| Author | Message | ||
     F22raptor |
My son's history teacher,who has been advocating killing Governor Scott Walker in his class-room since November.....Was fired today as they looked at his blog (threats and warnings) and also found a big-ass knife in his desk-drawer...I got enough to worry about in life,yea I guess I just need to grow-up already..My kids are the most important thing to me,and my 6'2" 210lb linebacker son was put in a position that he should not have been in...as he knew what was right and would not have hesitated to stop this "Teacher" from hurting somebody!Oh and I have been trying to get this resolved since last year..... School administrators,local newspapers ..Deaf ears...Belling said it was "not important enough" He and his call screener are idiots,and I did at one time think he made a difference,but I was wrong.If something had happened,what would the arrogant F@*K have to say! | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Scary. I'm sure the WEA will just make sure this teacher gets "reassigned". | ||
| Sifo |
WOW!!! Glad to hear this POS got fired. I wonder what he thought he was going to do with the knife. I don't think he had designs on protecting his classroom of students from the proverbial mad man with a gun. More likely his thoughts were using it on a student. It's hard to imagine that his attitude could go unnoticed, except for in an environment that is friendly to that sort of attitude. Sounds like he was feeling relatively free to share his thoughts. I would have concerns about the entire school district. | ||
| Reepicheep |
So if this was a tea party event, instead of a union event, how do you think the mainstream media would have covered it? F22, got any links to local media coverage of the story with all the detail you mentioned? | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
The really insidious part is that progressivism (secular humanism) has become and is very much a "religion". A teacher can't share their beliefs regarding Christianity, but a leftist wacko is free to proselytize daily converts to progressivism. It IS a religion with no god but the state. | ||
| F22raptor |
The teacher had been suspended before.His blog is priceless to read! | ||
| Sifo |
Please, post a link! | ||
| Crusty |
It IS a religion with no god but the state. I guess that's why most churches around this part of the country have liberal opinions. | ||
| Aesquire |
There's "liberal" and there's "progressive". Rush Limbaugh uses the term "liberal" to mean anyone he thinks is a shade left of his off center. ( I don't even think he's really a conservative, but that's another thing ) He does the term a disservice as do many. Liberal has become a curse word. Often "liberal" is used when "libertine" is correct. Western civilization as we know it, fairly free elections, more or less equal rights no matter the race and gender, freedom of speech, etc. is a "liberal" society. ( yes, yes, we are imperfect at all those ideals, some places worse than others, but "western liberal civilization" is a state of ideally, liberty and freedom.) "progressive" is the late 19th century marxist communalism/statist/communist/fascist/socialist movement distilled in America and parts of Europe in a less threatening, less "revolutionary", more subtle, internal takeover mode. With such charming aspects, ( never, ever admitted to or discussed by progressives ) as racism, Eugenics, mass hatred, class envy, and always, always, the core of marxist thought, Lies. ( glad to discuss "dialectic materialism", the heart of propaganda and communist thought another time ) But I'm not going to change the labels, no matter how false. Crusty, Many Churches ( I'm assuming "christian" ) have been becoming homes for "liberation theology". ( the wiki article has multiple issues. Really, it's about half lies... ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_theology A little history... http://frontpagemag.com/2010/03/31/world-council-o f-churches-the-kgb-connection/ And, the current Pope, ( former head of the Holy Inquisition ) has declared liberation theology, "demonic". I agree. ( not with much, but that, we're good on. ) Just for your info, the arguments about our Presidents faith have actually been answered by Barack. Brought up in Islam, he rejected it in adolescence ( a real problem in Islamic Law, but not to free people ) then after joining his Chicago Church, adopted liberation theology. That's from his multiple "auto"biographies, and from his speeches on the campaign trail and as president. I believe him. ( not about much, but this, I believe. ) | ||
| Aesquire |
Oh, don't worry, no one ever gets hurt in schools, they're weapon free zones.  http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2010/07/black-liberati on-theology-exposed.html ( seriously, glad no one got hurt. ) | ||
| Court |
