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Reindog
| | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2011 - 01:11 pm: | 
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Is there a Classics Comics version of AS? Oops, probably showing my YOE (Years On Earth) as Classics Comics probably no longer exists. |
Glitch
| | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2011 - 01:49 pm: |
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I don't think that person exists.
Not even my wife.
If you believe wholeheartedly and completely in any ideology (other than your own) you are accompanied by sheepeople
"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure." - Senator Barack Obama- 2006 |
Doerman
| | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2011 - 10:52 pm: |
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Saw the movie this afternoon.
True to the intent of the book.
Well scripted, great camera work and reasonable acting.
I think the movie is well done and the message is, of course, very timely. |
Imonabuss
| | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2011 - 11:18 pm: |
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Excellent. Just saw it and loved it. Well done. Will be killed by liberal media with buckets of derision. That's my bet. |
Indy_bueller
| | Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2011 - 06:54 pm: |
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Either that or they will try to kill it by smearing Ayn Rand. |
Sifo
| | Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2011 - 08:18 pm: |
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I just saw it and found it to be quite a good flick. I don't think progressives will appreciate the message though. That might explain this...
At least the viewing public seem to like it. One more reason to not pay much attention to the critics.
Rocco, I think I must have missed the pro-abortion message. Maybe it comes across better in the book.
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Reindog
| | Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 02:08 am: |
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Laurie and I just saw AS tonight and we both thought it was pretty decent. It was almost a full house and the audience applauded at the end as most saw the parallel between our current reckless and increasingly tyrannical government with the one depicted in the film. I had a Chris Matthews moment in my leg.
The characters are a bit two-dimensional as they were in the book but that is OK. I encourage everyone to vote with their dollars to go see this movie, which will send a message for the filmmakers to complete the trilogy.
"Our work or your guns. You are free to choose either but you can't choose both."
That is precisely what is happening in our society today, one job at a time. It is neither possible nor desirable to legislate fairness. Attempting to do so is inherently prejudicial and concentrates power in the arbiters of "fairness". How Soviet, just like the "Anti Dog Eat Dog Bill" in the movie.
Rocco, just go see the damn film and report back to us. I suspect you'll hate it but you will better understand why Conservatism is not going to disappear without a blood fight.
(Message edited by reindog on April 24, 2011) |
Court
| | Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 06:53 am: |
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We "voted" last night . . I was reading the thread, mentioned it to Vickie (who'd read the book) and, when I saw the movie was starting in about 45 minutes . . off we went to the movies for the first time in years.
The scariest part to me was the ridiculous ideas being foisted on hard working folks and the amazing similarity to the current administration.
The whole idea that someone who works hard, creates job, creates value and brings vision . . . should have to "settle up" with the lazy folks so that everyone has equal shares.
This is reminiscent of those schools that don't allow score to be kept in sports (they also omit the word competition) events.
When the lazy begin to try to assert control and set out to take what folks have worked for I suspect their will be unintended consequences. I know my wife has seen 2 of the 3 young billionaires she worked with on Wall Street simply cash it all in . . and walk away.
I just got done paying 55% of my last year's income in taxes (that doesn't include the $28 a day in tolls, gas taxes or any of those "phantom" taxes) and I have to confess I'm a heck of a lot less interested in working than I was even 5 years ago.
It used to be that what I did created LOTS of jobs, bought lots of trucks and allowed me to make lots of difference in various charitable causes. Now . . more than half of what I do goes simply to support some of the ridiculous stuff we hear about . . bridges to nowhere, DVD's for prisoners and an Attorney General who "adjusts" laws to suit his agenda.
Scary stuff. |
Sifo
| | Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 09:12 am: |
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Rocco, just go see the damn film and report back to us. I suspect you'll hate it but you will better understand why Conservatism is not going to disappear without a blood fight.
I was thinking about this when I woke this morning. I realized that the movie worked for me because of the emotional response it evoked. It did that well. All good movies do. It evoked a sense of anger that these hard working people were being wronged in that way. I honestly don't know that someone like Rocco would get that same emotional response. I don't think he would see any wrong being done, so would likely not get that emotional response that makes the movie good. |
Johnnymceldoo
| | Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 10:19 am: |
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Rocco would most likely go to see it but walk out mid movie and vow never to watch. He would then wait for it on netflix and start watching again but then stop and vow not to watch it. |
Kenm123t
| | Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 12:00 pm: |
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I m betting he pulls an Elvis and shoots his TV |
Reindog
| | Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 01:07 pm: |
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A few years back, folks of the misguided Liberal persuasion (sorry, I refuse to call them Progressives which they T'aint) were flocking to see "An Inconvenient Truth". They were mesmerized by Al Gore's charlatanism and implored everyone to go see it. Their message was, "If only you hear the Professor, then your eyes will open and you will march with us into the Brave New World of Saving the World". Unlike Rocco, I saw that film but walked away with the opposite feeling.
