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Archive through November 03, 2010Blake30 11-03-10  11:20 am
         

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Buellkowski
Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Proposed Constitutional amendment:

"Congress shall make no law establishing a universal health care system for all United States citizens, nor shall it make laws that compel citizens to purchase health care insurance, nor shall it levy any tax for the purpose of paying for the health care expenses or health care insurance of any citizen."

Think you can get 2/3 of your state legislatures or 2/3 of your federal representatives behind that amendment? If so, do it. No judge in the land, no matter his or her stripe, will be able to rule contrary to it.

Of course it'll wipe out Medicare & Medicaid, but those beneficiaries are just "moochers & looters" anyway.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Congress shall make no law establishing a universal health care system for all United States citizens, nor shall it make laws that compel citizens to purchase health care insurance, nor shall it levy any tax for the purpose of paying for the health care expenses or health care insurance of any citizen."

BO care doesn't provide universal health care. Compelling citizens to purchase anything is out of the bounds of the constitution already. The Constitution does allow for levying taxes for things that are constitutional however.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>> Of course it'll wipe out Medicare & Medicaid, but those beneficiaries are just "moochers & looters" anyway.

Yes, they are. What debt to I owe someone who is sick that I should have to pay for their treatment?

What debt to others owe me that they should have to pay for my health care?

You moochers just want to force everyone to subscribe to your mooching mentality. I'd rather die than force others to pay for my health care. That's just me.

The mooching coward demands that his life be held above all else and above the interests of others to the point of forcing others at the point of a gun to hand over private property to care for the coward.

I'm not a moocher. I abhor moochers. I despise the looters who enable them even more; they are nothing but a bunch of power-hungry, self-serving criminals taking the property of others at the point of a gun to appease the moochers who are unwilling to stand on their own or suffer the consequences for failing to do so.

I prefer to be free to donate charitably to who I wish, to those I deem truly in need. Too many of those "in need" are just the dregs of society, the bottom 10%.

You knew them in school, they are no different in adulthood.

What debt do I or any freedom loving American owe the willful dregs?

ZERO.

Yet we are forced under threat of a gun and imprisonment to hand over our property so that a bunch of lying corrupt self-serving politicians can take and control vast fortunes of our property and dole it out to who they see fit, mostly to those who they think will help get them re-elected.

It truly is outrageous.

Harry (this war is lost) Reid is proof of the looter and moocher culture that is taking over our formerly free nation.
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Azxb9r
Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Which Article and Section of the Constitution contains the phrase "for the common good"?


I mis quoted... Article 1 section 8 says Congress can collect taxes for the common defence and the common welfare...not the common good.
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Buellkowski
Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd rather die than force others to pay for my health care. That's just me.

Does this mean you will not enroll in Medicare coverage when you turn 65?

I'd rather have you alive and on Medicare.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>> I mis quoted... Article 1 section 8 says Congress can collect taxes for the common defence and the common welfare...not the common good.


Wrong again. It says to "provide for the common defense and general welfare".
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>> Does this mean you will not enroll in Medicare coverage when you turn 65?

That's exactly what it means. I'd rather die with integrity than live in shame.

FYI: The collective's designated age of retirement for me is 67.
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