Shame is that in most areas of the country. . .thanks to the teachers unions . . . it would be impossible to fire him. The worst part about all of this (and I am seeing it every day) is that the kids get such terrible educations. If your kid, between 7th grade and 12th grade, isn't spending 2 hours an evening with the cellphone off, the computer off and the video game off . . . they're being robbed. Read about the NYC "rubber rooms". http://www.wnyc.org/articles/wnyc-news/2010/apr/16 /city-agrees-to-shut-the-rubber-rooms/ http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/08/31/0908 31fa_fact_brill http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/29/education/29rubb er.html | ||
| F22raptor |
I live in community that has homes ranging from 200k to the average of 450k and up...problem is,the parents are too P.C. to "rock the boat" If you say anything,your student will be black-listed by all the teachers, so we are all forced to keep quiet...This will effect their grades,starting spots on the athletic teams,and college recommendation letters.To say the least,they got us by the short-hairs,and they will not let go.. | ||
| Imonabuss |
It would be awesome if Walker would just fire them and replace them, like Reagan did with the air traffic controllers. There are so many young graduate teachers who can't get jobs and who would bring a fresh perspective to the classroom. Enough of these bullying entitlement manipulators "teaching" our children. | ||
| Toona |
Aww man, where's Rocco when you need him.... I'd like to hear his defense of this "teacher" | ||
| Pwnzor |
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| Court |
If your child was in fifth grade and the teacher abandoned the classroom over having to pay what is essentially a pittance toward their own retirement and health care . . how would you feel? I'm be enraged. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
The "labor" faithful would find a way to defend an ax murderer as long as his dues were current. | ||
| Xbniner |
I don't understand the hate for unions. I'm young, I'm not in a union, but I seriously fear what would happen if we let corporations and especially the government do whatever they want. I know unions are not the same now as when they got us fair wages, safe working conditions, and the weekend- but neither are corporations. I believe in banding together to negotiate for better benefits, or in most cases just to stay the same. I live in central Illinois so I'm surrounded by Caterpillar. Their last contract there were over 70 takeaways. That contract ends today and I feel pretty confident when we hear about the new contract, it will have takeaways too. Teachers are not the problem. Teachers dealing with my bratty self-entitled generation (and worse to come) and making very little doing so, then getting a pension to match their small salary is not what put us in this mess. The legislators who would cut education first are. If you are in the middle class these teachers aren't the enemy. Stop falling for it. | ||
| Sifo |
Xbniner, I can only speak for myself. One of my biggest problems I have with unions is that they protect incompetence, even promote it. Who hasn't heard of union workers coaching the new guy to slow it down so that the rest doesn't look bad? Once the new guy figures out that excellence is not rewarded and complacency is rewarded is it any wonder that you seldom get excellence? In the case of government workers it gets even worse. They are paid by taxpayer dollars that have a portion involuntarily confiscated (union dues) to pay for the union. The union then contributes to political parties (without your consent) to ensure that more money gets sent their way. If this wasn't being done by the government, it would be prosecuted as money laundering. Do you really think that teacher pay is low? I know when they were striking (for more pay) in my area about a decade ago the average salary was about $87K per year. That's a pretty good salary even without benefits! On top of that they only work maybe 9 months per year. I can only assume that they are in the same employment class as mine as far as unemployment benefits where the can claim unemployment during the summer (I'm part of the school system btw). Ad their benefits package on top of all of that and they are pushing what the current administration has labeled "the rich". I have no problem with people being rich, but I do think they should have to earn that kind of wealth beyond simply putting in the minimum effort so that the union will protect them. Trust me that there is much, much more that can be said on this subject, but I'm writing on an internet forum, not writing a book. | ||
| Two_seasons |
