
Whatever High oil prices are your fault then. | ||
| Whatever |
Yeah... oh well... sux to be you... do what I did and un-insure and un-register your car... invest in some hard bags and only pay for gas that will get you 50+ miles per gallon on the Buell...  If you have little kids you are screwed... | ||
| Whatever |
At least McCain supported campaign finance reform, which is more than I cay say for most other politicians... | ||
| Whatever |
I am right handed by the way...  | ||
| Drkside79 |
+ 1000 to Char on almost every one of her posts. @ JB2 You want to tell me to stay on topic? Please reread the tread title as you brought up the F'n Patriot Act not me. I just pointed out that other people besides Muslims blow shit up. Google the IRA for details. | ||
| Xdigitalx |
Can anyone remind me of any true "Greatness" this president has shown since being elected? I must be blind as a bat... | ||
| Moxnix |
The chosen one is great at getting people to, using the Chinese term, "break their own rice bowl." | ||
| Moxnix |
Well now, the "left" doesn't want US tobacco companies exporting overseas and taking advantage of the weak dollar, as it might harm someone's health. On the other hand, the "left" stopped mineral extraction, drilling for oil, etc, here n the US because it might harm someone's health, and now the no-enviro rules in the developing world are polluting water, toxifying other countries, harming children like in the Nigerian delta around leaking oil rigs. The "left" enjoys shooting itself, and every sordid domestic capitalist enterprise, in the foot. | ||
| Davegess |
"natural born" The only "expert" that would matter on the definition of this term is the Supreme Court. They have never defined the term nor have then been asked to AFAIK. The birther crusade was a waste of time and in many ways a disgusting appeal to many peoples latent racism. | ||
| Blake |
Dave, The birther "crudade", "latent racism"? 1. Folks want to be sure their president was a citizen of America since birth as required by law. As his FATHER was NOT an American citizen, and as his original birth certificate was for some reason MIA, then it was a 100% valid question. 2. I have no doubt that if Obama were white, the issue would have been raised just as vigorously. Your racist accusation is despicable to me and deeply insulting to thoughtful American patriots everywhere. The man was elected president. How !#@$%ing racist can America be? I agree about the waste of time. Why the @#$% didn't Obama release his birth certificate from the start? Please answer that. The whole thing stinks. | ||
| Madduck |
Sorry Dave but you are wrong on the Supreme Court. they have been asked repeatedly to rule on this subject and have declined to take up the case. Lots of federal courts have been avoiding this case because for hundreds of years the court system have been blind tools of the popular political ideology of the day. The birther movement and the tea party movements are about returning this country to a constitutional republic. If they don't start showing real signs of success soon you will become aware of the next phase. Real militias which will be returing to the declaration of independence, not the constitution, for their guidance. | ||
| Milt |
I usually don't get involved in brawls, but I think the subject of who is a citizen is established law. I don't think it gets any clearer than this.
Italics mine. | ||
| Blake |
Citizenship is not the issue. The issue raised is the question of "natural born" citizenship, the constitutional prerequisite for presidential candidates or those in line to succeed to the presidency. | ||
| Cowboy |
As he has been the most decitful human I have ever seen I wander what he is up to while this smoke screen is being put up. Lets just watch with a careful eye for a few weeks.(Like Egypt he could not wait to over throw that goverment. now as of this morning they are leaning to Iran.) | ||
| Madduck |
Up to, change the subject, GDP was 1.9% not the 3.1% that his government had forecast. Would have been huge news but for the birth certificate release. Always find the money trail. | ||
| Hootowl |
"If you have little kids you are screwed..." Not if they're really little. You can put them in the hard bags. | ||
| Whatever |
That is true... maybe put a few breather tubes in the bottom of the hard bags... | ||
| Swordsman |
Whatever, I'm sure BO being half black may be the cause for suspicion in some, but I suspect a lot of peoples' ears pricked more at the Muslim name. Muslim terrorists are popping up all over and suddenly there's a guy running for President that sounds like he's one of them? Coincidence, sure, but considering all the "natural born" Muslim nutjobs that have surfaced, I'd say its an understandable reaction. BO's track record thus far simply hasn't done him any favors. ~SM | ||
| Whatever |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald_trum p_addresses_republican_groups_in_las_vegas_whistle _stop/2011/04/28/AFCnKo9E_story.html?wprss=rss_hom epage sounds like trump is losing it... he also uses a double negative if he is quoted correctly... time to take the meds again donald... | ||
| Moxnix |
So, little Barry attends a muslim school in Indonesia? I guess he must have been a visiting Jehova's Witness when he spoke to school chums of his childhood dream of becoming the president of Indonesia. Personally, I enjoy a good conspiracy theory. So, Soros, et al, are not crashing the US economy and Obama is not his sock puppet? So, Obama is killing the American middle class, but he tells them it's raining while he p*ss*s on their backs? So, Obama hangs out with verified terrorists in Chi Town, but they had no influence on him? Keep giving away the store and someday no one will have anything to eat. | ||
| Whatever |
St. Francis of Asisi School sounds suspiciously Muslim to me... | ||
| Whatever |
Whatever, you guys, I think I made my point... have fun electing Trump to the Presidency... maybe Beck will run with him...  | ||
| Hootowl |
Trump and Beck both make some salient points. Neither are presidential material. Neither is BO, IMHO. | ||
| Kenm123t |
John Bolton Should be our Next Pres he gets its. I dont care for Trump we have worked with him in so fla on buildings leave your wallet home bring your gun |
