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Swordsman
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been thinking lately that I'd like to take a nice week long road trip by myself sometime this year. No idea where. I just wanna get away for a bit.

But traveling by myself, I'm wondering if maybe I should take a pistol. I know the chances of needing it are very slim, but I'm of the opinion that it's better to have it and not need it, yadda yadda.

For you guys that travel with firearms, how do you carry? I have NO permits, so maybe I'm not even allowed to have one? I dunno what the laws are regarding that in GA, or how they apply over state lines.

Or maybe I should just pick up a stun gun...? Or maybe I'll strap a ninja sword to my back! Yeah, that's it!

Thanks for any info!

~SM
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Azxb9r
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think it is a good idea to take a sidearm along on road trips...just make sure you know and comply with the laws in any of the places you are going to visit. Nothing ruins a vacation like ending up in jail.
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Jb2
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Personal protection is the responsibility of the individual. Don't expect to ever have a cop there when you're being assaulted by man or beast. Lots of things to consider but most solo travelers, including me, pack a little insurance for worst case scenarios. ; )
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check with your local sheriff's department and here: http://www.usacarry.com/georgia_concealed_carry_pe rmit_information.html
All it takes for a permit in AL is about 10min and $20. Different states have different regulations. My permit is good for a many states but not all.
It looks like Georgia has similar coverage. Here are the states that will honor an Georgia Carry Permit. Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Wyoming
There are a few more that honor it for GA residents only (fine if you're passing through but not if you move there)

Once you plan your trip figure out what the laws are in any states that don't honor your right to carry. You might just have to keep the gun unloaded and in a locked case inside your bags.
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Etennuly
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All states have their own rules about hand guns. I can tell you that with a Tenn carry permit many states have reciprocity that allow Tenn rules to hold in their states. However there are NO GUN states like NY and California who only allow criminals to have guns, by their own rules.

It is best to look up your state's rules and abide by them so that you can feel comfortable about doing it correctly and avoiding possible arrest and seizure of your weapon. Your state will tell you which other states will allow their rules to carry over and those that won't.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Handguns are tough. Laws differ state to state, and not many honor each others (though it may be more likely in your neck of the woods).

A quick search shows that for GA you DO NOT need a permit if you're carrying on your property, in your home, in your 'motor vehicle' or place of business. Not sure how that would work out as far as being on the bike, but the problem would then be that the minute you step off, even to fill with gas or take a leak, your breaking the law. You'd have to read the actual law as it's written... perhaps your motorcycle jacket can be considered part of your 'motor vehicle' as it's required for safe operation... I have no idea, but there are surely stranger exceptions out there.

If you start crossing state lines you'll need to see how they work. That's complicated with or without a permit. Up where I am, I pretty much can't leave the state with any firearm, let alone a handgun, without contacting the headquarters for each state police unit and let them know my intentions, and hope they don't have a problem with it.
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My friend who is military and always carries would put it to me this way.
"You wear a helmet when you ride right? Well you don't ever want to need it but it's there just in case. That's why I carry. It's protection just like your helmet, just in case"

I don't often carry, but I see his point and will probably get a smaller carry pistol eventually.

(Message edited by not_purple_s2 on February 17, 2011)
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

However there are NO GUN states like NY and California who only allow criminals to have guns, by their own rules
I can have and carry, in Ca. just not concealed or loaded.. But fortuanatly the crimanals can load it and hide it. not to mention get better cheaper firearms. sorry rant off.

Carry laws very and some states are VERY strict like not_purple said. And if they do catch you they will throw the book at you...
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BTW blow guns are illegal to carry in Cali to..
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Drkside79
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you are coming to Illinois stay out of Chicago and for the rest

If a non-resident is coming to Illinois to hunt and would like to bring their firearm, how do they legally transport it?

Non- residents must be legally eligible to possess or acquire firearms and ammunition in their state of residence. It is recommended that, in order to be in compliance with all statutes, non-residents transport all firearms:

1. Unloaded, and
2. Enclosed in a case, and
3. Not immediately accessible or broken down in a nonfunctioning state.
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Stirz007
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Unless you have a CCP, you cannot carry it loaded, legally. So then the question becomes do you want to be in potential violation, or carry a dog that has no bark? Sometimes just having the dog is enough, but only if the other guy doesn't have his own dog.

Some states still allow you to carry UNCONCEALED - as in exposed in a holster outside your clothing. That's always a bit iffy if the LEO sees it, especially in an urban area. And nowadays, folks get a little freaked out when you walk into the C-Store with that 1911 on your hip.
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Illinois is the only state I see where it is illegal to carry either open or concealed. So don't go there.

I think this would cover any situation where you can't carry.

Code of Federal Regulations
Title 18 > Part I > Chapter 44 > § 926a
§ 926A. Interstate transportation of firearms
Release date: 2005-08-03
Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/u sc_sec_18_00000926A000.html

I would imagine that a locked gun case enclosed in a tail or side bag would be ok.
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Carbonbigfoot
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Come to Texas. Problem solved.

