| Author | Message | ||
     Gater |
Who has ever switched from a performance exhaust and back to stock and why? What performance exhaust did you have on your bike? | ||
| Spank |
I have Keda-Design's RT-3. I went back to stock because the bike ran like crap going slow with out a tune. I don't have the cash just yet to get one... (Message edited by spank on September 06, 2010) | ||
| Froggy |
I put the stock can back on my 1125R. All the aftermarket ones are too loud. | ||
| Gater |
I am putting on a special ops. I don't know how well I am going to like it so I am keeping my stock exhaust. My brother put a special ops on his ULY and it sounds great. He would not let me ride his bike but my wife let him in the garage while I was gone and he took off on my lightning. Got to love him any way. I sat on my front porch and timed him when he left and I heard him for 2 minutes. I wonder how long you can be in the saddle with the special ops before you head starts pounding and you ears ringing? | ||
| Ratbuell |
I took the drummer off my Uly and went back to stock. Drummer was a good pipe, quality build, not too "loud"...but a resonant frequency that just got up in my helmet and drove me crazy on longer rides. And, I never really noticed an increase in performance, just rumble. Not only do my ears not ring anymore, but I'd SWEAR the bike runs better now. It was a drummer with race ECM, then I put it back to stock muffler/stock ECM and ran it that way for six months. Ran great. But I can't leave well enough alone, so I now have an Erik Buell Racing ECM with the stock exhaust, and won't change a thing. Ever. The bike is perfect now. | ||
| Gater |
People have told me that the computer will reset its self if you run the bike over 300rpm at 70mph for 30 minutes. Now this sounds too good to be true. By doing this will the computer reset its self? | ||
| Reepicheep |
I did (my 9sx). Had an aftermarket race exhaust (one of the moderately loud "retrofit stock" cans) and ran it for about 4 months. Pulled it and the race ECM and sold them. Stock ran as well, wasn't rude to the neighbors, and didn't make my brain hurt. | ||
| Fahren |
When you change an exhaust,your bike's ECM ("computer") will re-learn the air flow and fueling changes that the change to the exhaust created. This happens in "closed loop" mode, which is riding at a fairly steady rpm at around 3000rpm +/- for at least 20-30 minutes. The bike will also be able to adjust to intake changes, but if you change both the intake and exhaust, the bike has a hard time re-adjusting to that much change, and then you need to use ECMSpy program to make changes to the fuel maps in the ECM. HTH, Gater. | ||
| Teeps |
I recently put the stock muffler back on the Uly. Because the (self) modded muffler developed a severe rattle. (so much for shade tree mods..., I'm old enough to know better.) At this time, don't know if I will cut the can open to fix it or not. Interestingly enough, the calibrated butt dyno, indicates that a smoother, more forceful acceleration is present. | ||
| Xl1200r |
I put the stock can back on my 1125R. All the aftermarket ones are too loud. I will likely go this route as well, though I'm going to modify my stock can first. | ||
| Teeps |
I suggest keeping one muffler stock; just in case... | ||
| Jayvee |
When I first bought my M2, used, it came with a packing-free V&H aluminum can. Instead of repacking it, I got a stock muffler, cheap, and put it on. Then I got a SuperTrapp, thinking I could tune the noise/power ratio. With all the disks, wow, I had to hang on to the handlebars. But commuting? Too LOUD. Took out the disks down to the minimum. Lost almost all the power gain over stock. Still too loud to commute. I weighed the stock muffler, vs. the SuperTrapp. Within a half-pound, according to my scale. Sold the SuperTrapp, back to stock, but then I found a tuber Drummer! Power gain almost back up the the full-disked SuperTrapp. Lower note but still too LOUD, sounds like a 427 ci old time V8. Really cool for a short distance. Back to stock. Next (and last) thing to try is a Buell Race Header & muffler. I got an extra stock muffler to try to adapt the stock muffler to the Race Header. Just waiting for the loose change to have the welding done on the muffler adapter. (Message edited by jayvee on September 06, 2010) | ||
| Gater |
I ended up today buying a special ops today I should have it on the bike the next weekend. I kept my original pipe. I ride with ear plugs if I don't like it I will sell it. I just got to get a new clamp where the exhaust and the header meet. Does anyone know the part number? Hopefully I can get the computer to re-flash its self. | ||
