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Pammy
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Call his Mother. Unless he is a true degenerate, this will bother him.
Be nice and civil to her while explaining what a hardship your son is putting on you and your roommate.
I know it sounds juvenile, but he should respect his Mom. If she is a decent woman, she will try to set him straight. Sometimes drastic measures are called for.
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Sayitaintso
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pammy I thought of that also, another tactic is to contact his place of employment (depending on the type of job e has, if an employer knows an employee has financial troubles they may let them go for fear of being stolen from).

Either one though would be a last straw type thing b/c they would burn any bridges that may remain.
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Skinstains
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can't believe it took that many posts before anyone suggested a knuckle samich ! When he comes home with a pocket full of money from cashing his paycheck just beat his ass and take the money. Tell him you will stop beating him and taking his money when you have paid yourself all that he owes you and a projected 5 months more. It's that easy. If that doesn't work for some reason (I can't imagine it wouldn't as it has for me in similar circumstances) I would elevate my efforts to calling his mommy and telling on him. Excellent idea Pammy, not as fun as beating and robbing him but that is a cool idea. Unless his mother is a useless leach like him.
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Brumbear
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+ 1 to Skinstains I find that a good ol fashioned ass kicking will work wonders myself. I myself would probably grab a can of mace blast him when he comes home rubber hose the shyt out him. And then refuse to let him wash up burn you shyt then tell him you want all the back money as well or it's moving day.
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I once saw this escalate among room mates to where one talked a Caterpillar operator into crushing the others '69 Chevelle convertible. Pay back was a burned out BMW. Great fun to watch - as a third party.
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Court
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>People without integrity won't suddenly get better.

That's it.

Add up what's it cost you so far . . . just for the fun of it . . to see what this "life lesson" cost you. I suspect you, even letting it go on for as long as you did, got off cheap.


quote:

Fast bucks make fast friends.

-- "Moe" Canfield - 1969




Alternatively I have some friends in Brooklyn, some of whom a number of folks here have met, who work in the field of "loan administration". They have an exceeding impressive track record.
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Blake
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 05:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The dude is not your friend. Drop him and set him straight on the situation in simple, clear terms.

I'm guessing he feels the power that he holds over you with you wanting to keep him as a friend. He'll respect you if you just lay it out straight; act like a leader willing to ditch him as a friend if he doesn't behave responsibly and honorably towards you.

Why would you ever want a "friend" like that? That is no friend. That is a selfish, inconsiderate, irresponsible jerk.

Seek out friendship with those who are a blessing for you. Avoid all others.

Other than that, I agree with Bill.
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Ourdee
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)




Yep, fun to watch. Rotten game to play.
Once you start, you can't close your eyes.
I'd turn off the utilities, get my name off of them. Let him turn them back on.

Here is my wrong thought,"2 on 1, water board him every payday". NOTE: DON'T DO IT!
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd turn off the utilities, get my name off of them. Let him turn them back on.

That might not be a bad idea. It's still going to be a battle of wills to see who can outlast the other.

DO NOT renew the lease with him on it.
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Scottorious
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yah as fun as some of the violent things sounds...he still has a key to the garage that my motorcycles are kept in. I would hate to see that one "tipped over". I think the best bet will be to turn off the utilities and just suffer. I can outlast him for sure...hes the kind of guy that takes 2-3 showers a day to my shower every other day. I also have been wrestling with the idea of this isnt how a friend would act. I do know that he has gotten money as he just hit a deer and it destroyed the grille on his truck. Well there is a new aftermarket grille in his room waiting to be put on now and its not insurance that paid for it. We'll see if I see any even small installments in the future to make it look like he is putting forth an effort to pay. the buttering the floor was a really funny video, but once again I would hate to find my motorcycle on its side.
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Perhaps just chain & lock the new grill to the plumbing somewhere until he gets current with the bills. No damage is done, and it will be an ever present reminder of his responsibilities.
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No_rice
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yah as fun as some of the violent things sounds...he still has a key to the garage that my motorcycles are kept in. I would hate to see that one "tipped over".

does he keep a vehicle in the garage? if not, change the lock. simple fix.
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Etennuly
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 08:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pammy has the right idea for a first attempt. Nobody wants his mom involved with his finances at that age. My eldest son had a friend/moocher doing the same stuff, after months he contacted moocher's mom.....ta-da.....bill paid. Oh, and the guy cleared out as his mom made him move back home until he could afford to live on his own.
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Skinstains
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't worry about the bike in the garage. Just shake him a little longer till the money and the keys fall out of his pocket. Trust me, once this bum takes a thorough pasting (without seriously hurting him) he will know that he has found your limit. he won't try to get even because you will just beat him down again and again and again 'till all is right in the world.

Hey Brum...are you sure you're not my evil twin ???
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Kyrocket
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We're assuming he can take him. What happens IF he confronts him and HE gets beat down? Forget any back rent much less forward rent. I can see a future episode of Bully Beatdown coming. Love to watch that show.
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Rudy
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sheesh, I wouldn't resort to violence quite as fast as some have suggested.

