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Union_man
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://tinyurl.com/The-Presisdent-was-Born-Here
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Nukeblue
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

nice distraction, wonder what the fed is gonna say today?
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Sayitaintso
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hope it FINALLY puts the distraction to rest....now lets get some work done on the things that need getting done....balance the budget NOW, not a plan that will start going into effect in 3-4 years.

It is so easy for politicians (spit) to come up with plans that dont kick in for several years. The next plan for major change that takes effect the year that it is proposed, that I hear about, will be the first one I've EVER heard of.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

we're abandoning the george and the abe, andthere will be a new currency on a $3 note with Obamas face on it, having no inherent cash value to it, but only in garner to trade value for carbon credits, yen deficit spending trade disparities, graft for political payments, and of course the new standard to replace foodstamps...?
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So I guess the most recent claim that it couldn't be legally released was a lie too. Not surprising because I've never heard of such a thing.

This should have been released 3 years ago. Thanks BO for purposefully distracting the people from real issues, like how the dollar has been devalued so drastically.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FAKE! I can do better in photoshop!
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This won't silence the birthers. They're too emotionally invested in it at this point. Just like folks with Bush Derangement Syndrome who believe he stole the election, facts hold little sway over their belief system.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I didnt know he was a Jr, how about that
Not surprising though, as nothing is ever really mentioned of his parents other than where his dad was from
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Pellis
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ask why it was released today.
WATCH the other hand.
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P47b
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just makes me ask more questions.

Why the photocopy placed in a digital boarder?
Why so long to show it?
Why is there a date April 25 2011 on the document?

I have more questions that that.....
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The more FACTS disprove an OPINION, the more the people holding the erroneous opinion are going to dig in to cling to their erroneous belief.

By the way, interesting fact: Although the Constitution DOES say a person must be a "Natural Born Citizen" in order to hold the office of the President, NOWHERE is "Natural Born Citizen" defined in the Constitution.

Legal experts today say a "Natural Born Citizen" is either someone born within the United States, OR the child of a US Citizen. In other words, even if he WAS born in Kenya, his mother's citizenship has NEVER been in dispute and he would STILL be a "Natural Born Citizen."
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

April 25th was the day the records were requested. But thank you for proving MY point.
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Cowboy
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Monea to ponder-- As you can see his father was Aferican , so he automaticaly get his father citizen ship as that makes him a dual citizen so what is the law on dual and when did he denounce his fathers home land . It just dont stop.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the birthers made at least one important point they wanted to make... that Obama was either lying or foolish.

He claimed he would have the most open and transparent administration we have ever seen.

This was either a foolish thing to promise, or something he knew was a lie. The birthers beating on him for 2 years just kept reinforcing this point.

Makes me wonder what the "birther book" coming out will have to say. The sudden release feels like preemptive damage control for something significant.
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Strokizator
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In other words, even if he WAS born in Kenya, his mother's citizenship has NEVER been in dispute and he would STILL be a "Natural Born Citizen."

You are only partially correct. If only one parent is a US citizen then their offspring are also US citizens no matter where the birth takes place. BUT, if the birth takes place off US soil then a person can be president only if BOTH his parents were US citizens at the time of his birth; as was the case with John McCain who was born in Panama.

Just in case you're wondering, I believe Obama is constitutionally qualified to be president.
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So we've seen the birth cert, news paper clippings and singed stuff from witnesess..
there's notheing else to worry about this guy other than where he was born? I think there's plenty of other stuff to complain about when it comes to the current CIC.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This won't silence the birthers. They're too emotionally invested in it at this point. Just like folks with Bush Derangement Syndrome who believe he stole the election, facts hold little sway over their belief system.

Or the "truthers".

The question still lingers as to WHY it took so long to release it.
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Union_man
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Buellkowski
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"His still refuted quirks he still repeats,
New-raised objections with new quibbles meets;
Till sinking in the quicksand he defends,
He dies disputing, and the contest ends."

-William Cowper
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My understand is that it is the state of Hawaii that wouldn't release it. They only issue the short form certificate to people who request one. They made an exception in this case at the request of the President. I could be mistaken.
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Xbrad9r
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Barry Soetero is who we should be talking about? Who is this Obama fellow anyway?
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Stalker
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I still don't believe he was born.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I could care less about the birth certificate . . .

I wonder why he and a staff numbering in the hundreds have fought like a caged animal to keep from releasing something that in about any state other than Hawaii anyone can walk in an look at. I carry a card size copy with me.

It's just odd.

He's been the least transparent and most deceptive President in my lifetime.

But . . . number me among those who thinks he's qualified in terms of the technical qualifications . . . but I'm more concerned with what he's about, having now doubled the number of places Bush had us fighting, to do to the dollar . .

The bright side is . . my Silver positions are kicking ass and it's NO PROBLEM finding foreign investors at the moment.

Go Big O . . Go!
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Madduck
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think it was Glenn Beck who said it best.

"It's not what state he was born in but what planet is he from."

he is not one of us and "They" are out there.
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Union_man
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As the Frog man suggests, this is a pretty lame fake.

Kind of feel sorry for the Kool Aid squad that went for it, really.

For the retarded, here is what a 1961 Hawaiian Birth Certificate looks like.

Lets see if you can spot the differences.


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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

um, not a document specialist, but I do know photography analysis... and that thing looks doctored. Blow up the address line for the hospital, notice how the water mark is conveniently not consistent for that entry.
Frankly I don't give a ratz aszz where he was born, he is a Marxist on the path that Lenin was on in 21; that is enough for me to not care for the man, policies, administration.
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hussein's isn't notarized.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

americanmade - whoa, good call, didnt notice that before
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