| Aesquire |
I went from the M2 stock can to a Wileyco and tuned the carb. Nice, took the torque drop right out, but then work and play had me coming home to a suburban 'hood midnightish. 1st gear was too racy sounding and 2nd was POP, POP, POP... at 30mph.. So back to the stock can. I run noise reducing earphones, and a Loud Suomy spec1-R helmet, so I can't actually tell the difference between stock and glasspack ( which is all a Wileyco really is ) at speeds over 65. Unless I jump on it. Or rev it under a bridge. ( who can resist? ) Now I'm living in farm country, and have more deer than neighbors. So the Wileyco's back. I also take it easy in the cluster of homes I'm in and the villages. Just courtesy. But now I can cruise in whenever with mild deceleration instead of lugging speed drone, and that makes a difference in perceived noise. It helps that the guy down the road plays with his 4 wheelers at 3am, to make me seem responsible in the eyes of the neighbors...  | ||
| Odie |
Gater- what's wrong with the old clamp? | ||
| Gater |
My brother used the old clamp when he put the special ops on the ULY and is getting the pop,pop,pop. So we were thinking that the old clamp is causing the pop,pop,pop. Maybe the clamp is worn and is not snug as it once was. He has quite a few miles on it he is pushing 20K or a little more on that clamp. | ||
| Elf |
Bike had a D&D on it when I got it. Between my PTSD neighbor and my thudding head, I traded it for a stocker and $ after about 2 months. Occasionally, I do miss it but it seemed to attract the WRONG attention (LEOs and my neighbor's ire)! | ||
| Strokizator |
I took the drummer off my Uly and went back to stock. Drummer was a good pipe, quality build, not too "loud"...but a resonant frequency that just got up in my helmet and drove me crazy on longer rides. And, I never really noticed an increase in performance, just rumble. I was positive I needed a 6th gear until I put the stocker back on. After that, I thought that 5 speeds were about all I needed. Long stretches with the Drummer were just exhausting (no pun intended). | ||
| Delta_one |
thinking about it for my D&D but I would prefer to have something with a little more noise than stock and a little more output. but the volume from the D&D is outrageous. | ||
| Ljm |
Went from the D & D that was on it when I bought the first one back to stock. It was TOO LOUD!!! and I didn't like the flat spot in the mid range. LJM | ||
| Guell |
im ditching my kooks system and going back to a vance and hines on my tuber, the kooks is just too loud for street use, and it really drones on, on longer rides. | ||
| Kenm123t |
looks like the Muffler is loved again. lol or could it be we are getting old ? | ||
| Bills3t |
Ran Vance and Hines on the s3t , went back to stock when I started commuting to work at 4:00 in the morning . Just trying to be a good neighbor . Did loose a few ponies but at the same time still fun to roll the throttle . | ||
| Jayvee |
In the old Fuell muffler testing, the stocker made more torque than half the aftermarket mufflers. Most of the aftermarket ones seem more for X1/S3 type power (revvier) than the M2. | ||
| Bbbob |
bought my '99 X1 used with a V&H & race ECM. Too loud...bought a used stock can & kept the race ECM...much better on the ears, feels like more torque in the mid-range... | ||
| Delta_one |
No way am I too old! I'm only 25! Well my 18yo sister calls me an old man but that doesn't count right? Lol At 25 I already have poor hearing from working on running jets in the Air Force. But after riding back from homecoming this summer I had a hard time hearing my son at night or carrying on a conversation in the car. I don't want to be using a hearing aid at 35 much less 30. Earplugs only go so far, it feels like the sound pressure pushes past any plug I have used so far. I'm not going to get custom molded ear plugs making me deaf to the road around me just to keep an overly loud pipe. | ||
| Brumbear |
I have the 1.5" quite core Barker it is loud but not super loud one reason I will not go back to the stock muffler is my bike runs 20 deg. cooler with the Barker on average. I did bust the quite core and man that thing got really loud if it would have stayed that loud it would have had to go. | ||
| Iman501 |
No way am I too old! I'm only 25! .........no comment..... | ||
| Delta_one |
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| Delta_one |
Iman, you got me I think you may be younger than my little sister, she just graduated HS god I FEEL old NOW |
