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     Gregtonn |
EXCELLENT ARTICLE. NEVER EVER WOULD I HAVE THOUGHT THIS WOULD COME OUT OF ASPEN , http://www/.aspentimes .com/article/20100228/ASPENWEEKLY/100229854/ Barack Obama has awakened a sleeping nation Gary Hubbell, Aspen Times Weekly February 2010 Barack Obama is the best thing that has happened to America in the last 100 years. Truly, he is the savior of America 's future. Despite the fact that he has some of the lowest approval ratings among recent presidents, history will see Barack Obama as the source of America 's resurrection. Barack Obama has plunged the country into levels of debt that we could not have previously imagined; his efforts to nationalize health care have been met with fierce resistance nationwide; TARP bailouts and stimulus spending have shown little positive effect on the national economy; unemployment is unacceptably high and looks to remain that way for most of a decade; legacy entitlement programs have ballooned to unsustainable levels, and there is a seething anger in the populace. That's why Barack Obama is such a good thing for America . Here's why. Obama is the symbol of a creeping liberalism that has infected our society like a cancer for the last 100 years. Just as Hitler is the face of fascism, Obama will go down in history as the face of unchecked liberalism. The cancer metastasized to the point where it could no longer be ignored. Average Americans who have quietly gone about their lives, earning a paycheck, contributing to their favorite charities, going to high school football games on Friday night, spending their weekends at the beach or on hunting trips - they've gotten off the fence. They've woken up. There is a level of political activism in this country that we haven't seen since the American Revolution, and Barack Obama has been the catalyst that has sparked a restructuring of the American political and social consciousness. Think of the crap we've slowly learned to tolerate over the past 50 years as liberalism sought to re-structure the America that was the symbol of freedom and liberty to all the people of the world. Immigration laws were ignored on the basis of compassion. Welfare policies encouraged irresponsibility, the fracturing of families, and a cycle of generations of dependency. Debt was regarded as a tonic to lubricate the economy. Our children left school having been taught that they are exceptional and special, while great numbers of them cannot perform basic functions of mathematics and literacy. Legislators decided that people could not be trusted to defend their own homes, and stripped citizens of their rights to own firearms. Productive members of society have been penalized with a heavy burden of taxes in order to support legions of do-nothings who loll around, reveling in their addictions, obesity, indolence, ignorance and "disabilities." Criminals have been arrested and re-arrested, coddled and set free to pillage the citizenry yet again. Lawyers routinely extort fortunes from doctors, contractors and business people with dubious torts. We slowly learned to tolerate these outrages, shaking our heads in disbelief, and we went on with our lives. But Barack Obama has ripped the lid off a seething cauldron of dissatisfaction and unrest. A former Communist is given a paid government position in the White House as an advisor to the president. Auto companies are taken over by the government, and the auto workers' union - whose contracts are completely insupportable in any economic sense - is rewarded with a stake in the company. Government bails out Wall Street investment bankers and insurance companies, who pay their executives outrageous bonuses as thanks for the public support. Terrorists are read their Miranda rights and given free lawyers. And, despite overwhelming public disapproval, Barack Obama has pushed forward with a health care plan that would re-structure one-sixth of the American economy. Literally millions of Americans have had enough. They're organizing, they're studying the Constitution and the Federalist Papers, they're reading history and case law, they're showing up at rallies and meetings, and a slew of conservative candidates are throwing their hats into the ring. Is there a revolution brewing? Yes, in the sense that there is a keen awareness that our priorities and sensibilities must be radically re-structured. Will it be a violent revolution? No. It will be done through the interpretation of the original document that has guided us for 220 "FANTASTIC" years--- the Constitution. Just as the pendulum swung to embrace political correctness and liberalism, there will be a backlash, a complete repudiation of a hundred years of nonsense. A hundred years from now, history will perceive the year 2010 as the time when America got back on the right track. And for that, we can thank Barack Hussein Obama. Gary Hubbell is a hunter, rancher, and former hunting and fly-fishing guide.. Gary works as a Colorado ranch real estate broker. He can be reached through his website, aspenranchrealestate.com G | ||
| Swampy |
All we need now is for complete personal disarmament, everybody turn in all weapons and house to house searches to begin tomorrow | ||
| Court |
