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Ourdee
| | Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2011 - 10:04 pm: | 
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Itchy? Ok, I'll shut-up.
Proper push on the left grip could have saved it. Just have to overcome the fear. |
Whatever
| | Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2011 - 10:26 pm: |
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Yeah... just shutup... |
1125rcya
| | Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2011 - 10:53 pm: |
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I noticed the same thing Ourdee!
The guy just needs to watch Tron! |
Xbrad9r
| | Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2011 - 11:07 pm: |
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what is the thing that slides across the asphalt in front of his helmet near the 1:15 point in the first vid? I can't figure it out. |
Preybird1
| | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2011 - 02:30 am: |
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It is the little tiny bubble mirror he has stuck to the stock lolly pop mirrors. |
Macbuell
| | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2011 - 11:52 am: |
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Perfect example of why everyone should wear a full face helmet in that video. |
Teeps
| | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2011 - 12:06 pm: |
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Slaughter Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2011
Crashes are virtually guaranteed when people will hot-dog it for the camera.
Ironically, on the Rock Store Photo web site. They even say that going slower through the corner gives a better shot.
From Rock Store Photo.com
What To Do?
Riders and drivers in search of an epic image should also keep in mind that speed does not lead to better pictures. In fact, just the opposite is the case. The faster you are going, and the closer to your limits you find yourself, smoothness will suffer. Since we use very slow shutter speeds, any mid apex correction or jerkiness will result in a blurred image. Stay smooth, be safe, and let’s get you a poster class image.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/capfacsurf/5590427871 /in/set-72157626431411400 |
Azxb9r
| | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2011 - 03:26 pm: |
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I would not go so far as to say that ABS is a bad idea for a beginner (I rather like ABS myself), but Pkforbes has a valid point about it creating a potential problem from a training standpoint. In an emergency situation you do what you have practiced, or what is habit. If you learn to ride with ABS and get into the habit of just mashing the brakes and letting the electronics bail you out, you never learn how to properly modulate the brakes. As long as the ABS is working this is not a problem, but what happens if the ABS fails or the person rides a bike that is not equipped with ABS? ABS can also lead to a false sense of security.
I do not think that ABS would have helped the guy in the video clip. The clip does bring up a number of interesting questions though regarding the amount of rider distraction due to the presence of cameras and LEOs. |
Whistler
| | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2011 - 03:40 pm: |
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I have gotten into the habit of wearing all my gear but the armored pants, just jeans. That stops today. |
Bikertrash05
| | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2011 - 03:53 pm: |
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Too much front break, no counter-steering, sitting straight up in the saddle, and jeans. I'd say this guy needs a few riding lessons. |
Stirz007
| | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2011 - 04:01 pm: |
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I think he just got that lesson..... |
Ourdee
| | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2011 - 05:58 pm: |
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Stirz beat me to it. |
Fresnobuell
| | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2011 - 06:42 pm: |
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How about a MSF course? The things one learns in a few hours during a MSF course would have prevented that crash. Operator error big time. It didn't even seem like the speed or lean angle was that great. |
Paint_shaker
| | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2011 - 07:21 pm: |
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"The clip does bring up a number of interesting questions though regarding the amount of rider distraction due to the presence of cameras and LEOs."
If you ain't breaking the law why would a police car be distracting? |
Sifo
| | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2011 - 07:48 pm: |
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If you learn to ride with ABS and get into the habit of just mashing the brakes and letting the electronics bail you out, you never learn how to properly modulate the brakes.
True enough. I would hope that most people would actually be interested in learning good skills though. I am constantly surprised by people that have no interest in improving all areas of their lives though.
I think the same argument can be made for traction control that seems to be gaining acceptance in the sport bike world.
I really don't know how deep of a hole ABS can get you out of. I did demo a Sprint GT with ABS last fall right after it rained. The thought did cross my mind of trying the ABS in a wet parking lot, but honestly just couldn't bring myself to purposely lock the front wheel of a $13K bike that wasn't even mine. It might be nice to have in a panic situation though.
If you ain't breaking the law why would a police car be distracting?
Good question. I see people all the time that see a cop and hit the brakes even though they are already well under the speed limit. I think some people just automatically feel guilty. |
Stirz007
| | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2011 - 07:51 pm: |
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Paint - I think we've both observed that a lot of folks will act guilty around LEO's even if they haven't done anything wrong. (Not speculating on whether that affected the outcome of our guy.) There's always more than a few drivers/riders that will slow from above 70 to below 60 when they see a LEO on the side of the road - even when posted limit is 65. I didn't take Azx's comment as a jab at LEO's, more of a legit question - I guess you'd have to know what was going through the guy's head just before face plant (other than "Oh Sheet").
Sifo +1
(Message edited by Stirz007 on April 11, 2011) |
Azxb9r
| | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2011 - 08:31 pm: |
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If you ain't breaking the law why would a police car be distracting?
Guilty conscience
As Sifo and Stirz mentioned, a lot of people suddenly change what they are doing when they see an LEO...I generally look at the speedo when I see one.
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Blake
| | Posted on Monday, April 11, 2011 - 11:36 pm: |
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Ambulance for that? Insurance pays all I guess.  |
Glitch
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2011 - 06:14 am: |
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My insurance will not pay any hospital bills if I decided not to take the ambulance to the hospital and get checked out.
The only reason I know this is I was making sure I had health attached to the motor insurance.
It wasn't then, it is now. |
