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     Drkside79 |
(CBS) - A $31 marijuana sale has landed 25-year-old Oklahoma mother of four Patricia Spottedcrow and a grandmother 10 years in prison. Police say Spottedcrow and her 50-year-old mother Delita Starr sold $11 worth of pot to an undercover cop at her home in 2009 on New Year's Eve, according to The Oklahoman. Two weeks later, the cop came back and bought $20 worth of marijuana. Both women were arrested and charged with drug distribution. And since Spottedcrow's children were present in the home during the drug deal, the pair was also charged with possession of a dangerous substance in the presence of a minor, according to the paper. The Oklahoman reports that prosecutors tried to cut a deal, but both women decided to plead guilty and take their chances with the judge, since they had no prior convictions. But the judge threw the book at them and sentenced them to 10 years in prison. Spottedcrow was also charged another two years for possession after police found marijuana in her jacket pocket when she was picked up to go to prison. Spottedcrow began her sentence on Dec. 29, 2010. | ||
| Drkside79 |
WTF this is absolutely ridiculous. 10 F*ckuing years. If nothing else how much will it cost to hold these woman over a victimless crime. SHAME ON YOU Oklahoma SHAME ON YOU!!!! | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
I bet oklahoma residents feel much safer now. | ||
| Sifo |
Victimless crime? Is the 9 year old she involved in the drug dealing not a victim? Do you know anything at all about the victims of the drug trade? This is a house with three generations of drug dealers. With any luck the third generation will get the hint to not be involved in illegal drug trade. | ||
| Boliver |
Oh yeah real safe here in Oklahoma. We just outlawed chicken fighting a few years back. And we also legalized tattoo parlors. woo hoo we're in the now. I believe it is a federal offense after 2 grams of weed in here Oklahoma. Seriously though the penalties are harsh but lets be honest. She was selling and smoking grass around kids. I say lock them up. | ||
| Reducati |
"Spottedcrow was also charged another two years for possession after police found marijuana in her jacket pocket when she was picked up to go to prison. " she sounds like a real winner... four children, no mention of father(s) in the picture, selling dope outta the house, in front of her kids, eff um.... | ||
| Court |
Idiots. I feel sorry for the kids. Eventually, we'll likely be supporting them. | ||
| Sifo |
four children, no mention of father(s) in the picture Separated from her common-law hubby. If you read a few news stories you start to get a more complete picture. The Judge didn't get the info though the filter of the news media.
http://www.newser.com/story/112526/mom-gets-10-yea r-sentence-for-selling-31-of-pot.html EDIT: I personally would likely have removed the kids from the Grandmother also. We will wind up blaming the Judge when the kids turn out to be criminals too. (Message edited by SIFO on February 23, 2011) | ||
| Sayitaintso |
I have never smoked pot, so I dont have a perspective on how it effects someone, but to me the way we (as a country) handle pot is close to the way booze was handled in the days of prohibition.....the world didn't end with the passage of the 21st amendment and the repeal of the 18th amendment, I doubt it if legalizing pot will have a great negative impact either. 10 years seems like a long time...... I wonder if the judge had her hemorrhoids flair up the night before sentencing or something? (Message edited by sayitaintso on February 23, 2011) | ||
| Macbuell |
We WILL be a police state soon. | ||
| Sayitaintso |
Eventually, we'll likely be supporting them. Most likely we already were... WIC, Food Stamps, etc. | ||
| Cowboy |
I have no problem with do the crime do the time.---My problrm is leting rich bastards of scott free. | ||
| Bikertrash05 |
Ah, the good old "war on drugs", and in this case, a side of "for the children. Absolutely ridiculous. On a personal note, I worked with a guy who sold 1 lb of weed, 1/4 lb a week for four consecutive weeks, to an undercover, and got probation. | ||
| Sifo |
On a personal note, I worked with a guy who sold 1 lb of weed, 1/4 lb a week for four consecutive weeks, to an undercover, and got probation. They call that a snitch. | ||
| Geforce |
Having grown up around a parent who constantly used and sold drugs... I have no remorse, nor do I regret testifying against my own blood to put her sorry @ss in prison. I, like those children, didn't have a choice at the time. They'll both be out and selling/using again before they hit their 10 year mark anyhow. Just my opinion. I don't like drugs, nor do I like those who use them around/near children. Especially the hard stuff. | ||
| Sifo |
They'll both be out and selling/using again before they hit their 10 year mark anyhow. They only gave jail time to one of them in the first place. You are right though, the other will certainly be out in a fraction of that 10 years. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
if it was coke or crack, maybe she could have gotten elected as mayor.... or does that only happen in DC ? I personally think that we should use Johnson Atoll as a drug Vacation destination, Pay a 10k fee for the flight and housing and smoke, shoot, pop, all you want, cant leave unless you have been six months clean and sober. druggies would love it and I would appreciate them being some where else and a deserted island 'vacation' suits me fine. | ||
| Kyrocket |
I've never smoked pot, hell I've never had the first beer BUT as many of my friends will tell you I'd more than likely be in favor of legalizing it. Until then it is I-L-L-E-G-A-L!! Yeah the sentence is harsh but I'd bet a months wages that the women knew before hand that it was ILLEGAL to sell it. Just as with our (KY) current Senate Bill 6 that gives LEO's the authority to arrest illegal aliens, what part of ILLEGAL don't they understand? They're illegal in the first place, why do we need more laws to have the authority to arrest them? We can debate the sentence but the crime was a crime was a crime. | ||
