| Author | Message | ||
     Cityxslicker |
I was five I told my mom I wanted to grow up to be a spatula Why do you want to be that ?!? I dont ever want to get married or have kids! No, you mean Bachelor. out of the mouths of babes, I knew early, it has been reaffirmed often. | ||
| Blake |
That's cool. I just hate hearing what seems a little like you running yourself down. You are worthy of fatherhood if you were so inclined. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Sex is easy. Fulfillment isn't. My wife and I have had this very conversation. The "currency" of sex is different for men and women. For any woman, sex can be had easily. Even less then desireable women can find someone who will bed them. As a result, sex isn't a precious commodity for women. For men, sex with a woman is scarce. It creates an inequity. Conversely, love/affection/committment are scarce and precious to women. For men, commitment and love are in ample supply. One could say that generally women give sex as a component of love and commitment and men give love and commitment as a component of sex. In the short run, men and women might be willing to give up their "currency" without fair trade, but eventually that trade balance will end in a termination of the relationship. Endless booty calls with no other intimacy, she'll tell you to quit coming around. Love and commitment with no physical intimacy, and he'll tell you to take a flying leap. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
this thread needs some Monty | ||
| Xl1200r |
Blake and Ft, I agree with both your posts 100%. I'd only add that if you were to ask, women dress the way they do for other women, not for men. Let's face it - guys don't need anything more than for a chick to be breathing and having all her limbs to "go for it" (and the latter could be debatable). Am I the only one that find my significant other extremely enticing when she's just lounging around in a pair of [snug fitting] sweat pants and a hoodie? | ||
| Xdigitalx |
Am I the only one that find my significant other extremely enticing when she's just lounging around in a pair of [snug fitting] sweat pants and a hoodie? Um... without pics ... YES.  At this point, you are the only one who know's what is under them there sweats now dontcha? | ||
| 86129squids |
"You have a point, however I'd offer that it is not reasonable to imagine that men are able to alter their natural attraction to female physical attributes. The more revealed, the more titillating/enticing. It is akin to foreplay. The female has little trouble covering and behaving respectfully towards herself. Failing to do so is in my view willfully inviting interest in that which is being advertised, the superficial sexuality. She is in effect giving away for free what should be guarded and reserved as HIGHLY valuable and intended only for those very special and truly deserving." So- Blake, what's your opinion on the chador? | ||
| Cityxslicker |
yes, women are too enticing alluring, and we men folk cant control ourselves They should all wear burkhas.... um no. if you cant manage to keep the willy in the holster because the show of an elbow, or ankle, or midriff, or cleavage... sounds more like the problem is with the willy owner, and the other way around. | ||
| Blake |
>>> Let's face it - guys don't need anything more than for a chick to be breathing and having all her limbs to "go for it" (and the latter could be debatable). We've drifted far off the point. My point is that fewer sluts will mean less promiscuity. Sluts don't respect or value themselves and thus give away what they otherwise would guard for someone very special. I see WAY too many young women showing up in public dressed like whores and prostitutes. The issue of women respecting themselves has NOTHING to do with how men behave or our sex drive. It has EVERYTHING to do with how women either respect and value themselves or how they cheapen themselves and debase themselves in the process. A woman who holds herself in high esteem, who values herself for who she is rather than what she can flaunt to gain attention is a woman who will have the strength of will be more likely to send Romeo packing until/unless he provides true loving commitment. This ain't complicated. It's basic human nature. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Deep down, men and women know the score. If a girl dresses like a ••••• and lets you hit it within a couple hours of meeting her, you will view her one way. If a girl dresses modestly, attractively, but modestly and is willing to giver herself physically ONLY after securing a commitment for love and devotion from another, you will view her another way. Now if you are cruising for a piece, you don't want the modest girl. Then again, she probably is a liar and won't pass Slick's screening. Men, in good part, determine what's on the market. Women won't sell (or give it away) if men aren't buying. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
the selection process is pretty stellar  1 electrical engineer 1 bio chemist 1 NSA linguist 1 DHS Agent no sluts. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
What they do doesn't guarantee their character. What is your search criteria? What "search engine' are you using? If you're picking the hottest girl at the table dancing contest, don't be surprised if she has a broken character regardless of where she gets her pay check from her day job. | ||
| Pammy |
Are there more than just 2 standards here or are you cro-magnons only going with 2? | ||
| Moxnix |
I'll stick with the 2, grunt, grunt. | ||
| Sifo |
I like 'em tall, I like 'em small, I like 'em all! | ||
| Xl1200r |
My girlfriend is neither a slut nor a saint. Kind of the point I was trying to make earlier. I fall into the same category. | ||
| Eaton_corners |
I would say that men are responsible for a womans self worth. Whether as a father, a brother, or a boyfriend or husband, men have a responsibility to protect women from physical as well as emotional dangers. I would even go so far as to say that Adam (yes, the Adam) is responsible to a great degree for Eve. I have put considerable thought into this opinion and I may not be able to fully explain my reasons. It mostly stems from the difference in brain function ie; men are more literal and women more emotional. I probably will not respond to contrary opinions because this is only mine and is intended as fuel for thought. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Actually the first round is pretty easy We aint ever getting married We aint ever having kids If you stick around, dont think you are changing my mind cuts through the chaff pretty fast. | ||
