You couldn't have found an image of an actual long form birth certificate from HI. It's been made clear that these documents are not released. Only in the case of The One could they make an exception. I have to call shenanigans on this one.
How was he born a day earlier than the lady on the other document but the number in the upper right of his is a higher number than hers? Did they issue them in reverse order?
-J5
(see my next post - it addresses this question - if anyone is interested)
Legal experts today say a "Natural Born Citizen" is either someone born within the United States, OR the child of a US Citizen. In other words, even if he WAS born in Kenya, his mother's citizenship has NEVER been in dispute and he would STILL be a "Natural Born Citizen."
Sorry, WRONG. I'm not going to wet nurse you but go do some research on what "natural born" means as it pertains to the time period in which the Constitution was written. True, it isn't defined and the Supreme Court has never given an opinion on the subject. It's also a moot point, however, it's just one more chip in the Constitution.
You are only partially correct. If only one parent is a US citizen then their offspring are also US citizens no matter where the birth takes place. BUT, if the birth takes place off US soil then a person can be president only if BOTH his parents were US citizens at the time of his birth; as was the case with John McCain who was born in Panama.
Actually, the Canal Zone was an American Territory at the time of McCain's birth. And as the Jews will tell you (regarding Obama's parentage), you ALWAYS know the mother... the father, not so much.
Sorry, WRONG. I'm not going to wet nurse you but go do some research on what "natural born" means as it pertains to the time period in which the Constitution was written. True, it isn't defined and the Supreme Court has never given an opinion on the subject. It's also a moot point, however, it's just one more chip in the Constitution.
Go ahead... "Wet Nurse" me. I can take it. PS: I already DID my research... that's why I made the statement I did.
BTW, in what way were the birthers wrong? They wanted confirmation that the person taking the oath of office (over 2 years ago now) was eligible to do so. That's considered wrong? Seriously??? I would just like to see a hint of the transparency that was promised us.
I CAN'T BELIEVE ITS NOT BUTTER !!! MOTHERF*CKER !!!
I have watched it six times and I still laugh out loud... kinda takes away a little of the sting over the complete friggin absurdity of this argument...
Who thinks this sh*t up ?
I wonder if BO had a white mother and an Italian father, or wait a white mother and a Irish father, or wait... nevermind... PLEEEEEASE GET A LIFE PEOPLE !
I remember McCain having to qualify himself just because he was running. I say if there's any question I have no problem with proving eligibility. I have to prove my eligibility when I apply for a job too. No big deal for most of us.
I have long thought the "birther" thing was brilliant. It came originally from Hillary's team, and Barry's guys have brilliantly carried this on for almost 4 years!
Anyone, ANYONE, who disagrees with the President can be called a birther and therefor be insane, and lose all credibility. Brilliant.
And....now that the Donald has "forced" Barry to admit, in public, that he was born, The Donald can now go on to demand his 3rd grade class notes. Then! we will know. Finally! how he draws kittens!
Stalker, I too wondered if he'd been decanted from a bottle in a north Korean laboratory, a secret clone on Kim Il-Sung. Created so that Kim Jong-Il could have his father back.
Alas for the poor tubby Supreme Leader, the Cloning gear, captured from the Japanese after their defeat by the Great Satan, America ( and their hated Allies ) turns out to have been a German device, using Vrill energy, that was shipped to Japan by submarine. It seems to have been contaminated by some previous attempt to clone Hitler, before the nazi's gave up and just put Hitler's brain in that damn Robot. ( thank goodness it's still frozen in Antarctica. We all owe a dept to Dr. "Indiana" Jones. A pity the facts of the matter will never be completely Known. ) ( ok, some of the facts will come out in the next movie. I'm waiting for "Cowboys and Aliens" )
Union-man? SEIU? CPUSA? ACORN? Gee, I'm in a Union, too. Bought American Motorcycle too. Like the Constitution, will criticize those who disregard it. No matter the party. You?
What is the deal with Palin and her kid being hers? I mean, whats it matter, she holds no office so why target her?
The MO vid about the home country - that rules. How does this stuff get said and people are cool with it? There truly is no real excuse for that wording. You dont see anyone walking around talking about their home country when speaking of where their father is from, that just doesnt make sense.
I said it in the other thread, if all of that is true, it needs to stay tight lipped. It'd look really bad to the rest of the world if we cant even follow our own rules on who can be president
And I feel that things like birth certificates can easily, and quickly, be forged if need be when youre talking about people in power positions like these. The politicians have what it takes - money and power - to make stuff happen. It sucks, but it is what it is.
Frankley, I can't imagine many Harley types here enamored with the Obama..? It kind of speaks volumes of your affiliations in life, your leanings. Like being a weekend warrior or badass. Reguardless I'll give your due, I just don't have to agree with your leanings. If your keen on the erosion of freedoms and move towards socalism and the forced down your throat obamacare, so be it. Personally I have no problem calling you 'the problem' I just hope that TRUMP actually goes through with his bid for the Presidency and follows through. I think he can win by a hefty margin, if not by a landslide. One things for sure, he coult spend a Billion, (he can afford it) on even finding out haw many hairs are on obamas ass if need be. He will make obama transparent before its all said and done, or be assasinated like Kennedy and MLK . At Any rate I side with and support TRUMP, and am prowd of it and make NO apologies!!! There you have it, fire away.....