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Maxbuell
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 07:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I searched the knowledge vault, didn't really get what I was looking for. Need a new battery. Think i need a gel and not a acid lead battery. Any body know a good place to score 1. Are HD batteries gel ?
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 08:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dont know if they are gel or not, but they are great batteries.
Never had an issue with one, they last a good long time
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They are "absorbed glass mat" batteries.
All the Buells I've seen have the battery mounted in a semi reclining position so a standard lead-acid battery will not work as part of the electrolite will be vented out, exposing the plates.
AGM batteries are common these days.
At the least, use a sealed battery.
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 09:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Odyssey
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Fahren
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Odyssey, Yuasa, genuine HD (spit). Yes on the AGM type, not lead acid.
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Rwven
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Big Crank

http://www.batterymart.com/c-big-crank-batteries.h tml

Same battery as the HD (spit) without the HD (spit)...
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Xbimmer
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Deka ETX AGM's, made in USA and available at auto parts places.
http://www.dekabatteries.com/default.aspx?pageid=5 10
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Rwven
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The HD battery, Deka and Big Crank are all made by East Penn Manufacturing Co., Inc.
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Skntpig
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's a tip too. Put it on a slow charge before installing. Most places say it is charged and just put it in and go.

You will get better life if it is really fully charged before you crank it the first time.
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've used Oddysey batteries in the past, got good results- but they're expensive and pretty dang heavy.

In my latest MCN and, I believe also in either Sport Rider or Motorcyclist they have reviewed a new company called Shorai- in a nutshell, these new Shorai LFX motorcycle batteries sound like the shiznit!

MCN shows a pic of both a stock Goldwing battery and the intended Shorai replacement- the Shorai is about 1/3 smaller, and weighs 2# versus the stocker's 15#!!!

I'll be looking into these when the time comes...

www.shoraibattery.com
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't buy a Shorai yet. They are about to come out with a better one (improved charging control and protection).
There's a thread over on BBD about a gent who was stranded down in Mexico due to a failure of one of these batteries.
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dan- good cautionary note, but my MCN is the April 2011 edition- the review mentions "...they carry a 2 year warranty, made from Japanese components, assembled in China with final inspection, testing and charging in California before distribution."

Given the many advantages they purport to have, I'm still quite interested...
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Spatten1
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 02:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There are only two or three manufacturers and many, many brand names. I just picked one up on EBAY for $38 shipped.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Squids, if you want a Lithium based battery, get it from Erik Buell Racing, it won't explode on you in the middle of nowhere. The current Shorai is inferior junk, hence its cheap price.
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Heck, I'd buy everything for my bikes from Erik Buell Racing if I could...

Sounds like you're a little more up on this stuff than most, Frogs- do tell.
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've got Interstate batteries in both XB's. Couldn't be happier and at a great price from a local car dealer...thinking they were around $75.00(couple years ago)
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My next battery will be an Erik Buell Racing - good price for a mega durable piece and weight savings.
EZ
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Fahren
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

EB's initials also stand for Energizer Bunny. Hmmmm.
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Breadman
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 11:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Will the Erik Buell Racing battery work on tubers? Specifically '99 X1? Can't see why they wouldn't.

Spencer
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 11:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A battery is a battery. Assuming it has enough power to start your bike, you pretty much are golden. It was designed to be the OEM battery in the high compression 1190cc Baracuda 2, so I don't think your X1 will be much of a threat : )
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cam timing can really affect how much torque is required to turn an engine over. Actual compression can be significantly reduced compared to theoretical when at low engine speeds like when starting.
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Speaking of compression......start an engine with a compression tester screwed into a spark plug hole and take a reading at 3,000 (no load) RPM's.
You'd be surprised!
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Steve_a
Posted on Monday, April 04, 2011 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lithium-ion batteries are the coming thing, and they're just about ready for prime time as the cost of cells and batteries has begun to fall. Their advantages should be very light weight, high-cranking power, and very long life if done right -- say 10 years. The Erik Buell Racing battery is excellent, and a number of the "dumb packs" (no battery management system or BMS)using A123 cells will work well for a season of racing, and maybe a couple of years of street riding. [If you just want a dumb pack, one of the Chinese vendors on eBay looks pretty good, and is of course cheap.] I'm working on a comparison of the best current options for CW; they are surprisingly varied, and some are much better than others. It should be on the newstand sometime this summer.

One more thought: lithium-ion dumb-packs won't survive in the market for very long. No OEM would ever use them, and they have potential issues even for aftermarket companies. When well-engineered lithium-ion batteries with full BMS protection become available for attractive price points, they'll rule.
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