| Pammy |
Has anyone here ever heard the old analogy "it takes two to tango"? Well, shocker is...it doesn't just apply to dancing. Have I somehow been transported back in time? What year is it? Are women allowed to vote yet? "Now if you are cruising for a piece, you don't want the modest girl." Really? And what does this say about a mans character?} | ||
| Hootowl |
"And what does this say about a mans character" 99% of men will nail anything that moves. Men are sluts. You women are supposed to be keeping us in check.  | ||
| Pammy |
Okay, Hoot. I understand that. How about this reasoning to wait to become intimate with a man. He will inevitably do something so incredibly stupid that you can scarcely believe that you spoke to him, much less anything else. | ||
| Pammy |
And Blake, what about the shirtless,pot bellied, men I have seen walk into many a convenience store and/or Walmart? What are they inviting? "Boy, you got a perty mouth." | ||
| Court |
>>>He will inevitably do something so incredibly stupid Those of us with a long laundry list of stupid things over the years resent that. On the bright side . . . I haven't done anything stupid since . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8:45am | ||
| Cityxslicker |
fat trucker nudi mud flaps http://www.bonanza.com/booths/Rogersstuff/items/Wh ite_Vinyl_Fat_Man_Trucker_Mud_Flap_Decal_Sticker | ||
| 86129squids |
Blake, you posted: "You have a point, however I'd offer that it is not reasonable to imagine that men are able to alter their natural attraction to female physical attributes. The more revealed, the more titillating/enticing. It is akin to foreplay." Then, "The issue of women respecting themselves has NOTHING to do with how men behave or our sex drive. It has EVERYTHING to do with how women either respect and value themselves or how they cheapen themselves and debase themselves in the process." I'm not seeing how these two statements reconcile with each other. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Pammy, I am in NO way letting men off the hook. Cruising for tail is a statement of character. I want sex, but I don't really want to supply the commitment to get it. To me that is selfish. I was guilty of it when I was younger as well. I wanted some, and getting it with the least amount of cost on my part was the goal. There aren't "two categories", wh0res and nuns. The point I was trying to make was best case scenario. Life is long and fraught with failures and mistakes. The issue was one of respect for one's self and for others. In my experience, few women who gave away their sexual intimacy freely found that activity did anything but enhance their sense of self worth. At the same time, treating women like disposable sexual objects did anything but enhance a man's sense of self worth. Do you feel that Tiger Woods, as pu$$y marauder, truly feels better about himself? What about the women he was with? To me my self esteem is enhanced by treating my wife honorably, by being faithful, by providing her with the love and commitment she needs. The nookie that comes with that is awesome! My other point on modesty was one of supply and demand. When sex can be had easily without commitment, why bother being men of honor? What's a strip club without the strippers? If I want a woman, I have to do what it takes to get one. If the price of "entry" is a beer, a smile, and some chit chat, why bother paying with any more precious currency? Wouldn't you value more a man who wants and is willing to commit to YOU first BEFORE becoming physical? Were I a woman, I would. I place that squarely on the shoulders of men. That said, you are competing against other women who are willing to take much less for themselves. | ||
| Trackdad |
As my friend and mentor Richard "Rosie" Roussopolus told me once or twice about women, "If God made anything better he kept for himself." Every time he spoke about his wife he always referred to her as his Bride. Rosie rest in peace. | ||
| Pammy |
"My other point on modesty was one of supply and demand. When sex can be had easily without commitment, why bother being men of honor?" So a man of honor becomes dishonorable because a woman is willing to have sex with him? Did this man of honor elicit the intimacy or are you saying that the common man just walks down the street and is pounced upon? So when the man of honor asks for sex it should be denied by the ••••• in order to keep the man of honor honorable. Does this even make sense to you? " What's a strip club without the strippers? If I want a woman, I have to do what it takes to get one. If the price of "entry" is a beer, a smile, and some chit chat, why bother paying with any more precious currency? " Would there be a strip club if there were no patrons? Are these patrons men of honor once again lead astray by the evil woman/•••••? The price of entry? For an honorable man? I think you may be confused. You say you were guilty of this behavior when you were young? Does this mean when you were single? Or how long BEFORE you met your wife did you become a man of honor? Don't get mad. I'm being devil's advocate here and since I am an evil woman...well you get the idea.  And Court. Was it that you didn't do anything stupid or nobody caught you doing something stupid? I know my rule is that if I wasn't observed being stupid, then I wasn't. Ha Ha | ||
| Hootowl |
Ah, topical humor. I don't often get the chance so...women ARE evil! Women require multiples of time and money. women = time X money time = money so we have women = money X money, so women = money^2 money is the root of all evil money = sqrt(evil) money^2 = evil And since women = money^2 women = evil | ||
| Court |
>>>Was it that you didn't do anything stupid or nobody caught you doing something stupid? Quite the opposite . . I've spent a lifetime doing stupid things. >>>if I wasn't observed being stupid, then I wasn't. Ha Ha Ahhh . . but were it that simple. The last time I danced with my zipper down . . . yep . . a frickin' Texan captured it on film. It's always something . . . |