R
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't leave the house unarmed. I sure wouldn't take a road trip without.

I'd get your CCP if you don't have it and have time.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LCP goes everywhere with me.
My trip to Louisiana this past summer I had a walther PPK.
Small carry guns are great for trips. And daily.
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can carry in Georgia as long as it's in plain sight.
Just like carrying that long ass samurai sword on your back while you're riding ; )
You'll need a permit to conceal and carry.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can get some good info state by state here... http://www.nraila.org/recmap/Recguide.pdf

Of course try as they may, that info can be out of date at any time. The one time that I really wished I had a gun with me on the road, I didn't. The Sheriff was over an hour away. What followed was an experience that I don't care to repeat.

I wouldn't consider concealed carry without the appropriate permits though. A good alternative would be pepper spray. Find one that is marketed for use on bears.
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Cowboy
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i CARRY 99.9% OF the time--remember try to shoot a S O B when he is not looking that way they want be moving around and are easyer to hit.
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Rex
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 07:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

These days, I think I would carry.
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Kyrocket
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds like everybody pretty much cleared it up. Just for comparison, I just got my CCDW in Ky. It cost $75 for the eight hour class and then another $60 at the Sheriff's office for various things and timewise it was about 2 1/2 months by the time all the backgrounds were done and paperwork filled out. Like was said above get it where you live and lots of states will reciprocate. I was told if I was going out of state just to call the State Police and let them know.
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 07:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also when you get your pistol practice practice practice and then practice some more. Study safe handling as it will save your ass one of these days.
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

New York is not a NO GUN state. New York City makes it very difficult to obtain a permit. Outside of NYC it is very easy to get a pistol permit. Each county is different and some are more or less likely to issue a concealed carry permit, but a permit to own is generally a piece of cake.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

its either strapped on my hip in open carry, or concealed, if you really want you panties in a wad, you should be more concerned abou the SBS in the saddlebag.
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Swampy
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Then keep the damn thing clean, there is nothing worse than squeezing the trigger and the thing just goes CLICK!
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Rah7777777
Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 12:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ruger LCP is an awesome carry gun!
I carry mine in my tank bag on long trips, if I go inside somewhere along the way, just pop the 3 clips on the tank bag and take it in with me....

Wouldn't go on a trip without it!
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Blasterd
Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 12:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I carry a weapon everywhere I go every day, that's the only way to go. Of course I have a CC permit so it makes it ok for me to do so. I just made it a habit like carrying a cell phone or wallet or whatever you take with you when you leave the house, no chance I won't have it if I may need it so....
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Ratbuell
Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 12:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No permit here. MD is tough on CC applications, too...need to have a "reason" (usually an employer saying "they have to protect $XX,XXX worth of inventory on a nightly basis....") to aid the process. I do eventually want/need to get mine, either carry or concealed carry.

That said...out of reach, out of sight...well...it got my dad through 3 tours in Korea, it'll get me through some road trips ; )
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Smoke
Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 07:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

on long trips mine is in the front pocket(loaded) of the sportbag strapped across the pass seat. otherwise in the tankbag when i feel it necessary to take a weapon. out here in the swamp is a constant carry if you want. : )
tim
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 08:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Then keep the damn thing clean, there is nothing worse than squeezing the trigger and the thing just goes CLICK!




Unless it's double action. Then it would go "CLICK. CLICKCLICKCLICKCLICKCLICK."
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99savage
Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I could carry I would carry
Sadly, live in New York & travel thru Canada when going interesting places. A carry permit is just about impossible to obtain in NY & for all practical purposes Canada does not permit firearms of any kind to cross the border.

Avoid big cities so carry interest is mostly because frequently camp in bear country.

Incidentally, Canada does not allow pepper spray, Mace, et-all to cross the border but they have never even asked to see the Gurkha Knife I usually pack
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Stirz007
Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some of the non-lethal stuff may be worth considering. Tasers and pepper spray (already mentioned) are 'street legal' in most states without permit.

The most effective strategy IMO, is to keep awareness up and avoid the problem in the first place. (like the time I walked into a C-store as a robbery was in progress - shoulda looked through the door before I just wandered in there).
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Swordsman
Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wanna stun glove that throws lightning bolts. That would be sweet.

Thanks for the feedback!

~SM
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Nillaice
Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

out here in gun-freindly VA; i have a CC permit, but choose to open carry more often.
concealed is less comfy, and doesnt get reactions out of people. ... is it wrong that i think thier reactions are funny?

my glock 27 fits snugly in the snap-pouch on the buell tankbag. ... food for thought.
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Kyrocket
Posted on Friday, February 18, 2011 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh, forgot to mention. Conversely look at laws not only for carrying but what will happen when/if you get caught. In Ky. if you get caught carrying concealed and you have a license but don't have it with you it's $25 bucks BUT if you get caught carrying without a license you lose the weapon and get a free stay at the Graybar Hotel from one to 366 days. And if you just wear it on your hip like Willie Nelson says, "for all the honest world to feel", you have no problem, just some strange looks and more than likely a paranoid call to the local PD.
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