Xbniner: I'm not hating on the unions. I'm hating on the individual that talks like they know what is going on or those that want to contrinue spreading the lies about what this is really all about. Lets break down, point by point, your assertions... 1.) ..."corporations and gov't do whatever they want". First off, corporations compete to win business. Gov't, on the other hand, are a monopoly and dictate, yes dictate, what and how corporations and their employee do and don't do. Gov't is the dictator! 2.) ..."I know that unions and corporations are not the same as before..." They sure aren't. Unions have lost the faith of the American workers because they see them for what they have become. On the other hand, because of regulations and compliance to a whole plethora of change, corporations have had to adapt to gov't changes. Again, gov't is the dictator! 3.) Cat is under the same thumb as your current employer. Large or small, corporations have to comply with a monopoly, our gov't. It costs a lot of money to ensure that the gov't doesn't shut down your business. How is that different than a mobster asking for "a little off the top" to keep your business healthy? 4.) ..."teachers are not the problem..." How do you come to this conclusion? They are living large off the taxpayer, they work for a monopoly, public schools, and have excellent salary and benefits which most taxpayers will never enjoy. They are provided these salaries and benefits from people who are adjusting to the current market conditions and make, on average, less than a middle step public school teacher is paid. They teach a curriculum that is laced with breaking down the mores of American society. Public school teachers (the vast majority of them today), from elementary to university, are some of the most progressive, marxist, socialist people you'll ever meet. Indoctrination of this hatred for America and our freedoms and liberty start here! People that work at Cat earn a decent living. People that work for gov't earn a decent living, and here's the difference, and are able to retire in their mid-fifties. I don't know anyone in the private sector that has a salary/benefits package that is equal to what gov't employees have. Only CEO's of corporations have these kinds of perks. It's real simple. You can make your own way, be free with your thoughts, time, and move about whenever the mood strikes you. OR, you can be told what to do with your every breath. Limited gov't and states rights. That is what will keep all men free! | ||
| Strokizator |
The major difference between public and private unions are that the private unions, while wanting an ever increasing piece of the pie, are aware that there are limits to what they can squeeze out of management. They'll go right up to that edge and often over (with disastrous results ala GM & Chrysler)but for the most part know their boundaries. The public sector unions have no such bounds. They can ask for more and more knowing that all govt has to do is increase revenues. There's no chance that the State of Calif is going to pull up stakes and go overseas so they simply demand that the govt "find new sources of revenue" aka raise taxes on those who don't pay their fair share (another rant altogether). The problem is that all sources have been tapped out and revenues just aren't there so something must be done. Cut expenses by giving each employee less or cut the number of employees. It's a simple as that. I'm making less than I did a few years ago. The employees we have left are working 32 hours a week. What I don't have is a bunch of crazies in my lobby demanding full employment and bonuses as in years past. It's time for gov't workers to get in touch with the rest of the world. I also resent that my tax money is used for govt employee unions to pump millions of dollars into the campaign coffers of politicians who promise them ever increasing benefits. That's a serious conflict of interest. | ||
| Sifo |
To see the outrageous that comes from this, take a look at this... http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/union_classic_l e_en_jrQKCmKdjWQbMAtzqHASxI The example teacher is getting paid $100,049 per year to teach class. He only teaches one period though, then goes to his union job and collects another $50,461! The school then has to hire another substitute teach to teach the rest of his classes! All of this comes from taxpayer money! How many people do you personally know who get this kind of deal? If you know any, I'm willing to bet they are paid with tax payer $$$. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