So it probably goes with Atlas Shrugged to those who haven't yet realized that Conservatism is the ONLY path to freedom and the restoration of the absolute Greatness that is America. Lefticles won't "get" it but there are a mass of free minded people who will start to stir.
AS is an allegory about what happens when the Producers in our society go on strike in protest to a growing despotism. The Looters and Moochers cause jobs to dribble away one by one in the spirit of "fairness" until nothing is left. As it is in America today with the Nothingness in the White House whose sole mission is to destroy American Exceptionalism. But matters it does not (said in my best Yoda voice). The Left can screech all they want until the blood runs out of their brains. It won't change a thing. The growing tyranny of our out of control, barely Constitutional Federal government, is killing the entrepreneurial spirit. One "fair" law at a time. |
Sifo
| | Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 01:12 pm: |
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Atlas Shrugged is supposed to be fiction.
An Inconvenient Truth is supposed to be real.
Which is closer to reality?  |
Reindog
| | Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 02:01 pm: |
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A few tidbits about the cast of Atlas Shrugged.
Graham Beckel plays the role of Ellis Wyatt and is the brother of Bob Beckel, a spokesman for the Democratic Party. They are entertaining to watch together on Hannity. Although Bob is an apologist to his masters, he is a pretty good guy. Graham is a Conservative and gets good natured jabs in. Good stuff. You might remember him as Dick Stensland from LA Confidential which is a great movie. Check it out if you've never seen it.
Grant Bowler plays Henry Reardon. His ability to project an ironic look back to the Looters and Moochers is entertaining. Bowler has been all over TV including Lost, True Blood, Ugly Betty, and The Cape. His future looks bright.
Patrick Tischler plays Paul Larkin, a backstabber of Hank Reardon. I kept staring at him knowing that I had seen him somewhere. He played Phil from the Dharma Initiative on Lost!
Edi Gathegi played Laurent in Twilight.
I find Taylor Schilling hot and look forward to seeing more of her work. Until AS, her filmography is pretty sparse. |
Cityxslicker
| | Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 02:03 pm: |
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I have long had the notion that I will never sit for a movie that was critically acclaimed
and if was 'based' on a book, I would always read the book instead.
Last new years( 2009/10), I put three boxes of shells through my old tv. It was an Office space afternoon, it was liberating, I dont miss it. |
Reindog
| | Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 02:08 pm: |
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In the Age of the Boot Licking Media, Rotten Tomatoes does not disappoint.
Atlas Shrugged:
Tomatometer (critics): 6%
Audience: 85% Liked it.
Folks, go vote with your dollars while it is still in the theaters. It is not being marketed and it is derided by the critics, so it won't be around long. It has an important message and Parts 2 and 3 need to be told.
Joe Bob Reindog sez "Check it out!" |
Sifo
| | Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 10:44 am: |
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So I was wondering how much the story has been tailored to fit current circumstances in our country. The movie was clearly today's reality being fictionalized. Just as a for instance I was wondering if the Oil guy Ellis Wyatt was based in Colorado in the book. If someone who's read the book could be so kind as to just give a quick answer on that one question...
Thanks! |
Court
| | Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 11:42 am: |
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>>>>So I was wondering how much the story has been tailored to fit current circumstances in our country.
CAVEAT - I HAVE NOT READ THE BOOK.
COMMENT: My wife has, 3X, and told me . . after the movie . . that it was an accurate representation of the book.
FACT: The book was released in 1957.
DIRECTIONS: Draw your own conclusions . . . or not.
