| Author | Message | ||
     Johnnymceldoo |
People in the uk pay more than double what we do for a gallon of gas. They also drive smaller more fuel efficient cars. So what if we inflate our cost on gasoline? Auto makers in turn make smaller more fuell efficient cars so we all keep driving to work. We also will buy less oil from other countries and emit less pollutants. Who's with me? | ||
| Cityxslicker |
step a way from the koolaide, ride your bike to work, and leave detroit to fester on their own. | ||
| Sayitaintso |
If you want to take that type of an approach, why not just outlaw the internal combustion engine? | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
There have to be a couple people here that like this approach. | ||
| Rotzaruck |
You know, people are practically giving away horses that they can't afford to feed. Of course you couldn't afford to buy corn for your horse because of the inflated price of corn to make inflated priced gasoline. | ||
| Hughlysses |
Well, I've figured out how to fix our tax system: pass a federal law that requires each member of Congress to PERSONALLY do their OWN taxes with no outside help. One year later, I'm confident we'd see a MAJOR simplification of the tax code.  | ||
| Sayitaintso |
Comparing transportation in Europe to the US is problematic for many reasons. Lifestyles, public transportation and distance being just a few of the big ones. As for using the raising of fuel cost to force more fuel efficient vehicles.... why not just mandate more efficient vehicles w/o the fuel cost increase? Who would get the additional money? and so on. | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
umm yea I don't like this at all. It is bad enough in 3 months time it went from costing $7 to fill my bike up to about $11. If I owned a car (long story as to why I don't right now) I would not want it to be some little crappy car like you want. When I want to be fuel efficient I have something for that in the way of my bike. If you want to buy little cars then go buy one no one is stopping you. there are plenty of them on the market. To top it off all of them except maybe the cooper to me look completely gay. Ok my rant is over. | ||
| Crackhead |
+1 to Hughlysses "Here is your pencil, scrap paper and all necessary forms. Have fun" | ||
| Court |
That "make'em do their own taxes" idea has been floated around for years . . still waiting for it to get some traction. We have an odd situation here in NYC.
I'm a bit of an anomaly as I drive anywhere from 100 to 200 miles a day (which I pretty much love because of the interesting places I see) but I buy over $150 of fuel a week at the nearly $4.00 current prices and pay about $28 a day in tolls. Luckily I don't pay the $500 a month my wife does for parking . . but I to pay $0.50 per 10 minutes at meters here in Manhattan so figure about $36 a day. I'm just starting to toy with doing something about it. But I'm fairly confident we'll be seeing $6.00 gas prices in the not too distant future so I suspect that even folks lacking very sophisticated public transportation will be seeking solutions as well. The obvious solution is simply to allow, with all due oversight and necessary regulations, American companies to do what they do best . . . drill and produce oil. By the time my Granddaughter hits high school oil will be a story like the spark advance on a Ford . . . but for now it's our primary source of transportation energy and we've got some really counterproductive policies. | ||
| Hootowl |
Making them do their own taxes would only work if they were also required to be audited every year. | ||
| Bob_thompson |
T. Boone Pickens and others have the answer I believe. Natural gas. We have more supplies under our country then all the fields in the rest of the world and are currently delivering it. Very little changes need to be made to our antiquated internal combustion engines to use it and way less pollutants. Octane is more then adequate. We have filling stations now that already have NG to their front doors and use it for heating. Very little changes have to be made to pumps and with "smart" government support we could change over in a short time. Major manufacturers will not have to change much to accommodate NG production and utilize current styles of vehicles. Its in keeping with a good idea of green energy AND IT WILL GET US OFF foreign oil dependence and probably change the balance of trade to coming into our country instead of going out. And what it could mean in jobs and other aspects of the change over would surely decrease of national debt and increase revenues. It also leaves oil for more production in all the side industries the we currently use and need such as plastics. Also it could lead into a Hydrogen cell car if we could ever produce enough to make it practical. Sadly to say there are not many folks on this bandwagon. There may be some aspects I am unaware of but why are we not at least researching this strongly and RIGHT NOW? Very few NG vehicles are in use but they have proven highly viable. | ||
| Buellkowski |
The obvious solution is simply to allow, with all due oversight and necessary regulations, American companies to do what they do best . . . drill and produce oil. Which then is offered for sale to global consumers at global market prices? How much cost savings will more drilling truly bring if American consumers must still compete with Chinese (subsidized) consumers for the same oil? Truckers already pay through the nose for diesel. Double the price of fuel artificially and just about everything we buy in our stores becomes a whole lot more expensive, artificially. | ||
| Hughlysses |
That "make'em do their own taxes" idea has been floated around for years . . still waiting for it to get some traction. Really? So much for my brilliant original idea I guess.  I'm sure the main problem is that it'd be even harder to convince Congress to pass that law than it would be to get them to come up with reasonable tax laws in the first place. | ||
| Xl1200r |
Who's with me? You'd have to raise fuel prices dramatically in order to have it have an impact on the buying practices for new cars. It would need to raise someone's fuel cost by enough to justify that buying a new car is less expensive than just keeping the one they have. Except now gas prices are so high that the car they already have has dropped like a rock in value, increasing the price of entry in a new, fuel effecient vehicle. You've isolated 2 moving parts out of a system with hundreds. | ||
| Court |
Fun Essay Snippet . .
