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Sifo
| Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 06:31 pm: |
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Looks like Chicago's United Center Park takes the prize!
quote:According to the info, anyone walking down Lake Street between Damen and Western has a 1 in 4 chance of being a victim of a crime. Those who choose to live there face the same odds with the chances of being robbed.
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/Chicago- most-Dangerous-Neighborhood-in-America-104278813.h tml?dr |
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Aesquire
| Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 07:07 pm: |
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Who says they chose to live there? |
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Badlionsfan
| Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 07:23 pm: |
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Well, last I heard the wall surrounding that area has been torn down, and people are free to come and go at their leisure. Minors would be the only exception as they can't dictate where their parents choose to live. |
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Sifo
| Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 07:24 pm: |
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Oddly people do choose to live in very undesirable areas. When I worked downtown I got to know someone very well who lived in a very bad area on the south side. I pretty much know how much he made and his wife had a good job too. They easily could have moved to a much better location. It was a constant struggle to keep his 2 boys out of gangs too. Terrible school system. I never had the balls to directly ask him why he choose to stay there, but it was a choice in his case. I spent 5 years going right through the area in the article by train. It was a very scary area 15 years ago when I was doing that. One day I realized that I had to go back to the office when I was already on the train. Not thinking I just got off at the next stop to catch the next inbound train. I soon came to the realization that I may have just made the worst decision of my life. I just did my best to stay out of sight on the train platform until the next train came. It seemed like an eternity before it finally came, and boy was I ever relieved once I got on board. I do understand what you are saying, but some do it by choice. |
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Pwnzor
| Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 08:44 pm: |
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I'll go ahead and get flamed for saying that pretty much everybody chooses where they live in this country. If you're "stuck" somewhere, then damn it, you're just not trying hard enough. It's all about priorities and sacrifice. You won't change my mind, so don't waste your time. |
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Court
| Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 08:45 pm: |
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Funny how . . . growing up in Kansas . . I'd heard all the horror stories about New York City. I know . . having listened to my wife and others who worked here during that time . . that they were not without merit. But . . in the nearly 15 years I've been here I have yet to set foot anywhere in the 5 Boros I'm not reasonably comfortable. Sure . . there are places you don't go at 11:30pm on Thursday night but that's true about any city . . .lord knows I'd never go near 13th and Parallel in Kansas City, KS at night. Topeka, the hamlet I moved from, has some really scary crime stats that make NYC look like Disneyland. |
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Cyclonedon
| Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 10:00 pm: |
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If you think the area around the United Center is bad now, you should have seen it when it was the old Chicago Stadium. It's a major improvement now. |
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Whatever
| Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 10:05 pm: |
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Blue Island... craptastic... the longest year I spent in Chicago was the six months in Blue Island... people kept stealing the iron covers off of our monitoring wells we put in so they could pay for their crack habit...![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/pimp.gif) |
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86129squids
| Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 10:08 pm: |
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RECON.
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Zenbiker
| Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 12:19 am: |
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2nd that! I use to live off of Grand, just south on Cicero back in the late 80s. What an F'in Sheethole. I would drive past North on Cicero to work and every other morning it seemed, a car was stolen and run through a store front to 'aid' in the looting process. Cars tipped over in the streets, etc. I did not have much back then (some clothes, food, no stereo or furniture) and moved out the day I came home from work and saw my door busted in and heard people inside. So, I left, didn't pay any more rent, just gone... I moved in with a friend (who lived on Lake and Harlem in Oak Park, not that far away, but Much nicer) and never looked back. |
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Sifo
| Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 10:05 am: |
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I moved in with a friend (who lived on Lake and Harlem in Oak Park, not that far away, but Much nicer) and never looked back. Without a doubt nicer, but far from actually being nice. A coworker of my wife has twin boys in in Oak Park. Two years ago one of them got carjacked at a gas station in Oak Park. As the carjacker was driving off he leaned out the window and popped off a couple of shots. He got hit just above his wrist and exited just below his elbow. Tore up ligaments, and tendons the whole way. Last winter his brother went into a local bar & grill to get some takeout for dinner. While waiting for his food the place got robbed, and in the process he got shot and killed. I have ridden my bicycle through Oak Park without fearing for my life though. |
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Xb1125r
| Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 10:08 am: |
