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Bikertrash05
Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Shellyo, but getting rehired isn't going to happen with this new contract.

The new contract says that everyone currently laid off with call-back rights, including me, will get $12k (probably around $6k after taxes) and be officially "terminated" from the company, which means if I wanted to work there again, I would have to start at the very bottom. I saw getting laid off and schooling paid for as an opportunity to get out of manufacturing.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The dealers are concerned about the same thing Buell owners are, part availability.

That's a sad statement about the state of the corporation when the dealers are concerned about lack of support.

Certainly even the HD big wigs understand that the Riders Edge program needs bikes and parts. I thought the Blasts were still available to dealers for Riders Edge without the Buell badge. Limited supply? Is there a plan? Seems like a total clvster fvck.
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Shellyo
Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bikertrash... that really blows!
Your attitude, however, is great!!! It's often hard to see positives when you're surrounded by negatives.
Good luck with school and I hope you find a career that suits your talents.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>People who make a lot of money didn't necessarily do it by exploiting the "little guy".

I agree.

What about a guy who was orphaned, lived with 12 different families, started a fruit stand and eventually grew it into a chain of grocery stores that he sold for $834,00,000.

Till the day he died he insisted on buying used cars, never flew first class and pretty much gave all he could to the Boy Scouts. . . . and never , in all his years, wagered more than $1.00 on a game of golf.

Quite the opposite of "exploiting" the little guy . . . he found "little guys" (like a couple grocers in Omaha) who were being forced out of business by the big chains, brought them into his organization and mentored them. . . . .and made more more folks quite well off.

Never really heard him called any bad names and no one seemed to ever think he needed "government intervention" to redistribute some of his own wealth.

The way he made it and created those tens of thousands of jobs was as the result of a regulatory and tax structure that encouraged investment and growth.

By the way . . . we couldn't find him the day we had his 87th birthday party at the first store . . . I walked out to find him carrying a ladies groceries to her car.

Character never dies.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am still unclear how taxing the rich creates prosperity at the bottom.

I know it feels good to have Uncle Sam stick it to the fat cat, but does anyone really expect any real benefit from higher taxes on the wealthy?
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am still unclear how taxing the rich creates prosperity at the bottom.

It narrows the gap between rich and poor. That's got to be a good thing right. Just keep taking it to it's final conclusion when the gap is finally eliminated. No more rich, no more poor, just blissful equality.
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Guell
Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

shouldnt that read

no more rich, all poor, we were always equal?
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No. Poor is a condition relative to rich. Once the rich are eliminated so are the poor. You just don't understand.
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Strokizator
Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 11:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You could confiscate all the wealth, redistribute it equally among the people and six months later you'd have rich and poor. Not all poor people are victims and not all rich people inherited it or stole it from someone else.

Dave Chapelle had a funny skit on the effects on black people once they were given millions in reparations. The results would be universal and not just limited to one race of people.
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Bikertrash05
Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2010 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Strokizator, you are exactly right. My ex-bro-inlaw spends money faster than he gets it and has zero credit, and I am the opposite.
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