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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 01:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/1 25365-house-gop-will-add-npr-defunding-to-youcut-p rogram


It's an idea who's time has come.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 01:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mara Liasson and Nina Totenberg are next.
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86129squids
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 01:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"It's an idea who's time has come"

Jeremy, good buddy, I completely disagree.

First, Gingrich and co. tried this back in the 90's, didn't take.

LEAVING ASIDE THE POLITICAL (yes, is CAN be done), NPR, PBS, and the CPB do some absolutely great work.

How depressing to think of a media environment without them.

Just because the Juan Williams fracas has become a "flavor of the moment" in the left vs. right eternal argument, we should not underestimate the good that public broadcasting has done over the years.

I repeat, wrong answer.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 01:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not because of Juan, but it is temporal.

While you are at it, nix the NEA, Dept of Ed, and the Blue Ribbon Commission of Asparagus
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 01:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Defund Fox News first.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 02:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

supply and demand, dont watch it, dont support their sponsors

Problem with NPR is that they are using the IRS to bilk you for a portion of their budget.

Imagine the outrage if Fox was doing that ; )
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 02:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When Fox news takes $435,000,000 of tax payer money (the amount budgeted for NPR for 2010), I would advocate defunding Fox.

If NPR/PBS does such great things, they should have no problem being commercially viable without government funding.

Once Soros obtained the ability to rent his own news outlet on the cheap, NPR lost their place at the trough.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 02:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you don't like Fox, you can turn it off.

I don't listen to NPR but I still have to pay for it.
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 08:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hope npr execs aren't so mad at juan that they wish aids on him and his family.
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 09:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

NPR has made liberal hypocrisy a policy. Of course they need to be defunded, just as ACORN had to be defunded. When you take public funds you have a responsibility to uphold certain standards. Juan was outrageously singled out for having the gall to actually have honest discussion.

Just to make it even worse...
http://www.educationnews.org/political/media/10176 0.html

quote:

**NPR internal memo on Juan Williams firing after the jump
According to NPR President and CEO, Vivian Schiller, they didn’t just take a shot at Juan Williams as a proxy for Fox News for Soros’ million. During pledge drive week, they want progressives to know, we’re looking out for you by using taxpayer funding to fight the battles you want us to.


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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.phantasytour.com/bands/1/topics/2494076 /posts

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My comments about my feelings supposedly crossed some line. But let me tell you what you can say on National Public Radio without losing your job. Nina Totenberg wished that Senator Jesse Helms and his grandchildren would get AIDS and she's still working there. A so-called 'humorist' on NPR said the world would be a better place if 4-million Christians evaporated. Hilarious! And calling millions of members of the tea party movement a sexual pejorative - 'teabaggers' - won't get you in hot water either. So it seems some opinions are more equal than others at NPR. I used to think the left-wing was the home of tolerance, open-mindedness, and respect for all viewpoints, but now I've learned the truth the hard way.




I used to think the left-wing was the home of tolerance, open-mindedness, and respect for all viewpoints, but now I've learned the truth the hard way.
WOW! It's a cold harsh reality when you finally face liberalism. Good for Juan for finally seeing this. I just don't understand how so many are still blind to this. Liberals have been trying to shut down debate for decades.

FOX News? Where else do you see in the mainstream media where a liberal and a conservative can go head to head with their opinions on a given topic? If anything FOX should get public funding for making this happen.
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Fung
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Only 2% of there funding is from the gov. I think they will be just fine.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Odd that it was Fox News that immediately hired Juan Williams for his liberal viewpoint.

You don't see the reverse happening on NPR or MSNBC.
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 09:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Only 2% of there funding is from the gov. I think they will be just fine.

That's what they get directly, but it goes much deeper. They get money from the local NPR stations that get local government funding. The amount isn't really the issue though. When you take the first government dollar you are supposed to be non-partisan. They haven't been nonpartisan for decades though. This is just a symptom of their emboldened liberalism.

No doubt they will do just fine without public funds though. George Soros has deep pockets, and can purchase plenty of "journalists" that will be willing to tow the liberal agenda.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/21/billion aire-soros-pays-additional-npr-reporters/?utm_sour ce=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A +foxnews%2Fpolitics+


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Juan Williams may be gone from National Public Radio's line-up of commentators, but billionaire liberal icon George Soros has donated $1.8 million to hire 100 new reporters for 50 of its member stations.

The money will go to launch a project called Impact of Government, which Soros' Open Society Foundation says will "bring greater transparency and accountability to the workings of state capitals across the country."




(Message edited by SIFO on October 23, 2010)
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a feeling that Juan Williams will no longer blindly accept liberal ideas.


People forget that Dick Morris was once Clinton's closest advisor until they threw him under the bus.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Iamarchangel
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

NPR are the only people that explained the mortgage meltdown in an easy to understand manner.

That makes them worth it alone.

Just saying as an outside observer.
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Teeps
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 11:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is it just me that thinks, that on the majority of NPR programming, the speakers come off sounding condescending and judgmental?
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

NPR are the only people that explained the mortgage meltdown in an easy to understand manner.