Lot of truth to that . . . . folks who never dreamed they'd get involved have and there is an entirely new grassroots effort underway. I can't speak for others but my wife and I are suddenly finding ourselves studying issues and races around the county and getting involved in supporting candidates we'd have otherwise never heard of. It's really true. We knew the window needed cleaned for sometime . . but we've all been fat, dumb and happy margin 18% on our 401K's and not paying much heed to what the government was doing. Barack threw a rock through the dirty window. It's heartening. I suspect the next 18 months . . .with 1 out of every 7 Americans living at or below the poverty level . . . are going to be significantly worse. Jobs are unlikely to show much positive news and "ordinary Americans" (like us) have gone into financial hibernation. If I don't need it for food or shelter right now . . . I don't buy it. I'm putting every spare nickel into cash, ConEd stock and retirement .. covering my own ass. If the TV breaks, I listen to radio. Same thing is happening in the business world. Companies are not about to hire with no clue as to what the tax or regulatory structure is in the coming months and years. Firms like Google are doing what we are doing and sitting on record amounts of cash. Interesting article. I expect they will continue to invest their time in blaming George Bush rather than any substantive solutions. Fine by me. . . the claws are in. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Bailout costs more than Marshall Plan, Louisiana Purchase, moonshot, S&L bailout, Korean War, New Deal, Iraq war, Vietnam war, and NASA's lifetime budget -- *combined*! | ||
| Moxnix |
In a world infected by media set on burying truth, it's always enjoyable to find the people who want to tell it. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
I never thought so many of my friends would be calling me to find out what the Communists did, and how it failed, and what is in store next. Hint, they already know where the legal guns are, and with the new financial regulations and 'consumer protection' they have your banked assets too. When the IRS starts to start trials against citizens for opting out of 'healthcare' premiums, you know we are on our way; and I am out of this country before the verdict passes (which will undoubtable be guilty) | ||
| Court |
Gads. . . . . after my recent surgery I am getting letters from an outfit, retained by my healthcare provider, telling me that they are attempting to contact me about counseling me in pursuit of a healthier lifestyle. They haven't been able to reach me in the afternoons and wrote to tell the that ride my mountain bike every afternoon from 3:30 until 5:00.  . . . . as they said in their letter . . . comma parte de suss benefices de salud, per factor, llame . . and gave me their phone numero. Sheeeeesh | ||
| Etennuly |
Well Court, they said that would be happening as a matter of American citizen 'life's end stage' money savings. Among his campaign promises were saving money by not paying for needed medical services. They were to be traded for physical training and psych training to tell us "you are old, you will die, you are not worth a $100,000 procedure. Meds.....you don't need no expensive life saving meds.....without them you will die.....that will allow for more younger imports to have welfare and free medical care. Hell yes we appreciated your service, now die so that you are not a burden. | ||
| Teeps |
Can't wait to see what 'sprink's comments will be...  | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Sprink wants what's right for America and what's good for the American worker. The question is whether Obama is providing either. | ||
| Sifo |
BO isn't focused on what's good for America, but he is focused on getting votes from the union workers. I don't understand why union workers seem to feel that they should get better pay/benefits than the equivalent non-union worker. It's almost like creating a cast system in the US. | ||
| Aesquire |
For a tiny bit of perspective. 1 trillion dollars. An inconceivable amount. stack of cash bigger than you can see. Seriously, stacked it's taller than the eye can focus on. The top bill would be invisible. Piled up, it's still impressive. http://www.pagetutor.com/trillion/index.html That's less than the cost of Obamacare. Lots less. ( best case, billions more, worst, 5 trillion++ over 10 years. ) About a quarter of the above bailouts. "porkulus" bill ( 3/4 to 1.5 trillion....depending on which numbers...not all spent, yet, they tell us. LOL ) The Iraqi Front, 2003-present. etc. etc. etc. Other comparisons are numerous. Look and ye shall find. Let me give you a different one. From 1941 when the Japanese bombed Pearl harbor, to 1945, with the surrender after a Division of JIA troops were immolated at Nagasaki, The U.S. spent a $trillion$. Sure, stuff was cheaper then. Pay, much less. But from a naval force of a few hundred combat ready planes, We built hundreds of thousands. Some context. The last Biplanes had been retired from active duty in 1941....and were still used in training and for utility planes. They had zip chance of fighting the Zero. All the Navy had to defend the country and attack the enemy were obsolete Dive bombers and torpedo planes, and 1 workable fighter, the F4F Wildcat. ( itself a monoplane rethinking of the replacement for the last generation of F3F Biplane.) New planes were in the works, but they wouldn't get there until 1943. We not only had to get the new planes ( luckily already asked for and under development ) but make the guns, ammo, and transport planes to get it half way around the planet. Plus the war ships, transport & cargo ships to actually build the Fleet anchorages, floating fleet supply dumps, millions of troops, arms, clothes, food, oil, gas, coal, tanks, etc.etc. And we had to pay for all that stuff we shipped in the cargo ships. And the machines to make the stuff. And the machines to make the machines. It was a total transformation into an industrial powerhouse society to make it happen at all. It was freaking close. ( and that doesn't count the Manhattan project and the other fronts. ) That's a trillion $. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
The question of Obama's success/failure as a president isn't a union/non-union question. The average American worker is more worried about their individual financial and employment situation than they are what back room deal has been cut between the Obama Administration and the leaders of the SEIU or AFL-CIO. What is interesting in the GM bailout is that in opinion polls, the UAW is on the wrong side of the American people: Just 21% Favor GM Bailout Plan, 67% Oppose Obama has now institutionalized the practice of picking winners and losers. There was always the rumor and innuendo but never this bold and execution. | ||