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Sifo
| | Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 11:55 am: |
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Thanks Court, but you could do what someone might consider an accurate representation of that theme based in a galaxy far, far away. Basically I was wondering if details like the geography had been tailored to fit the scene in the US today. I would just find it spooky if the book written in '57 could be that true to today's geo-political realities. |
Boltrider
| | Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 12:40 pm: |
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Wyatt is based in Colorado in the book. |
Sifo
| | Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 12:46 pm: |
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Thanks Boltrider. I do find that interesting. |
Imonabuss
| | Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 01:54 pm: |
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I loved the movie, and recommend going to see it. I'll bet motorcyclists would vote a lot closer to the 85% than the 6%. It's clear why the media who are in love with our current big government situation hate it. It is so real feeling it made the hair stand up on my neck. The political double speak and mudslinging is exactly what today is passed off as journalism. |
Court
| | Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 02:38 pm: |
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Interesting to listen, at 2:30pm today, about the warnings coming out about China overtaking the USA economy within. The next 5 years.
Great time to gave a neighborhood organizer at the helm. |
Sifo
| | Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 02:42 pm: |
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Interesting to listen, at 2:30pm today, about the warnings coming out about China overtaking the USA economy within. The next 5 years.
Hearing Herman Cain discuss this among other things right now. I've never heard him speak before, but they guy makes sense. I hope the media spends some time talking about him instead of Trump. There might just be hope for 2012. |
Glitch
| | Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 04:17 pm: |
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I know Herman Cain, we worked for the Fair Tax events, and then later the Tea Party.
If he runs, it'll be the second time I've voted for someone.
I'm wondering what people think about the movie that haven't read the book vs those that have. |
Sifo
| | Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 05:37 pm: |
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I liked the movie enough to buy the book. Ordered it today in a set with The Fountainhead. At least I can read the book before parts 2 & 3.
Good to hear that about Herman Cain. It's easy to stand in front of a camera spouting about what you would do different. Hearing it from someone who knows some of history is better. |
Reindog
| | Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 07:14 pm: |
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Atlas Shrugged at amazon.com. Not bad for a book first published in 1957 and a movie almost universally panned by critics.
Amazon Bestsellers Rank: #21 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)
#2 in Books > Literature & Fiction > Classics
#2 in Books > Literature & Fiction > Genre Fiction > Political
#14 in Books > Literature & Fiction > Literary
* Average Customer Review: 4.0 out of 5 stars See all reviews (2,298 customer reviews)
2,298 Reviews
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1 star:
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Court
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 06:48 am: |
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Interesting . . . I read some reviews, on somewhat left leaning websites, that reported how poorly Atlas Shrugged was doing.
Then I read the sales figures, currently having a resurgence, for the book.
Then I saw this.
quote:The power of Ayn Rand devotees has impressed some Hollywood distribution executives, who took note of the hefty $5,640 per-theater average scored by “Atlas Shrugged: Part 1” during its opening weekend.
“Shocking,” one executive said about the healthy business the low-budget film has been doing, considering its “awful” marketing plan.
Awful or not, business has been brisk enough for producers Harmon Kaslow and John Aglialoro to expand from 299 theaters to 425 this weekend and to 1,000 by the end of the month. They don’t have enough film prints to fill all the orders.
SOURCE: http://www.suntimes.com/4935704-417/box-office-pow er-of-ayn-rands-atlas-shrugged-baffles-insiders.ht ml
I have no clue as to which is accurate but it certainly looks like the left wing media is simply lying. Could that be?
I was going to call my union business agent . . . but he still has 4 more years to serve and only gets one call a week.
Funny stuff. |
Glitch
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 07:33 am: |
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The evil Tea Party and Ayn Rand.
You can't make this stuff up...no wait, they just did.
“So many people see the parallels with actually what’s going on, with the government taking over the banks, with the government kind of taking over the automobile industry, a president who fires the CEO of a major American corporation. These are the kind of things that come out of ‘Atlas Shrugged.’ “
http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/what-caused-atlas-s hrugged-sales-to-soar/
I ran across this while trying to find the sales chart for the life time of the book. |
Blake
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2011 - 12:21 pm: |
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Saw it along with four friends last night in Tyler, Texas. Good flick. Book is better. |
Jb2
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2011 - 02:43 pm: |
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Sifo - I like the graphic showing the reviews. Kind of reminds me of two bottom stories last week on Drudge Report. The first headline read "50% of Americans Pay No Federal Taxes" the headline below it read "43% of Americans Think Their Tax Rates Are About Right"
Coincidence? |
Cityxslicker
| | Posted on Sunday, May 01, 2011 - 09:57 pm: |
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dont follow that movie with Fight Club. |
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