Perhaps the only one you heard.

Is it just me that thinks, that on the majority of NPR programming, the speakers come off sounding condescending and judgmental?

They just sound liberal, but I think you just said that.
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Reindog
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Liberals,

If you are true to yourself, even if it is in the dead of night and no one is watching, then you have to admit that your philosophy is a dead end. Your world view is wrong and you must change. Just look at the overwhelming evidence of the intolerance of this philosophy and the subjugation of the individual to mediocrity and absence of accountability. Read your history. Socialism and Communism are dead ends. Always.

I did. I admit I was once a Liberal and it was a painful process to admit I was wrong. The path to prosperity and restoring greatness to America can only be achieved through Conservatism.
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Reindog
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 12:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

NPR must stand on its own. It is inappropriate for this Wonderful Government to use tax dollars to support a Völkischer Beobachter or a Pravda. I listen to NPR and happen to like NPR. But in the end, it is a Pravda with a smiley face. It is way past time for NPR to stand on its own. Let George Soros launch it into a private company. I have no problem with that.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I find it incredibly telling that the daily programming on NPR is overtly liberal and yet they sack one of there own (and are seeking the sacking of another) simply for appearing on Fox.

This had nothing to do with Juan William's viewpoint. It has everything to do with the fact that he strayed off the liberal plantation.

Oddly enough, it's conservatives who disagree with Williams' political viewpoint that are his staunchest defenders.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bullshiate

If NPR understood why the housing market crashed..... why are the monkeys that are supporting NPR back to the same tricks?

NOTHING in the new credit consumer protection bill stops the trends that led to the crash. IE DENYING credit to potential borrowers that dont pass the due diligence and were granted exception due to EEOC/Fair Credit profiling community development issues.
Home ownership isnt for everybody..... try and make it so, and you will have the fiasco that happened. Its the same for cars/big screen tvs/ etc; if you dont have the cash, dont have the credit, dont have the job.... why should we say that its ok because of some community group to loan you money?

The housing crisis aint over, the stall on forclosures, will impact the bloated inventory and drive down values of actual retail houses on the market as well.
PS pay attention to what they are doing with the 'government insured' reverse mortgages. Your parents are being bilked out of their house, and their estate will be sacked by the bank at first run when they pass. Why bother with the death tax, when the corp can seize the asset at fractional ownership rates?

Read the bill. its only 2600 pages. I am about a quarter of the way through it, it is ugly, anti market, ass covering, non financial freedom, market hating legislation.
Another Taxation without Representation
BECAUSE THEY DIDNT READ IT EITHER.

(previously licensed for stocks 6&63 with a BA in economics, and it is still a heavy read; think your legislator 'understands' the tome ?... not a hedge I would put)
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

City, he did say "easy to understand manner".

In short, it's Bush's fault!
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Reindog
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Look at the attacks that happen when a woman, a black person, or a member of any minority stands up and espouses Conservative ideas. They are branded as traitors or Uncle Toms, or apples, or oreos, or dimwitted.

The so-called feminists rally around their hypocritical allies. Look at NOW's response to Jerry Brown (or someone from Brown's camp) calling Meg Whitman a 'ho. Instead of denouncing this misogynistic behavior, NOW defended Brown by calling it a "teachable moment".

Juan William worked at NPR for ten distinguished years. NPR didn't have the decency to even phone him when he was fired and then the CEO of NPR went on television saying that Juan needed to see his psychiatrist. That is shameful behavior but expected from the intolerant Liberal mindset. Heck, if you are a Liberal, you are next if you step out of line. You've been warned by your master, George Soros.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And capitalism is bad.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If they were paying attention, they would have gotten out of the housing market in 2006 when the 6month put on Tyvek dropped below the seasonal downturn number.
There was no clearer indicator that the shiate was coming to a halt. The call orders for Tyvek were HALF of what they were the year before; the builders knew, or suspected.
I dumped Dupont in the spring of 2007 when the demand came back up for the upcoming season, but the 6th month call was still at winter levels, the market was not being responsive to seasonal demand; your first indication that something aint right.
I dumped Georgia Pacific at the same time.

One of the best moves I made. (well that and Roush for the H1N1 hysteria that lil 'pandemic' paid well)
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Carbonbigfoot
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 12:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LEAVING ASIDE THE POLITICAL (yes, is CAN be done), NPR, PBS, and the CPB do some absolutely great work.

If it can be done....

Why don't they?

R
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Reindog
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

NPR does do good things but they need to be self sufficient. Let George Soros take NPR private. Like him or not, Rupert Murdoch built the most watched (and best : )) news organization from scratch using private capital.
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I really was floored by Juan saying "I used to think the left-wing was the home of tolerance, open-mindedness, and respect for all viewpoints, but now I've learned the truth the hard way.". I wonder if this really is an epiphany for him that will change his world view. This has happened to a number of now evil conservatives that make great commentators. Folks like Dick Morris, and Michale Medved come to mind. I made it a point to watch O'Reilly last night feeling sure that Juan would be on. It was a great surprise to see him guest hosting in Bill's absence. I think liberals may have made the wrong enemy.
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