| Aesquire |
Sifo, the argument over Unions, while worth having is tangential to this thread... except in the matter of the Unions support for the leftist way. And that's really obvious, Unionism, Progressive, Commie, socialist, they are societal structures that grew up in parallel with the rise of marxist philosophies. The question to me is, is Hubbell correct in his article? Have the regular joe's woken up to reality? Will there be a swing away from doomed leftist ways? I'm doubtful. | ||
| Dalton_gang |
"Have the regular joe's woken up to reality? " I believe that a LOT of regular Joes will start their own businesses out of pure necessity and stray from all the "isms". | ||
| Blake |
First theory I've heard that does a good of explaining President Obama's behavior so far. http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0927/politics-so cialism-capitalism-private-enterprises-obama-busin ess-problem.html | ||
| Phelan |
I don't talk much in political threads, but I'll throw in my $.02. I think we as Americans have to take much closer attention to ALL elected govt, from local-up, and need to vote in more CONSERVATIVE candidates, not Rep/Dems. I think party lines have been worked so much that both sides are too liberal and molded into a distraction from what's really going on behind the curtain, and seats in all parts of govt BOUGHT. I think it may be to the point that the final Rep/Dem candidates for presidency are puppets that will deal very similar damage to America's core values while keeping us distracted with all the other issues that will mean nothing when they call Martial Law and wave the NWO flag. Call me a conspiracy theorist or whatever, but I don't think we have a lot of time left as "America". | ||
| Roadcouch98 |
Ron Paul - 2012 I like him. He Speaks English. Not 'Lawyerese'.  Your thoughts? | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
No, I don't like Ron Paul. I don't like his isolationist stance. I believe it dangerous and naive. His cut and run doctrine for Iraq and Afghanistan immediately lost my vote in 2008. | ||
| Macbuell |
TERM LIMITS. Please lord let us implement Term Limits for all politicians. The days of career politicians needs to end. | ||
| Nukeblue |
roadcouch i been lovin ron paul for a couple years now. read "the revolution" it's a great book that spells out his views nicely. i agree 100% on obama getting elected was a good thing to wake up the people. word is spreading like wild fire! i just hope the rest wake up & we get these policies turned around soon! | ||
| Gregtonn |
"TERM LIMITS. Please lord let us implement Term Limits for all politicians. Agreed. But how do you implement term limits without the support of those career politicians? Just wondering. G | ||
| Slaughter |
But how do you implement term limits without the support of those career politicians? One word: VOTE | ||
| Aeholton |
TERM LIMITS. Please lord let us implement Term Limits for all politicians. The days of career politicians needs to end. Add Supreme Court justices to this, also. A 10 year limit would be a nice start. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Term limits are completely unnecessary when a strict constructionist view of the constitution is in force. People stay in office because they gain power and personal enrichment. Power comes because of the ability to control the lives of others. That control comes when the intended mandate of the government is over stepped. Personal enrichment comes when those elected individuals are paid by those seeking to influence government policy. That government policy is in excess of the intended role of the government. If you return the Federal Government to its intended role, you remove the feeding trough and therefore remove the benefit of those like Franks, Dodd, Kerry, and others. The salary and government benefits alone aren't enough to draw someone from the private sector. | ||
| Gregtonn |
"One word: VOTE" Good idea in theory but from a practical standpoint it has its problems. There is a good example here in Arizona. John McCain is well over-due for replacement. I voted for his opponent in the primary but many people didn't because they felt it was better to have a "senior senator" to represent them. Now my vote options are to vote for McCain or another candidate who is even worse. Do you see the problem there? G | ||
| Tnxbrider |
Term limits, I think, are a great idea. Another great idea, again in my opinion, would be to force a politician to leave their current office in order to seek the next one. | ||
| Oisterska |
Almost stopped reading when the author compared Obama to Hitler. Wow, the blind leading the blind (here, that is). But I had to finish just to see what drivel some people take as credible reporting. "Just as Hitler is the face of fascism, Obama will go down in history as the face of unchecked liberalism" "Just as Hitler is the face of fascism, Ben and Jerry will go down in history as the face of delicious Ice Cream." "Just as Hitler is the face of fascism, Martha Stewart will go down in history as the face of homemaking." "Just as Hitler is the face of fascism, faces will go down in history as the face of faces." Does none of this sound absurd, incendiary, and plain mean? "Terrorists are read their Miranda rights and given free lawyers." Just like every person on the planet should be read their miranda rights and provided representation when charged with a crime. "A terrorist who represents himself has a fool for a lawyer." But I can understand where the idea of human rights might rub some people the wrong way... especially when those rights belong to someone else. | ||
| Gregtonn |
"But I had to finish just to see what drivel some people take as credible reporting." Unfortunately your post falls apart at that point. Hubbell is not a reporter just a citizen with an opinion. G | ||
| Oisterska |
Fair enough.  |