I lived with some guys during my undergrad who refused to split the cable / internet. As suggested earlier in the thread, I fixed that by blocking them from using the internet and I unplugged all their coax cables from the splitter. The problem was solved pretty quickly after that.

Since your problem is a bit more complex, I would suggest telling him to pay up, and set "goals" for how much he needs to pay and set deadlines. If he misses a deadline, flip the breakers for his room and lock the breaker box. If you can, try and get a key to lock the bathroom or something. Turn off the hot water heater for days that you don't take showers.

I also like the idea of locking his new grille to something so he can't put it on his truck.

If these measures don't work, I would then call his mother.

If that doesn't work, ask your other roommate to hold him down while you beat the tar out of him.

I learned from my roommate experiences, even while it was fun sometimes, that getting a 1 bedroom apartment (while more expensive than splitting a larger apartment or house) is MUCH worth the added expense. You don't have to worry about other people chipping in or cleaning up after themselves. It's overall much nicer.

Anyways, good luck! Let us know how things turn out.
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Blk_uly
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Take the new grill out of his room and put with a friend. Tell him it's collateral on the the Utility LOAN!
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Skinstains
Posted on Friday, February 25, 2011 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Smack him like a bitch and tell him you're dun with this pussyfooting crap ! Tell him face to face "you stole from me and you are not going to do it any more, now pay up ! I hate this guy already and I don't even know him. Don't be silly...of course you can take him. He owes you money !
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Scottorious
Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2011 - 02:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

its not really a question of "taking" him. We actually have some mats in our basement and have a "fight club" occasionaly with our friends in our basement and I have repeatedly "taken" him. I honestly would not ever go that route. I like the more thought out tactics that are more annoying than just the pain of getting beat up. Like the fact that sometimes paper cuts are more annoying than full on cuts. Like cutting out the internet just randomly. Or remotely turning off the hot water while he is showering via an electric actuator on the valve. I believe tomorrow I will buy a new bunch of paper and print out an entire book from his printer while hes at work. I blame these evil thoughts on all of you guys.
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86129squids
Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2011 - 02:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There's a great book, published by re/Search press, titled "Pranks".

I consider it a book of philosophy.



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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2011 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pain is temporary - humiliation lasts a lifetime.



You could turn the water off at the water heater and lock it. It would be a minor hassle for you to get a hot shower, but force him into cold only.
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Brumbear
Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2011 - 09:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pain and humiliation is better cue in Monty python alleluia and viola a YOUTUBE moment is born!!!
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Pammy
Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2011 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The reason I suggested his Mommy is that she will see it as her duty to set it right. Especially if he hasn't been away from home long. She will be embarrassed and feel that she didn't complete her "job". At the very least he will be nagged from a very close and prominent support system in his life.
The important thing if you do choose to take this road is that you be impeccably respectful to her about him. You should be mature as well. He will spin the ordeal a different way and she will want to believe that he is not the loser that he is. Also a descent girl/woman will not want to be associated with such a loser child, so if he has a love interest...keyword being love. Much different from lust although that isn't beyond scope either.

If you truly want to know how to torture a being, above the law and irreproachable, you need to consult with a female ; ).
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Court
Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2011 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>Smack him like a bitch

Be mindful, when you do this, that assault is a felony.

It's really ugly if you happen to be over 21 and he isn't.

DAMHIK

P.S. - If you do, set aside about $8500 for legal fees
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2011 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Be mindful, when you do this, that assault is a felony.

Not always. I happen to know that in WY it can be a misdemeanor assault, punishable up to 90 days in jail. That really confused me though, because I was under the impression that misdemeanors didn't carry jail time. It's funny what you learn on the road.
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Court
Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2011 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>Not always

Feel free to make that legal decision on your own.

I learned.
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Daves
Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2011 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep, in this day and age of calling the cops and suing you really can't just beat his ass(like he deserves).
I'm pretty sure a punk like him would call the cops and then sue you instead of taking a beating, knowing/realizing he was wrong and deserved it.
It's funny how people like that "deserve" lots of things, as long as they are good. But give them something bad that they also deserve and they sue you.

You are never going to see your money.
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2011 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fear Pammy.

Anytime I see someone displaying one of those "No Fear" monikers, I ask 'em "do you know Pammy?". They don't. If they did, they'd not be so foolishly brazen.

What the heck is behind those "no fear" monikers anyway?
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Daves
Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2011 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They have never met Chuck Norris or ate Okra
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Slaughter
Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2011 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think that the "No Fear" guys parading their bumper stickers around town are the same ones that think that chrome bimbo mudflaps or "porn star" logo on back window will attract "the babes." They don't seem to realize that the only people they're impressing are MEN with similar delusions.

Masculine manly men among masculine manly men.
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