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Littlebuggles
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2011 - 03:12 am: | 
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I think there was a valid point to the original story. It made it clear that over use of, or over reliance on the rear brake as your do all be all... will not save your bacon in all situations.
I like what Fast1075 said "The whole point of this thread is to learn to USE the brakes"
Use both brakes, really practice it. Learn to modulate them properly and even if you can't get stopped you'll be a lot better off. That's the reason I got through with a couple broken ribs, instead of a broken neck... the hood of a 92 Taurus is no place to be, even if its only briefly, before the ground, sky, ground, sky panorama begins. I used my brakes as I'd been teaching my students to do, and had had a lot of practice that year. I knew right where my "maximum braking" (as the MSF teaches it) limit was, because as soon as I choose to exceed it I locked up. Learn that, your life may depend on it.
It's too bad the thread is deteriorating into a "my way is better than yours" conversation. I am sorry I helped to derail it that way. I enjoyed reading the original post. |
Fresnobuell
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2011 - 03:31 am: |
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It's too bad the thread is deteriorating into a "my way is better than yours" conversation. I am sorry I helped to derail it that way. I enjoyed reading the original post."
True that. Unfortunately, usually these braking thread typically end like this. everyone stay safe not matter what their braking preference may be!} |
Littlebuggles
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2011 - 05:10 am: |
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Good thing we weren't talking about counter steering. I think it's been years since we had a long, knockdown-drag-out thread about that. I think one person usually gets banned during those. We've got Obama's birth certificate for that now. |
Ezblast
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2011 - 06:51 pm: |
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I love a good counter steering argument! That last big blow out was awesome - I think Blake had a headache for months after that puppy - lol - but I learned a lot of cool stuff too! & I kept my mouth shut!
EZ |
Etennuly
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2011 - 11:08 am: |
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If you want see how your Buell can stop fast try this. I did it several times yesterday breaking in a new rotor and pads. Run it up to 60 mph, brake hard with the front, not stoppie hard, just hard smooth and steady. As the bike gets down to 40 mph apply rear brake moderately. You will feel the back of the bike pull down and feel the stopping force increase by about 30 to 40%.
Absolutely means shorter stops. Isn't that what hard braking is about? |
Fresnobuell
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2011 - 01:40 pm: |
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As the bike gets down to 40 mph apply rear brake moderately. You will feel the back of the bike pull down and feel the stopping force increase by about 30 to 40%.
Doesn't the rear tire come up towards the end of the stop? I thought the standard rear brake usage is to apply less as the bike slows and weight transfers to the front end. |
Etennuly
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2011 - 05:22 pm: |
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When you apply the front hard you get it to load the forks, when the rear brake comes in it brings the stopping power on significantly and the rear of the bike pulls down.
Get on a clean empty straight road, make sure no one is behind you then give it a try. Be smooth and hard and steady on the front first, as it settles into "hard stop" mode = stabilizes at the most fork compression and weigh shift, then ease in firmly and steady on the rear brake, it will bring the rear down and stop noticeably quicker.
The key to stopping quickly is doing so efficiently. To be efficient you need to apply pressure smoothly and stay steady with it. Slamming the brakes on and jerking the lever or pedal will get different results I'm sure. If you are doing a stoppie or skidding the tires you have gone beyond efficient. |
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