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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 12:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reporting from Washington —
The Senate late Tuesday passed a three-month extension of provisions of the USA Patriot Act as Congress works to avoid a lapse of elements of the terrorist surveillance program that expire at the end of the month.


the rest of the article: 0,4310410.story,http://www.latimes.com/news/politi cs/la-pn-0215-patriot-act-senate-20110215,0,431041 0.story

I seem to remember this "patriot act" being a hot button issue with our last president and now its 2011.
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Cataract2
Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 01:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 01:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What I don't get is how this is even passing, EVERYONE that I know is against this, and thats on both sides on the isle. This isn't even something debatable like abortion, it is pure constitution violating evil.
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 02:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Froggy +1

I went over to my friends house today. He put on the news. I had to go. I get so upset it ruins my mood. Gives me a headache, and I end up spending the rest of the day trying to let it go.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 03:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's nothing they've not been doing in the name of fighting organized crime for decades is it?
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't have an issue with most of the provisions.
When law enforcement get a judge's permission to tap your phone, why shouldn't they be able to tap the phone you're using at the time, even if you switch phones? Roving wiretaps are OK in my book, and are in keeping with the spirit of the law requiring a court order to tap someone's phone. This isn't 1940. Phones are disposable.
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Stirz007
Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2011 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Frog - just throwing this out there...

""What I don't get is how this is even passing,...""

Two reasons: It is an entirely new industry worth billions, so lots of campaign contributors have a vested interest in perpetuating these programs.

The gummint has to appear to be 'doing something about terrorism', so any cutback would likely result in political attack on the cut-backers.

Not to mention that the NSA is building a new 1.6 Billion "data center" right down the road from here. This isn't the first time a government program is retained even after it is determined that it is a bad idea. Politicians rarely will admit they made a mistake or that their program isn't working out as promised.

Orwell was right... he was just off by 20 years or so.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2011 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confid ential/2011/02/group-targets-speaker-boehner-s-sma ll-h-house

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Minutes_Hate

Wisconsin. 2 minute hate sponsored by your teachers union. ( supported by their biggest recipient of donations.... )

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0211/DNC_pl aying_role_in_Wisconsin_protests.html?showall

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/education/l ocal_schools/article_c40c09e4-3a43-11e0-91c0-001cc 4c002e0.html

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-obama-whi te-house-media-operation-state-run/story?id=129133 19
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