| R100rs |
the ten years was probably due to kids being present while sales where taking place.the nine year old according to the news account was making change for grandma.the same news account states the mother had a common law husband. goes to say she just wanted to make some extra money.so what we have here is three adults placing four children in danger of someone coming in their home and attempting to rob them in a dope deal gone bad,which happens all the time.the mother has a job,so what we are probably talking about is some pothead who wanted to sell enough to cover her smoke.idiots. the reason i stopped smoking pot 27 years ago is you have to talk to potheads! | ||
| 1125rcya |
May god strike your very souls who pass judgment upon this lady and her grandmother and calling her unfit for society including the Judge! Hateful uncaring people need to be exterminated from this world before the next. Most people are not good judges of life value when it comes to a law created by MAN. I don’t smoke pot, but in no way, do I think my thoughts should infringe on other people’s rights. People infringe every day on the rights of the people who are less educated and poverty stricken. FYI charley sheen smokes crack, free…keep looking at how the rich are treated and you shall see your stupidity come to life…You shallow POS who should be banished in my eyes. You’ll be glad I’m not a judge because I would throw your ashes to dust. | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
The thing we don't know is how often or how much she was selling. If it was little bits maybe 10 years is harsh. But keep that shyt away from your kids. If for nothing else to keep them out of danger. And yes it sucks when rich people get off but if they lived in california it wouldn't be 10 years for the poor either.. | ||
| Xdigitalx |
Well... I am sure she KNEW it was against the law. Like all other laws, you must obey them. Selling any type of DRUGS out of a home with minors, kids, babies, children is NOT ok in any way shape or form. People infringe every day on the rights of the people who are less educated and poverty stricken WTF??? What about the CHILDRENS' rights to be brought up and raised in a SAFE and healthy environment?? I guess that doesn't matter? The only real POS is the mother/grandmother who KNOWS better!! the reason i stopped smoking pot 27 years ago is you have to talk to potheads! I laughed at that statement because it is SOOO TRUE!! Like talking to Beavis and Butthead!! Imagine if it becomes legaized??? Beavis and Buttheads EVERYWHERE!!! ROTFL...Seee...I dont need pot to laugh or eat food!! LOLOL | ||
| Xl1200r |
I can't even believe how ridiculous this is! I mean, come on! Who buy $11 worth of weed? lol But seriously... have never smoked pot, so I dont have a perspective on how it effects someone, but to me the way we (as a country) handle pot is close to the way booze was handled in the days of prohibition..... I have experience both first and second hand and will say to the day I die that alcohol is, without any doubt, a much more dangerous substance to someone's health, the friends and family and to society as a whole. My feelings on the legal-status aside, it is illegal right now and exposing kids to something like that deserves some punishment. We don't know the whole story, but if all the case has is $30 worth it seems a bit steep to me, but what do I know. | ||
| Xdigitalx |
but if all the case has is $30 worth it seems a bit steep to me, but what do I know. your right we don't know the full story, but who knows what she was selling last week? or planned to sell next week? | ||
| Blake |
The CBS report is missing some pertinent information. It reports how much pot the officer bought. It fails to report how much pot the women had in their possession. The OP breathlessly objects to the sentence based on a $30 sale of pot. Well, what if they had a lot more on premises? | ||
| Paint_shaker |
IMO 10 years is a bit harsh for selling a minor amount of weed. But it's not like they didn't know weed was illegal. It's no secret there is a "war" against weed and other drugs and with a lot of zero tolerance for selling. | ||
| Court |
>>>The CBS report is missing some pertinent information. You're kidding, right? CBS was missing some facts? I think I'll tune in MSNBC . . . where they are ALL missing.  | ||
| Reducati |
"On a personal note, I worked with a guy who sold 1 lb of weed, 1/4 lb a week for four consecutive weeks, to an undercover, and got probation." from my experience, People flip on others all the time...gets them a lighter sentence, and their information is only available to leo, states attorney, and the judge. | ||
| Sayitaintso |
But isnt rhetoric so much more fun and entertaining than silly old facts? The same comment applies to all sources of infotainment, regardless of the political leaning and flavoring. | ||
| Xdigitalx |
I had a roomate in the early 90's, he had a wife and 4 yr old kid but they were seperated but still together... he worked his ass off 2nd shift, (+lots of OT) He smoked alittle pot and drank beer to kill the edge. A week before xmas after working a long shift he was caught driving too close to a fire truck (around 2am on his way to see his wife and kid) Along with failing breath test, he had open containers AND just bought an oz of pot. The cop pulled him over in what happened to be a drug-free-school-zone. I think that makes the sentence 5x more severe.He spent at least a few years in prison. ---------------------- BUT: It was 2 am, he was almost home, it was only a small amount of weed... he is a hard working father, he needs to support his family... etc etc.. all had no effect on the law/judge. Where was their christmas spirit!!! -------------------------- The fact that it was a drug free area makes the sentence automatically harsh. This should also be the fact in sentencing where kids, children, babies are present with illegal substances. Children, Kids, Babies.. ALL should be drug-free zones automatically. (more harsh sentences) |
