| Author | Message | ||
     Sayitaintso |
NPR affiliate, not NPR itself. Local control and selection of programs vs the national organization. FSU runs the station here in Tallahassee and picks and chooses what programs they run and is staffed by students quite a bit. I'd be willing to be they get at least some funding that comes directly from the CPB. Is that CPB funding that my local station gets funding of NPR or funding of the local WFSU station? I dont consider my local station "NPR", nor do I consider actions of NPR a reflection of my local station. I'm not sure how to slice the pie, but to say the funding of the offices in Washington is the same as funding the station(s) here in Tallahassee would be misleading if not outright incorrect. (Message edited by SayItAintSo on October 27, 2010) | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
If it's funded through the CPB, it's NPR. The CPB has no charter to fund WFSU's radio station. | ||
| Sayitaintso |
Thats why I mentioned how not knowing what the "grants" are is important.....receiving a grant from the CPB does not make the recipient "NPR". | ||
| Court |
>>>>Its hard to really make any conclusions from the information presented in the CPB budget You see . . . that, in and of itself, is not patently "dishonest". But you complicate things when your rallying cry includes things like "unprecedented transparency", "cleaning the swamp" and operating with the highest level of transparency in history. When folks with forensic accounting skills can't tell where the money comes from or ends up . . of when www.recovery.gov . . conceals where $162,000,000 of the stimulus funds went . . . well, the transparency meter has it's needle resting on the peg. Stupid people in broadcasting is a problem, dishonest ones a huge problem and playing with federal money (look at the deductions section of your next paycheck) borders on criminal. The funding of the arts, when it started, made sense. It no longer does. Their timing was also not in their favor. When Soros gave $1,800,000 and provided a "wish list" of what he wanted and they, the same day, dismiss their only "squeaky wheel of color" . . someone screwed up royally. Like opening the door of an airplane . . timing is everything. | ||
| Buellbozo |
So a guy violates the terms of his employment agreement, not once, but several times, gets fired, and all the Rupert Murdock media tools go batsh*t. Some here cite a "pro Palestinian" bias in reporting for example. I'm a decades long listener, and the only consistent bias I hear is pro-Israel. That's just my ears, nobody else's. I truly wish NPR could and would dump it's 2% CPB funding and go it alone. I'd increase my yearly pledge if they did. I'd also be pleased if they could display a little affirmative action (backbone) and hire a few wasps here and there. Now I've done it. I told Blake I'd stay off the Quick board. I just HAD to take a peek... Back to lurking on the Tuber board, and enjoying the crap outa my new X1. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
There was no policy breach or violation of employment agreement. It was an arbitrary termination of an employee who happened to hold the wrong political belief. One that conflicted with those of the NPR. Nina Totenberg = Right political belief Juan Williams = Wrong political belief Krauthammer said it best: | ||
| Sayitaintso |
Some here cite a "pro Palestinian" bias in reporting for example. I'm a decades long listener, and the only consistent bias I hear is pro-Israel. That's just my ears, nobody else's. I truly wish NPR could and would dump it's 2% CPB funding and go it alone. I'd increase my yearly pledge if they did. I'd also be pleased if they could display a little affirmative action (backbone) and hire a few wasps here and there. +1 | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
The "grants" are 2% of CPB's budget not 2% of NPR's budget. The "grants" are not all the funding that goes to NPR. | ||
| Court |
I suspect . . given the outspoken nature of the responses I've gotten from local NPR General Managers that I've contacted, that the support for this Vivian gal is seriously eroded. There seems to be, regardless of which side you fall on regarding Juan, a consensus that she had, and exercised, terribly poor judgment and belongs in the secretarial pool not as the top executive. If one of my project managers had spoken like that . . . they'd not been employed by the time the reporters arrived with questions. The problem is that this kind of behavior in organizations, like cancer in a body, is seldom found as a single cell. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
More than likely this CEO ninny woman is in that position not because of her abilities but because of her political allegiance. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Doesn't appear to be the bio of the person trusted to run a $166M a year budget corporation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivian_Schiller | ||
| Sayitaintso |
is in that position not because of her abilities but because of her political allegiance. Thats true regardless of whether its an elephant or a donkey in power. | ||
| Buellbozo |
God Almighty I miss Dan Schorr. He woulda quit over the mismanagement of this JW deal. And just to prove I'm not a total liberal dweeb, I think NPR's biggest problem is that it's been suborned by The Estrogen Network. They're sneaky, ya know. | ||
| Buellkowski |
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| Hootowl |
I don't get it. Juan was a Fox correspondent for many years. They didn't hire him because he expressed apprehension about terrorism. The cartoon above implies they hired him off the street. Juan is a flaming liberal. Why would the evil right wing Fox news corporation hire him? Perhaps they are more "fair and balanced" than some would like to believe. When MSNBC hires Rush or Hannity, I'll believe they're not biased. | ||
| Sifo |
Some here cite a "pro Palestinian" bias in reporting for example. I'm a decades long listener, and the only consistent bias I hear is pro-Israel. That's just my ears, nobody else's. If true, then why should that bias/opinion be allowed, but Juan gets fired? This is especially true because you are talking about bias on NPR and Juan made his statement on a totally different network. Beyond that I'm not sure that I agree with your premise, but then again I haven't listened to NPR for a few years now. | ||