For me it's simple. The blind animosity, taught and indoctrinated by the union leadership to the "worker", of profit and capitalism is the problem. Capitalism is the ONLY thing that will provide the standard of living sought by the "middle class" and yet it is the very object of scorn from bottom to top of organized labor. Organized labor is the antithesis of competition. It doesn't want to compete. It seeks to destroy competition. This is why organized labor aligns itself with other anti-capitalism causes and groups. It isn't uncommon to see SEIU, AFL-CIO, NEA, or other national union representatives at socialist and communist functions. Their goals are the same. The unions are simply hoping to be rewarded first when the communists take over as a payment for their efforts and loyalties. There isn't a pro-union person that isn't beholden to the core with the concept of wealth redistribution. Period. Capitalism says that if you want to make a better life for yourself, strike out on your own, build your own business, and create that better life for yourself. Organized labor says, I'll pay a small portion of my wages to have someone else at the point of a strike or a gun take prosperity from someone else without really having to earn it. Wisconsin is the prime example of this. Teachers, who have above market salaries and benefits, are protesting (and illegally striking) to force the continued payment of these wages and benefits by people who have had their incomes and benefits cut by market forces and the economy at large. The WEA threatens the state (or at least bribes the state) for benefits, and the state threatens the citizens with a gun (or prison or seizure of assets and property). Walker MUST remove collective bargaining power to permanently guarantee that wages are NOT dictated under threat of the WEA. No lasting changes to the budget can take place with collective bargaining still in place. This is Wisconsin's last gasp effort to prevent it from becoming the next Michigan. Although Tennessee appreciates all the new corporate headquarters and factories, we are willing to give up one more if that company will stay in Wisconsin and keep THAT state healthy. Unions simply drive up the cost of labor beyond the price capital is willing to bear. | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
Unions in large part make big contributions to politicians who I almost always disagree with on issues. Then when elected they give kick backs to those contributors using our money. The healthcare bill for example makes exemptions to select union employees. How much corporate taxes did GE pay last year? | ||
| Sifo |
This is why organized labor aligns itself with other anti-capitalism causes and groups. It isn't uncommon to see SEIU, AFL-CIO, NEA, or other national union representatives at socialist and communist functions. Their goals are the same. The unions are simply hoping to be rewarded first when the communists take over as a payment for their efforts and loyalties. FB, how can you say such a thing? Let them speak for themselves! | ||
| Blake |
speaker: "If I can make a ryhme!"... crowd of marxists: "Then we'll let you waste our time!" (fists pumping in air) | ||
| Two_seasons |
Corporations HAVE NEVER PAID TAXES out of their profits. Corporations pay taxes as a cost of doing business. Then, those taxes are passed on to the customer of that product. Simple. | ||
| Sifo |
Funny that just a few months ago there was a thread about the riot in Greece over government cut backs. IIRC the original point of that thread was that the US was heading in that direction. Certain folks took the position that it would never come to that in the US. It really didn't take long to prove them wrong. | ||
| Xbniner |
I guess I wasn't clear in my last post. I'm not against small government or pay cuts. It's obvious at this point that paycuts need to happen, but to eliminate collective bargaining is a mistake. It is a person's only real tool to make a difference. You can say it's only temporary, but if bargaining goes away it will never come back. I admit unions aren't perfect, but do you have a better solution? The way I see it, Union-breaking is as socialist as our government is becoming. Collective bargaining is a type of capitalism in that employees say what they are willing to work for and companies say what they are willing to pay. Sometimes paycuts happen and that sucks, but if that's what the market dictates then deal with it. Don't forget that consumers dictate the prices in a true capitalist society, not the companies or the government. If we lose collective bargaining, we have no voice. And as a couple of you stated that if you aren't happy with your compensation then go elsewhere, between outsourcing and decreasing pay, where will you go? Not to change the subject, but breaking the union in the name of freedom is as ridiculous as justifying the Patriot Act as necessary for our safety. Any time we give up any of our freedom or our power to anyone, whether it be government or corporation, we inch closer to this socialist future everyone seems to fear. Breaking a union is a step towards a worse future for our kids, not a better one. 2Seasons: When I said teachers aren't the enemy, I meant the government is. You say increasing government power is bad? Well I agree. And this is a case of government gaining power. | ||
| Sifo |
The way I see it, Union-breaking is as socialist as our government is becoming. ????????????????????????????????????????????? |