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its called lazyness, most of this people don't wnat to have 2 or 3 jobs like a lot of imigrants do when they get to this country to get out of shit holes. but the perks of thus shitholes are the free rent. its Lazytown |
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Sifo
| Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 10:22 am: |
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I think fear of the unknown can play a big part too. It's easy to get comfortable with what you are used to, even when it's virtually a war zone. Moving means having to step out of that comfort zone. |
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Xb1125r
| Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 10:27 am: |
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democrats create this shit holes, they are the ones that encourage peopel to be lazy and to settle for crappy home by tricking them into free rent. its like the story of the 3 little piggies. piggy one was a left liberal piggy two was a democrat piggy three was the republican, who was working while piggy one and two were partying. the wolf almost got the lazy piggys until the republican ungillingly let them in,lol |
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Kyrocket
| Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 10:39 am: |
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I live in small town America. Pop. 6000 and we have crime but not much violent crime, petty theft, a few breaking and entering. I hear people often complain that we don't have anything to do here and how much it sucks. I have to agree with Pwnzor. I-64 goes east and west. Rt. 11 goes north and south. Get on one and get out, there'll be somebody to take your place, hopefully less of a complainer. |
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Xb1125r
| Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 10:46 am: |
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I think you forget that with the public education they get, most don't know north from south,lol |
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Drkside79
| Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 11:06 am: |
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The thing people should be aware of in Chicago is that the neighborhoods change VERY quickly. (Chicago was very segregated at one point)Hell across the street from the remains of Caprini Green are 400K Town homes. Trust me i have lived either in or around Chicago my whole life and their are quite a few neighborhoods I wouldn't go in on foot during the day let alone at night. I would recommend out of towners not hop off the "Ike" on ANY of the boulevards and If you want to see a sharp contrast of social environments drive around UIC for ten minutes and you can see it go from Nice to Sh*thole to college in about a mile and a half. |
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Gunut75
| Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 11:24 am: |
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I live out in nowhere WI, and everybody around me hunts. Best example of "neighborhood watch" you have ever seen. I live in a trailer park, and there is no crime. Even the kids are awesome! |
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Xb1125r
| Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 11:28 am: |
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dude who is going to rob a trailer, no offence |
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Reducati
| Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 11:35 am: |
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i worked that area for the past several years....typical garbage we pick up each night....
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B00stzx3
| Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 11:37 am: |
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GAll them guns for some weed?!?! lol. So gangsta, selling some dirt weed to suburban high schoolers. |
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Xb1125r
| Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 11:48 am: |
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This is why abortion should mandatory in these neighborhoods,lol I say give these guys a shot so they cant have kids till they are 40 at least or have a college degree |
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Gunut75
| Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 03:07 pm: |
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dude who is going to rob a trailer Especially a trailer park where most of the people drive nice cars, or actually have kids that ask before they cross your property. ![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/thwack.gif) |
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Aesquire
| Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 05:08 pm: |
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It's a pity the former owner of that Python will never get it back. Some trailer parks are sub-suburban nice places, and others....not so much. Just like any town. Past a certain size, there just are problems.....More murder from overcrowding, etc. .... but the difference is the society of people who live there. If no one wanted to be dependent on charity, or on the Dole, there would be far fewer people taking advantage of it. Not zero, since bad luck and illness happen. But/And The govt. welfare system promotes dependency to keep itself in business. Thats only natural. I'm sure that a small part of that is also racist ( old meaning, to hate on the basis of race ) on purpose, considering the planners of the welfare state, but today it's the natural bureaucratic inertia of growth that has plagued mankind since before the Pharaohs. |
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Badlionsfan
| Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 05:55 pm: |
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Sifo, if people historically weren't willing to leave their comfort zone, we wouldn't be here. |
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Sifo
| Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 06:22 pm: |
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Sifo, if people historically weren't willing to leave their comfort zone, we wouldn't be here. You are absolutely correct. Some people thrive on pushing past their comfort zone. This can be seen daily in many aspects of life. Still others are terrified of pushing past their comfort zone. Neither is a universal condition. |
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