| Buellbozo |
Just trying to make a point about (my) perceptions. I'm a union born and bred liberal, and I don't detect an overall liberal bias on NPR. That doesn't mean it isn't there, It just doesn't jump out at me. By the same example, to me, Fox just screams pro- Republican, whatever Rupert wants vitriol without concern for it's effect on the level of discourse in this country. THAT jumps out at me because of who I am and what my beliefs are. So it behooves me to try to "listen a mile in somebody else's ears" if I truly want to try to understand an opposing point of view. Jes' cuz it ain't mine, don't mean it's wrong. | ||
| Sifo |
Just curious... How often do you watch FOX News? | ||
| Buellbozo |
10-15 minutes/day. I used to watch CBN now and then too, so Pat could explain the news to me. Mostly, I watch for the cleavage, and to count how many '12 hopefuls are working there. And sometimes, when it's rainy, I can't ride, and I need a good scare. Mr. Murdock saw a market, and he produced a helluva product to fill it. I'm not trying to be snide, or denigrate anybodies beliefs or opinions. I think I better post some Buell pics on the tuber site. Ya'll keep up the good work. | ||
| Sifo |
At least you have some first hand info. Are you watching their actual news shows or the Opinion shows? If it's Hannity, then you are spot on. Other shows I would tend to disagree. Gretta is actually a liberal. | ||
| 86129squids |
Bozo:   | ||
| Buellbozo |
Yeah, Like they say down here... "Hold my beer and watch THIS!!  | ||
| Sayitaintso |
I dont want to revive this whole NPR thing, but also didn't want to start a new thread. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101105/ap_en_tv/us_tv _nbc_olbermann If only he had been caught giving to a Repub, it would have been perfect. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Olbermann has been reinstated at MSNBC after only two days. He's the only relatively "bright" spot in an otherwise dark sky. That's sad. GE is willing to run MSNBC at a loss in return for corporate handouts from Obama. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
YouCut Takes Aim At NPR Funding  "This week’s winning spending cut is a proposal developed by Rep. Doug Lamborn (R-CO) that would eliminate taxpayer funding for National Public Radio. When NPR executives made the decision to unfairly terminate Juan Williams and to then disparage him afterwards, the bias of their organization was exposed. Make no mistake, it is not the role of government to tell news organizations how to operate. What is avoidable, however, is providing taxpayer funds to news organizations that promote a partisan point of view. Eliminating taxpayer funding for NPR is precisely the kind of common sense cut that we have to begin making if we want to fundamentally alter the way business is conducted in Washington.” | ||
| Blake |
This will tend to make your head explode: The federally funded National Portrait Gallery, one of the museums of the Smithsonian Institution, is currently showing an exhibition that features images of an ant-covered Jesus, male genitals, naked brothers kissing, men in chains, Ellen DeGeneres grabbing her breasts, and a painting the Smithsonian itself describes in the show's catalog as "homoerotic." (Message edited by blake on November 30, 2010) | ||
| Sayitaintso |
Art is a strange thing, its too hard to say this is ok and thats not. Just because you or I dont like something or it offends us doesn't make it "not art". As for the Smithsonian....~$500 million from the feds??? I'd much rather have tax money go there than many of the other places it already does.....parties for diplomats, grants and handouts for foreign countries, oversized DOD, entitlements, and so on. To me the vast majority of what the Smithsonian deals with are "national treasures". If they go astray occasionally it should be delt with, but dont throw out the baby with the bath water. | ||
| Blake |
>>> Art is a strange thing, its too hard to say this is ok and thats not. Just because you or I dont like something or it offends us doesn't make it "not art". I merely don't wish to pay for it's exhibit. Art or not, I don't want to be forced to help pay for its exhibit. That goes for "art" that I like or approve of as well. The federal gov't has ZERO business funding the display of any "art". | ||
| Sayitaintso |
Its a question of where do you draw the line? Whats art and whats a memorial. All the statues and memorials around DC are not much more than art to me. They are significant b/c we have placed a meaning on them when in reality they are just sculptures or buildings. Or is it just paintings/photographs that are problematic? Is "American Gothic" ok or does it need to be sold off to a private collector? How about "Washington Crossing the Delaware"? Of course those are both very well known, but not more important than less known things. To me its the history of our country through something other than textbooks. Even the "art" that repulses me says something about our country that needs to be remembered and saved. I HATE "pop culture" but its who we are as a country right now, (I haven't seen it but) Ellen grabbing her boobs kinda sums up a very large portion of the American public in a way that words never could. I do hear what you are saying and agree to a point but this just isn't an area that I get worked up over. | ||
| Blake |
You are free to fund the display of whatever "art" you like. I hate that I am forced to help fund the display of any "art". Pretty easy to distinguish between piss-christ and a statue of Lincoln as far as historical monuments go. >>> Even the "art" that repulses me says something about our country that needs to be remembered and saved. Why, and why should I be forced to help pay for its exhibit? I hear statements like that all the time, but never an explanation of why I and others should be forced to pay for the exhibit of "art." Where in the constitution is congress allowed to fund the exhibit of questionable works of "art"? >>> To me its the history of our country through something other than textbooks. My idea of "history" is wildly different from what you are offering. Of course everything that happened is history. The excrement that I flushed down the toilet this morning is "history". If I took a picture of it, it should be saved for posterity? I get worked up over theft. I see much of what the fed gov't via congress spends as exactly that. |
