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Midnight_rider
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2010 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=Iwa-lSVqA1M&v q=medium
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Midnightrider
Posted on Friday, December 31, 2010 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the great post! Some say there are no such things as coincidences - everything happens for a reason. I'm about 15 minutes away from heading for the airport (Baltimore) to greet some of the guys from my unit arriving here before they head home after a tour in Afghanistan.

Nice log-in name too!
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Iman501
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 05:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i was about to say....did you comment on your own post....
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've never heard that detailed account. I dont believe it's accurate. I do know it's Fort McHenry not Fort Henry and the British fleet was anchored in the Chesapeake Bay not the Atlantic Ocean.

I recall it was said the shelling could be heard in Gettysburg. Hard to imagine with all the mechanical noise around us in modern times that being possible.

(Message edited by Ferris_von_bueller on January 01, 2011)
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He forgot my favorite part. When they were told to take down the flag, the had a HUGE flag made to put up. A giant middle finger to the Brits. And just between us, everytime I here that song I get choked up. I can only hope we could hold up the flag if called upon.


to greet some of the guys from my unit arriving here before they head home after a tour in Afghanistan.

Glad to hear your friends made it home safe!
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One more thing, I was lucky enough to see THE flag at the Smithstonian. I really have no words to describe the feeling of pride and honor to be an American when I saw THE flag.
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 12:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great post!
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Mls1
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 02:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Awesome!
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Inaccurate. Why do some feel the need to embellish history
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Court
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>Why do some feel the need to embellish history

Let me take a crack at that . . .

I think we ALL embellish. Ask me about my kids . . I'l tell you the truth and it's going to sound spectacular . . . my dog, my wife . . . about anything and I'm going to give you the shiniest version I can. It's not dishonest, no facts are changed and it reflects the love and admiration I feel for all of them.

Americans talk about America that way. In our worst economy and under the weakest leadership we've ever had . . I just had guests here from Holland and today I've been corresponding with Buell folks in Rio de Janeiro. Be aware I will always, regardless of my personal pissyness at any given moment talk about our country with the same love and admiration.

I know the feeling the guy is talking about.

During a time when folks were sneaking off to Canada to avoid service in Viet Nam I went to the United States Marine Corps recruiting office and signed up. I suppose a big part of this was the way folks had taught and talked to me about this country.

While in the Marine Corps those feelings grew beyond my wildest expectations. Serving under folks like Commanding General Joseph Fegan, Jr (who I worked for), Colonel Woodring, Captain Hankins, Master Gunnery Sergeant Russell or Staff Sergeant Fox . . taught me the value and passion of patriotism.

I had the honor of meeting a Medal of Honor recipient while in the USMC and met 3 more last year at the local Marine Corps Ball. Anyone who's listen to their stories . . the one's that are light years beyond believable even before the embellishment starts . . can understand why folks who've been shot 5 times crawl back into live fire to save their buddies.

We have a love for this country. I don't think it's unique to our generation . . I'd bet every one of those soldiers at Fort McHenry felt that same love . . the love that only a person who has tasted freedom can know.

I don't get spun up in the small details like Fort McHenry or Fort Henry (they both exist . . Fort Henry would be a lot tougher to hit with a canon from the Atlantic) but I'd wager that the spirit and lesson of the story are dead accurate.

Think for a minute . . . just how bold, brave and committed those folks had to be to leave lives of relative comfort, come the Unites States and then take on, in armed conflict, arguably the most fearsome military in the world.

The details may vary but I'm confident the teller accurately conveyed what was in the hearts and soles of those brave Patriots.

I can't help but confess . . . I was wondering . . . well before the story got good . . . if I'd have had the guts to row that boat out to negotiate. Those guys had cajones we only dream of today.

Court
USMC
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Eaton_corners
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very well said Court. I would rather hear a little embellishment, than hear someone degrade or trivialize what those men did for us.
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well said Court & Steve!

RJ,
What embellishment?
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Inaccurate.

If that is not the real story, I would like to hear the real story.
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

my understanding was that fort McHenry was ordered by the Brits to take down the flag and surrender. Fort McHenry put up a bigger flag to defy them. Key watched from a boat as the fort was bombed. And if the flag was still up, that means we didnt lose or surredner. As far as the name of the fort its fort Mchenry as the song is from a poem called the defence of fort McHenry. As far as the bigging of trading prisoners and all, I never heard that, but I'm no scholar. Ironicly the melody is from a British song.
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Babired
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I LOVE Flag Day at Fort McHenry!
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDKfw8nysLA&feature =related

Btw, the larger flag, the one at the Smithsonian, wasn't raised until sunrise replacing the storm flag.

16 British warships NOT the entire British naval fleet.

dead bodies piled up at the base of the flag? BS

(Message edited by Ferris_von_bueller on January 03, 2011)
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Strokizator
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2011 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The colonies were engaged in a vicious conflict with mother country, Britain".

It was during the War of 1812. We were not "the colonies" and Britain was not the "mother country".

Francis Scott Key wrote a poem not a song. It wasn't made the national anthem until 1931.

Didn't watch the rest of the piece. He lost me after the first minute.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, January 04, 2011 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Inaccurate. Why do some feel the need to embellish history

Why do some feel the need to rewrite history to make the US look bad? (Not aiming this at any posts in this thread, but I've seen it many times, probably weekly in the news media.) Personally I'd rather see a bit of positive embellishment if we aren't going to get the absolute truth.
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