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| Glitch |
Who's with me? Al Gore | ||
| Sifo |
Wind power can be great! We need more Robby Naish! | ||
| Sayitaintso |
T. Boone Pickens and others have the answer I believe. Natural gas. Read up on "fracking" and what it may or may not be doing to drinking water....to get at that natural gas. It may (or may not) change your mind. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Dumbest idea ever. Next. | ||
| Cowboy |
Att. Johnny--- Just tell me what you own that was not delivered in a TRUCK. | ||
| Hootowl |
Correct me if I'm wrong (and I know you will  ) but aren't these frac jobs taking place FAR below the water table? The oil/gas and water are separated by impermeable rock. The fracturing isn't touching that layer, it is directed horizontally (I've been in Schlumberger's campus in Sugarland TX, and seen the pictures...neat technology) through the rock, not vertically. Is there evidence that hydraulic fracturing, which has been going on for years, is polluting ground water, or is it just fear mongering by the anti oil lobby? | ||
| Kyrocket |
Who says that small cars are ugly, why I just got this e-mail from my mom and would rock most of these cars. The Smart Car What we will be forced to drive quite soon.  But look at all of the 'great new choices' We will have evolving from 'The SMART Car'.... The Smorvette!  The Smaudi A3 AWD!  The Smamborghini!  The Smorsche!  The Smerrari!  And last, but not least, The Smustang  | ||
| Sayitaintso |
From what I understand you are right....except for the waste water that comes to the surface. It may just be in PA, but from what I understand that water is being run though sewage treatment plants that dont really have the ability to clean the contaminated waste water. Trust me, I'm no expert in the area, this is just what I've picked up reading things here and there....for all i know it could be nimby's flooding the web/news. | ||
| Cowboy |
MECO Units are cheaper than drilling for potable water. | ||
| Gentleman_jon |
I'm behind Johnny three legs and a cane. I really am ashamed of my self, driving a V8 Sport Ute and a litre bike that only gets about 30mph. I'm selling both of them, and getting a Chinese VW with the MONEY I WILL SAVE ON GAS THE FIRST YEAR.  This puppy only cost $600 bucks and gets 258 mph. Might get two. It's just too bad that we had to wait for Obama to make gasoline expensive enough for me to finally catch wise. http://www.caradvice.com.au/25172/volkswagen-introduces-worlds-most-economical-car/ | ||
| Cityxslicker |
those smooshed cars remind me of the imicro machines from the 80's whattabout the 'supersecret tesla engine' that is making the rounds on the internet?! It must work, look at all the people down loading the plans..... | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
Like said already, the cost to buy a new vehicle is o much more than the inflated gas cost (unless youre doing an incredible amount of driving, like Courts situation etc) The last job I had was in sales, it required me to drive all of the time. Some weeks I did 1500 miles in 5 days. Some weeks was under 1000 for the week. Still, the 3-4k it'd cost me to get a good, reliable used car for cheap (civic, corolla etc) wasnt worth the cost over paying for the extra gas. And raising gas prices to get this to happen? Seriously, such a dumb idea, just hurts everyone more, draining more money out of pockets until they can afford to purchase the small car. But then they cant cause they are always paying so much in gas for what they have now. Terrible idea. If you really want to help curb the oil dependence then just do little things each day/week to save gas. Sure, its a drop of water in an ocean, but its better than nothing -ride your motorcycle when you can -dont drive like a dumb-ass -tires properly inflated -dont have a bunch of junk in your car weighing it down etc etc Doesnt change the situation, but thats just a little less used/needed than before | ||
| Glitch |
I'll tell y'all what. If you're like Johnny, I'll make it simple for ya. Whatever the price of gas at your next visit. Double it, send me half, you'll get the expensive gas, and I'll get some money for my experiments. Win win! | ||
| Strokizator |
How much would gas have to cost before idiots thought it was too expensive and stayed home, off the highway and hence OUT OF MY WAY!?! That's a price point I could live with. |
