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Glitch
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2011 - 08:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Parent company?
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Sparky
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2011 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

@ 1:19: He said the frame was based on the Harley Davidson VR1000 superbike considered to be one of the best handling bikes in the world... Wha? That thing never went fast enough to test its handling.
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Doerman
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2011 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No worries.. This all fits neatly in with the new fad here in this country (that I intensely dislike, by the way).

We're no longer Americans, we're Something-Americans.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2011 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm a motorcycle-riding-gun-toting-fix-it-myself-cause-I -aint-paying-no-one-else-to-do-it-for-me-American.

That thing looks like my Transformers toy collection I had when I was kid that got chewed up by a cow and crapped out in a farm field in Maryland. American or not, it sure is ugly. Love that they're making them here, though.
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Court
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2011 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you went to Deal's Gap . . . . Newcomb's Ranch. . . . The Rock Store, Alice's Restaurant or The Eagle's Nest and said the word "America Sportbike" . . . what do you think most folks would say?

How many do you think would blurt out "Fischer"?

Just curious.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2011 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Darryl,

I thought that whole spiel about the frame was really goofy. True or not, trying to tag onto the likes of Harley in order to promote a sport bike is just plain bizarre.

Maybe he can find a part to have made by the same company that manufactured a part for and F22 and advertise that too.

I actually think the bike is pretty cool. I'd redesign the headlight layout and ditch the orange, but it seems okay for the market it is targeting. Not my preference at all, but as good or better than others I've seen.



Court,

Why of course everyone would answer "XR1200", what other American sport bike is there?
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Gregtonn
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2011 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Carburetors! Blake like!"

I like them too, until I start doing rides with some serious altitude changes (I've done a lot of them),
then I'd rather have a good injection system.

G
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Doerman
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2011 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

American Sport Bike?

Well,Joanne and Al, of course!
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Datsaxman
Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 01:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lessee...Hyosung at Suzuki SV price??

How is this "better" than the Suzuki? Because you could tell your friends it's American Made(R)??

Pretty sure the Suzuki motor is put together better...
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Trojan
Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 06:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lessee...Hyosung at Suzuki SV price??

How is this "better" than the Suzuki? Because you could tell your friends it's American Made(R)??

Pretty sure the Suzuki motor is put together better...


The name on the motor doesn't tell the complete story any longer I'm afraid, so you sometime snever know who is responsible for making exactly what?

Hyosung actually assemble ALL Suzuki SV650 engines under contract with Suzuki, so it is little wonder that their engine bears a remarkable resemblance to teh old SV650 motor : ) Build quality of the Hyosung engines is very good, it is just let down by their chassis components unfortunately, so putting one in a decent frame as in the Fischer is a great idea : ) I'd have one if we could get them over here.

If I remember rightly wasn't the MRX supposed to be supercharegd originally (or was that Roehr?)
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 09:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Steven,

If the frame and the overall bike are designed and built in America, what is your problem with calling it an American bike? I'm fine with capitalist South Korea. As long as it's not composed of major parts from communist nations, it's cool by me.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>> I like them too, until I start doing rides with some serious altitude changes (I've done a lot of them),
then I'd rather have a good injection system.

A good CV carb compensates pretty well. The Keihin on my Cyclone hasn't given me any trouble. Great carburetor.
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would like to ride one of these just to see if it is at all worth the hype. if it really is a good handling bike then it is good in my book.
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Barker
Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wish the Fisher team the best.

I just don't see any traction.

I think its a cool, except the tail section looks out of proportion with the rest of the bike.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I remember rightly wasn't the MRX supposed to be supercharegd originally (or was that Roehr?)

Roehr.

A good CV carb compensates pretty well. The Keihin on my Cyclone hasn't given me any trouble. Great carburetor.

They are pretty good, I just don't have any experience with one over big altitude changes - on a big trip out west you need to be able to work from below sea-level to over 12,000 feet. How are they in that kind of situation?
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake we agree on something!
'If the frame and the overall bike are designed and built in America, what is your problem with calling it an American bike? '

Exactly, the same thing can be said (and probably is) about the 1125 bikes and upcoming 1190 - everything designed here but the engine. Its still an American bike.

And yes, I agree that if you go ANYWHERE and ask about an American Sportbike that 'Buell' would be the answer, not fischer or roeher etc.
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P47b
Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm holding on to my money for a Erik Buell Racing.
I wish them luck. I even thought about one for awhile. Change my mind though.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have no problem calling Fisher an "American Bike".
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>> ...on a big trip out west you need to be able to work from below sea-level to over 12,000 feet. How are they in that kind of situation?

Worked fine for me traversing Trail Ridge Road in Rocky Mountain National Park.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, Blake - that's the road I had in mind when I asked.
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Datsaxman
Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 07:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Trojan,
Thanks for the Hyosung/Suzuki info...

Blake,
I have no problem calling the Fischer an American bike. If that is ALL it has to offer, that's not much by itself.

Chassis copied from EB via HD...engine made by Hyosung for Suzuki. Just bolted together here, wrapped in random bodywork. Sounds like Honda or Toyota cars assembled in the USA.

How is the fact that Fischer is assembled here adding to the quality of the machine? I don't see it.
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